New to EQ and first Impression

[Jabaa]

<p>I just got EQ 2 last night . I have played a few diff MMO's, presently I am playing WOW but just wanted a break from it for a few. Anyway, I first created a human Conjuerer, and leveled to 4 , and decided i was particularly having much fun , so I tried A human Wizard. The animations for wizard were different but kinda coo, although after level 6 I got bored and rolled a Human Paladin. Wow , I must say paladin is a lot of fun , i feel invinsible , I am almost wondering is paladin a bit overpowered? I was taking on 4 mobs my level at same time. Anyway i got to level 7 with my paladin and for some reason , even though I think this class kicks so much [Removed for Content], I still found myself bored and logged out. </p><p>Ok What I am wondering , does it get any funner after you leave the noob area? And what are the features in the game that is gonna keep me to resub at the end of my 30 days? Although EQ2 and WOW are quite similar in terms of questing and leveling , I must say at this point wow looks and feels much smoother and the combat seems more exciting. Wow is also much more user friendly , quests are completed faster it seems with more xp and rewards but also sometimes tidious. I dont really know , at this point I doubt ill be in EQ 2 long , first impression is usually the lasting one . Prove me wrong please. </p>

[Von Blood]

Did you get any LoN cards? And can I have them?

[Bloodfa]

Newb Island, you're basically an uber-killing machine.  Level up and hit the world.  Get used to dying.  You can pull as much as you can handle, but get familiar with the conning system; you pull a heroic ^^^ the same level as you are without at least 2 others for backup, you gonna die.  Also, if the PvE aspect seems dull, try PvP.  Just don't cry too much when you get ganked.  Hit up the PvP section for tips, hints & suggestions.

[Demitri]

WoW caters to a younger audience.  No surprises here.

[Kenazeer]

<p>I don't think it is a stretch to say that you haven't even scratched the surface. You might be correct in assuming this is not the game for you, but if you can open your mind enough to stick with it for a while I think you might enjoy it.</p>

[Lee Hor]

<cite>Von Blood wrote:</cite><blockquote>Did you get any LoN cards? And can I have them?</blockquote>rofl

[Wyrmypops]

<p>The island experience is a smooth and comfortable intro. It's there to show off the various EQ2 aspects. Outside of it, it's all out there but you can choose what parts to dwell upon. </p><p>It does get different though. Classes feel more defined the further you progress. Around level 20 you've got most of the class based abilities that you'll see refreshed every 14 levels - though extra abilities are added to your arsenal occasionally. I've found I can only really judge a class and their place in the state of things after level 20. </p><p>Beyond the intro island, you'll get to experience your home city. Wherever you'll be, Qeynos, Freeport, Kelethin or Neriak, they've all got a different feel to them and different flavours of quests, architecture and NPC dialogue to them to reinforce that difference.</p><p>If you have the time, get a character to 20. By then you should be able to make a more informed decision on not just that class, but whether the game has got it going on. Exploring different zones as you progress would be a good idea. </p>

[Luier]

<cite>Jabaa wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I just got EQ 2 last night . I have played a few diff MMO's, presently I am playing WOW but just wanted a break from it for a few. Anyway, I first created a human Conjuerer, and leveled to 4 , and decided i was particularly having much fun , so I tried A human Wizard. The animations for wizard were different but kinda coo, although after level 6 I got bored and rolled a Human Paladin. Wow , I must say paladin is a lot of fun , i feel invinsible , I am almost wondering is paladin a bit overpowered? I was taking on 4 mobs my level at same time. Anyway i got to level 7 with my paladin and for some reason , even though I think this class kicks so much [I cannot control my vocabulary], I still found myself bored and logged out. </p><p>Ok What I am wondering , does it get any funner after you leave the noob area? And what are the features in the game that is gonna keep me to resub at the end of my 30 days? Although EQ2 and WOW are quite similar in terms of questing and leveling , I must say at this point wow looks and feels much smoother and the combat seems more exciting. Wow is also much more user friendly , quests are completed faster it seems with more xp and rewards but also sometimes tidious. I dont really know , at this point I doubt ill be in EQ 2 long , first impression is usually the lasting one . Prove me wrong please. </p></blockquote><p>in my opinion, eq2 and wow are nothing alike.  If you are going to compare them,  you will find that EQ2 is designed for adults and wow is designed for kids.  WoW is easy compared to EQ2 and if thats what you want thats fine, however the feeling of accomplishment is much better in eq2. In wow I always felt like someone was holding my hand and leading me through the world. In eq2 I feel like i'm in a world where if i dont learn some skills fast, I'm going to die all day long!</p><p>Some pointers: Update your skills as high as you can as soon as you get them. Don't attack ANYTHING that is a higher level than you. Take a group everywhere.</p>

