STR/AGI/STA Shadowknight with Haste

[Cajetans]

Hello there dark fellows,i wonder whether there is any Shadowknight specced like this around? I thought about this spec and think it might be worth a try. The spec would be in KoS: 4/6/8 STR, 4/4/8 AGI, 4/4/8 STA. The benefits of this are clear: Haste ~60% (CoF or better Hate-Mod than 25 required + Bonus from Swiftaxe), 40% Chance to make a melee-attack an AE, 22% Meleecrit and of course Swiftaxt. Anyone who got experience with this build? Otherwise I'd like to discuss this one of course <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Greetings,Heinz

[Ciarr]

<p>it all looks great till you realize that only 20% of your DPS is from autoswings</p><p>so... </p><p>agi 448 adds 20% of 40% -> 8% extra overall damage per extra mob (assuming it's in front)sta 448 adds 40% (autoswing+melee CAs) of 22% crit chance which with the most common weapon type is 40% of  22% of 30% about 3% increase...  (note with a good weapon with high min-max range it can easilly raise to about 5%str 458 (you can't get 468 not enough points) gives you hmm 24%? haste (I can't remember the exact value) again 20% of 24% is about 5%... and not permamant (swift axe) another 5% but you can't keep it up all the time so lets say total is around 7% if you use it whenever it's up (all these forgetting the fact that you cast plenty of spells which are 2sec cast and unless you have insanly slow weapon it blocks swings)</p><p>comparing to int 448 which gives you 68% crit which makes 60% of your dps 60% of 68% of 30% over 12% dps increase and over 20% selfheal (lifetaps) increase</p><p>so.. in short agi/sta/str is a valid build, but you would be better of going sta/agi/int or str/agi/int if you want AE DPS sort of build</p>

[Cajetans]

Ah yeah didn't think of the initial focus-point you have to spend <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" />Actually your figures are confusing me a bit... For me its a plain calculation:You get ahold of a 2H, let's say Vu'kahrok from HoF. This one got 3s delay. I'd think of 50% Haste with decent gear (easier to calculate). So we're swinging with a speed of 1,5s. This means: 40% AE-Chance every Swing + ~30% Meleecrit. This should increase your auto-attack dps to more than 20% of your total damage.EDIT: I can hardly think of this build being viable for tanking SKs. For a raiding one who is assigned to the roles of DPS/Support and stuffed into a melee-grp it might work though.

[Hugsnkissums]

<p>I see what Ciarrai is saying...lemme see if I can paraphrase...</p><p>First off you have to look at where your damage is coming from before you can assume how much you are actually doing. Breaking up an Sk's damage goes like this :</p><p>20% is the result of auto swings</p><p>20% is from CA's</p><p>60% come from spell damage</p><p>Now bear with me on this, the agi line may give you an ability to let your auto swings affect muliple targets as long as you're facing them, but dumping all those AA's into a line for something that only affects 20% of your overall damage output doesn't make as much sense as say beefing up where most of your damage is coming from. Since most of our damage comes from spells, and plenty of our spells are not restricted by what we're facing, it would put those points to better use to pull them from the agi line and dump them into the intel line to get yoru spell damage a huge crit chance increase. </p><p> Now technically is the agi line a bad decision to put points into? Not really since we're a hybrid and we can use the points there, and with as easy as it is to respec your AA's now even if you don't like the set up you can change it relatively quickly. But as far as putting the points to good use, I think every SK will tell you dump points into your intel line first because the damage boost from that alone just makes too good use of those points to ignore. </p>

[Cajetans]

Valid points in your post.You would recommend dumping AGI and boosting INT instead? Sounds good as well, but still I find the 40% of AE-Chance very appealing <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I'm going to test this anyways since my 2nd SK just dinged 70, he needs something to do <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Ciarr]

<p>I would recomend int448 and work from there</p><p>since it seems that you are looking mostly for DPS, I can see 4 options</p><p>1. full str48842 /int 448 (sta 41)2. str/sta/int3. sta/agi/int4. str/agi/int</p><p>imho:1. by far the best raid DPS spec (large raid mobs tend to cripple effectiveness of trample due to positioning)3 & 4 should be a winner in any group settings where you can pull mobs to your liking (groups or groups of singles), probably 4 is better DPS-wise but I find it extremly difficult to give up hammer ground....2 is a solid dps build but I would rather go with full str if I wasn't going for tramplewith this being said... respecs are cheap why don't you just try str/agi/sta? it's a game... it's suppose to be fun</p>

[xandez]

i'd prolly start byINT: 4-4-8 STA: 4-4-8 mix and match the rest... ++Xan

[rabid.pooh]

<p>Spec'ing out of the int line tends to kill your DPS.  I did this when I was MT raids, I went AGI and STA full lines.  The problem I had with this spec is the DPS dropped and holding agro was harder.</p><p>So I respec'd to AGI/STA/INT 4/4/8.  This spec works pretty good, my autoattack damage will tend to be around 25% of my damage (facing groups a little more).  I'm usually grouped with an Illy, so I'm sitting with a good haste.</p><p>Once I get off my but and do some more unrest runs, I would like to get the cloak of unrest which gives us a 10% spell recast reduction, add in my ring of the 4 winds which gives a 5%, that would give me 15% reduction.  Once I have that cloak I'm going to try STR 4/4/8/6/2, int 4/4/5, and AGI 4/4/4.  This should give me a 25% spell recast bonus.  Only concern I have here is I tend to be grouped with my GF's Illy, so I may be overhasted (throw in her time compression at that would kick me to 35% <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />).  Swapping STA for AGI will increase your single target DPS</p><p> Anyways my 2bits.</p>