[Norrsken]

<cite>Luier wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Jabaa wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I just got EQ 2 last night . I have played a few diff MMO's, presently I am playing WOW but just wanted a break from it for a few. Anyway, I first created a human Conjuerer, and leveled to 4 , and decided i was particularly having much fun , so I tried A human Wizard. The animations for wizard were different but kinda coo, although after level 6 I got bored and rolled a Human Paladin. Wow , I must say paladin is a lot of fun , i feel invinsible , I am almost wondering is paladin a bit overpowered? I was taking on 4 mobs my level at same time. Anyway i got to level 7 with my paladin and for some reason , even though I think this class kicks so much [I cannot control my vocabulary], I still found myself bored and logged out. </p><p>Ok What I am wondering , does it get any funner after you leave the noob area? And what are the features in the game that is gonna keep me to resub at the end of my 30 days? Although EQ2 and WOW are quite similar in terms of questing and leveling , I must say at this point wow looks and feels much smoother and the combat seems more exciting. Wow is also much more user friendly , quests are completed faster it seems with more xp and rewards but also sometimes tidious. I dont really know , at this point I doubt ill be in EQ 2 long , first impression is usually the lasting one . Prove me wrong please. </p></blockquote><p>in my opinion, eq2 and wow are nothing alike.  If you are going to compare them,  you will find that EQ2 is designed for adults and wow is designed for kids.  WoW is easy compared to EQ2 and if thats what you want thats fine, however the feeling of accomplishment is much better in eq2. In wow I always felt like someone was holding my hand and leading me through the world. In eq2 I feel like i'm in a world where if i dont learn some skills fast, I'm going to die all day long!</p><p>Some pointers: Update your skills as high as you can as soon as you get them. <b>Don't attack ANYTHING that is a higher level than you. Take a group everywhere.</b></p></blockquote>Huh?With good gear and spells, orangecon, and some redcon solomobs go down. with the same gear, you could with most classes solo bluecon heroics, if not, then at least greencon heroics.If you are using app1-4 spells, treasured gear and all that, which is pretty much expected in a new player, if you keep your treasured gear up to date, yellow solo mobs should be doable, and green heeroics doable with a decent duo, or trio. And with questing and all, there really sint much of a need for groups if you dont feel like it unless you are heading off to a level appropriate dungeon.

[Effie]

<p><i><span style="font-size: x-small;">Wow , I must say paladin is a lot of fun , i feel invinsible</span></i></p><p><i></i></p><p><span style="font-size: small;">Paladins get invis? <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></span></p>

[jarlaxle8]

<p>Huh? I mean, what you say about first impression, but come on. Do you even remember you're first imression of WoW, or was it all just rose-colored cause it was new? I don't have much WoW experience, but I tried it out at a friends house and leveled a mage to level 8 or some such. I went to the npc, got my quest, then blew up the mobs, rinse, repeat. I felt it was just that, not more, not less. On the newbie island in EQ2 it's similar, but it seems a bit more atmospheric then in WoW.</p><p>To be fair, you should at least level a bit higher to get a more full impression of the game. Same goes to me about WoW, but my comments up there is to show you that I have some doubt about WoW being all cool and much better then other games at the first few levels.</p><p> edit: about the 'take a group everywhere' comment a few posts up: What game are you playing? The EQ1 boards are over there. <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p>

[Luier]

<cite>Ulvhamne@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Luier wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Jabaa wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I just got EQ 2 last night . I have played a few diff MMO's, presently I am playing WOW but just wanted a break from it for a few. Anyway, I first created a human Conjuerer, and leveled to 4 , and decided i was particularly having much fun , so I tried A human Wizard. The animations for wizard were different but kinda coo, although after level 6 I got bored and rolled a Human Paladin. Wow , I must say paladin is a lot of fun , i feel invinsible , I am almost wondering is paladin a bit overpowered? I was taking on 4 mobs my level at same time. Anyway i got to level 7 with my paladin and for some reason , even though I think this class kicks so much [I cannot control my vocabulary], I still found myself bored and logged out. </p><p>Ok What I am wondering , does it get any funner after you leave the noob area? And what are the features in the game that is gonna keep me to resub at the end of my 30 days? Although EQ2 and WOW are quite similar in terms of questing and leveling , I must say at this point wow looks and feels much smoother and the combat seems more exciting. Wow is also much more user friendly , quests are completed faster it seems with more xp and rewards but also sometimes tidious. I dont really know , at this point I doubt ill be in EQ 2 long , first impression is usually the lasting one . Prove me wrong please. </p></blockquote><p>in my opinion, eq2 and wow are nothing alike.  If you are going to compare them,  you will find that EQ2 is designed for adults and wow is designed for kids.  WoW is easy compared to EQ2 and if thats what you want thats fine, however the feeling of accomplishment is much better in eq2. In wow I always felt like someone was holding my hand and leading me through the world. In eq2 I feel like i'm in a world where if i dont learn some skills fast, I'm going to die all day long!</p><p>Some pointers: Update your skills as high as you can as soon as you get them. <b>Don't attack ANYTHING that is a higher level than you. Take a group everywhere.</b></p></blockquote>Huh?With good gear and spells, orangecon, and some redcon solomobs go down. with the same gear, you could with most classes solo bluecon heroics, if not, then at least greencon heroics.If you are using app1-4 spells, treasured gear and all that, which is pretty much expected in a new player, if you keep your treasured gear up to date, yellow solo mobs should be doable, and green heeroics doable with a decent duo, or trio. And with questing and all, there really sint much of a need for groups if you dont feel like it unless you are heading off to a level appropriate dungeon.</blockquote>Pointer are just pointers, if you dont attack anything higher than you, you wont die and thus enjoy the game while still learning it.  Thats all i was saying, and grouping is the bread and butter of this game, sure you CAN solo, but WHY?

[Luier]

<cite>Ryilan@Runnyeye wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Huh? I mean, what you say about first impression, but come on. Do you even remember you're first imression of WoW, or was it all just rose-colored cause it was new? I don't have much WoW experience, but I tried it out at a friends house and leveled a mage to level 8 or some such. I went to the npc, got my quest, then blew up the mobs, rinse, repeat. I felt it was just that, not more, not less. On the newbie island in EQ2 it's similar, but it seems a bit more atmospheric then in WoW.</p><p>To be fair, you should at least level a bit higher to get a more full impression of the game. Same goes to me about WoW, but my comments up there is to show you that I have some doubt about WoW being all cool and much better then other games at the first few levels.</p></blockquote>WoW is VERY VERY easy, even from the start.  Its also simplified, meaning you get less skills. In wow you get 1 to 4 new skills every 2 levels. In eq2 you get 1 -3 skills each level. After playing wow, eq2 can be very intimidating for new players. However, once you learn it you will never be able to go back to wow as it seems like a kids game now.

[Norrsken]

<cite>Luier wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Ulvhamne@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Luier wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Jabaa wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I just got EQ 2 last night . I have played a few diff MMO's, presently I am playing WOW but just wanted a break from it for a few. Anyway, I first created a human Conjuerer, and leveled to 4 , and decided i was particularly having much fun , so I tried A human Wizard. The animations for wizard were different but kinda coo, although after level 6 I got bored and rolled a Human Paladin. Wow , I must say paladin is a lot of fun , i feel invinsible , I am almost wondering is paladin a bit overpowered? I was taking on 4 mobs my level at same time. Anyway i got to level 7 with my paladin and for some reason , even though I think this class kicks so much [I cannot control my vocabulary], I still found myself bored and logged out. </p><p>Ok What I am wondering , does it get any funner after you leave the noob area? And what are the features in the game that is gonna keep me to resub at the end of my 30 days? Although EQ2 and WOW are quite similar in terms of questing and leveling , I must say at this point wow looks and feels much smoother and the combat seems more exciting. Wow is also much more user friendly , quests are completed faster it seems with more xp and rewards but also sometimes tidious. I dont really know , at this point I doubt ill be in EQ 2 long , first impression is usually the lasting one . Prove me wrong please. </p></blockquote><p>in my opinion, eq2 and wow are nothing alike.  If you are going to compare them,  you will find that EQ2 is designed for adults and wow is designed for kids.  WoW is easy compared to EQ2 and if thats what you want thats fine, however the feeling of accomplishment is much better in eq2. In wow I always felt like someone was holding my hand and leading me through the world. In eq2 I feel like i'm in a world where if i dont learn some skills fast, I'm going to die all day long!</p><p>Some pointers: Update your skills as high as you can as soon as you get them. <b>Don't attack ANYTHING that is a higher level than you. Take a group everywhere.</b></p></blockquote>Huh?With good gear and spells, orangecon, and some redcon solomobs go down. with the same gear, you could with most classes solo bluecon heroics, if not, then at least greencon heroics.If you are using app1-4 spells, treasured gear and all that, which is pretty much expected in a new player, if you keep your treasured gear up to date, yellow solo mobs should be doable, and green heeroics doable with a decent duo, or trio. And with questing and all, there really sint much of a need for groups if you dont feel like it unless you are heading off to a level appropriate dungeon.</blockquote>Pointer are just pointers, if you dont attack anything higher than you, you wont die and thus enjoy the game while still learning it.  Thats all i was saying, and grouping is the bread and butter of this game, sure you CAN solo, but WHY?</blockquote>the reason for soloing would prolly be the same reason to be grouping. enjoy a game.

[Effie]

<p>Trying to judge any MMO after an hour of play is not going to give you a very accurate representation of the game.</p><p>Up to around level 10, you're essentially playing a tutorial. WOW is the similar in that it holds your hand every step of the way. Quests lead you from place to place and you get introduced to different features and aspects of the game. Where EQ2 is different from WOW is that once you get beyond level 10, there is not as much hand holding. There are multiple zones and dungeons where you can quest and level up.</p><p>Classes in EQ2 have different power curves. Most fighter classes are pretty powerful and easy to play at low levels. As they get higher in level, they tend to become very gear dependant but the playstyle doesn't really change a whole lot.</p><p>Scout classes are also quite powerful at low levels but they are kinda gimped in their teens and 20s... not until they get some of their more powerful attacks do they start showing their true potential</p><p>Casters are a mixed bag. Pet casters are pretty uber from level 1 and have a very linear power curve. Wizards (in my opinion) don't show their true potential until level 50, at which point they are insanely good. Enchanters (especially coercers) take a lot of finesse to play well.. a well played enchanter is very powerful while a poorly played enchanter is [Removed for Content].</p><p>Because EQ2 has so much content (compared to WOW), it offers a ton of replayability. Leveling up alts can be a different experience every time. There's a ton of solo content and even more group content. In WOW, leveling up an alt is excruciatingly dull after the 3rd time. </p><p>The main reason I enjoy EQ2 more than WOW is the overall maturity of the playerbase. </p>

[Siclone]

WoW is a kids game.  Its instant gratification and shallow compared to EQ2.but there are plenty of people that prefer that game play.   Everything easy, and quick and fun killing.EQ2 is much more complexed, there are tons of different game play, from soloing to hard core raiding.just depends what your looking for

[tass]

Well I would guess eq2 is different from wow in that it is slightly different. Actually with the changes of making the game more solo friendly id venture to say its pretty close now, except the only major difference I can see is that while shooting like a rocket to 50 is easy enough, it slows down a bit where as wow you can pretty much clear those other 20 levels with the same speed.Other than that, game play seems sort of the same. Just fewer people.

[Novusod]

The game really doesn't get started untill the mid 20s when players start running the dungeons. I remember the first time I got into a group killing giants in the Thundering Steps because it changed the game for me. I gained two levels in less than an hour. The very next day I got a group in the ruins of Varsoon where I looted my first piece of really nice gear. Then I was hooked for life.

[nia]

       I have played WoW for over a year and EQ2 for thje last 4 months....If all you saw of EQ2 was the noob isle then you would get an impression that the game is easy......Trust me it gets much harder.....ALso Paladins are far from overpowered....You have t oplay one much further than the first few levels......At about level 12 you'll be screaming for a group to help you kill faster......The quest system in EQ2 has alot more depth and variety than WoW's questing system...... Also I know several players that came to EQ2 whose PCs had problems running the graphics and if that is a problem then I can understand..... You have to understand that WoW changed the way new players view MMOs.....THey used to be much harder back around 2000...You had to work hard to gain levels and if you died you actually lost experience and even a level at times.....WoW and EQ2 are MMO lite.....Theres alot of hand holding in both......IF you dont like EQ2 at this point I doubt you will....YOu have probably grown comfortable wit hWoW's easy gameplay and you may not be able to handle change and a new challenge..... WoW's major problem is that it does not condition players to move on to new things because it was too easy.....It gives players things too easily and you come to expect that wherever you go.....

[Gromph]

<p>Since you have been playing before you should reasonably know if you prefer a leveling game or a combat game. There is a big difference.</p><p>EQ2 PvE is basically a leveling game and the game ends upon reaching max level and updated spells and gear. Here, improvements are the main driver.</p><p>People that play CS and to a large extent Wow are playing combat games. Winning in combat is the driver and improvements are only means to achieve the former. This is why Wow has that many players. People can go from CS to Wow, but they don't go from CS to EQ2. It is also explains why so many trade and exchange Wow-toons, and why there is such large interest in powerleveling in Wow. Most players are not interested in the leveling part.</p><p>In conclusion, if you prefer the leveling game EQ2 PvE is a good choice. Otherwise, EQ2 PvP might be a possibility or another game.</p>

[Rebor]

It comes down to this: Every new situations be it friends/environment, you need time to understand them. After a while you get to either love,hate it or be neutral. So time is the key. Comments from players are just for reference, we don't know what you like for yourself, but we  or at least I know what I like in a game.WOW vs EQ2? Personally, no fight unless you are into cute(I will not say immature) games. Too many nonsense kids in WOW, maybe such kids just like the hack and slash games and won't be attract by the complexity of EQ2. Well some adults like simplicity too, so no offense, its really up to your liking.Server is important! Roll on a populated one. That's what make MMOs a hit, the interactions with others.

[LordPazuzu]

<p>I like to think that EQ2 is a game that focuses more on substance than flash, though it has a fair amount of that as well.</p><p>My suggestion to you, start something other than a human and begin in either Kelethin or Neriak.  You will like it ALOT more.  They do not start on the newbie island and the zones are alot more visually interesting than the isle.  Especially Neriak.  They are newer areas and the whole experience tends to run alot more smoothly for new players than the isle.</p><p>Personally, I hate that [Removed for Content] newbie island...  it's basically a tutorial on game systems and not indicitive of actual gameplay in the real world.</p>

[Leatherneck]

<cite>Jabaa wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I just got EQ 2 last night . I have played a few diff MMO's, presently I am playing WOW but just wanted a break from it for a few. Anyway, I first created a human Conjuerer, and leveled to 4 , and decided i was particularly having much fun , so I tried A human Wizard. The animations for wizard were different but kinda coo, although after level 6 I got bored and rolled a Human Paladin. Wow , I must say paladin is a lot of fun , i feel invinsible , I am almost wondering is paladin a bit overpowered? I was taking on 4 mobs my level at same time. Anyway i got to level 7 with my paladin and for some reason , even though I think this class kicks so much [I cannot control my vocabulary], I still found myself bored and logged out. </p><p>Ok What I am wondering , does it get any funner after you leave the noob area? And what are the features in the game that is gonna keep me to resub at the end of my 30 days? Although EQ2 and WOW are quite similar in terms of questing and leveling , I must say at this point wow looks and feels much smoother and the combat seems more exciting. Wow is also much more user friendly , quests are completed faster it seems with more xp and rewards but also sometimes tidious. I dont really know , at this point I doubt ill be in EQ 2 long , first impression is usually the lasting one . <b>Prove me wrong please</b>. </p></blockquote><p>Why?</p><p>If newbie island is boring you, I don't know that you'll have much fun in this game, honestly.  It moves slower, it's less instant gratification.  On the other hand, it's a far deeper game.  There's still a ton of places my ranger hasn't gotten exploration exp from and he's 62.</p><p>EQ2 does less hand-holding. WoW, from the brief time I played, leads you from point to point, newb area to instance to instance to instance to raid to next tier raid and on.  EQ2 puts more of the onus on the player to decide how they are going to spend their time.  There's tons of directions to go in this game rather than being led by the nose from point to point.</p>

[Danrok423]

<p>  I find it amusing that so many post declare WoW as <easy mode,designed for kids>,now I do agree that there are many more encounters with less than desirable group members in WoW..but there is 5 times the people so that is bound to happen.My point is..you dont need to be a rocket scientist to play EQ2..it is just as simple.Pick up a quest,kill x mobs,discover x area,return for reward.Both games have there high points and low points.I was all about EQ1,was ready for a new game when WoW came out so I went there..played for 3 years and now I find myself playing EQ2 and enjoying it very much.When in WoW very rarely was EQ ever discussed or even mentioned (at least on my server),now being in EQ2 I see constant bashing of WoW both in game and forum wise..so I say to all the EQ gamers out there who are constantly bashing other mmorpg's.</p><p>1.Your game is not that difficult,get over yourself.</p><p>2.A better game will come along (and no im not saying it is WoW),so be prepared to accept it.</p><p>3.You can have an opinion without insulting other games.</p><p>                To the OP: I had a difficult time adjusting to the differences in the two games,even though I played EQ2 a bit at release, it has changed quite a bit.The time it will take is worth it,EQ2 is a wonderful game and I find myself looking forward to logging on to go see that next quest giver or heading to that new area I could never go to before.I find myself wanting to get some levels for the snazzy new gear I saw on the broker I cant quite fit into yet.My advice would be stick with it..if you start grinding out quests the levels will come quickly and you will be rewarded with some fantastic zones and amazing content.As stated in an earlier post,around level 20 you will start to get a better feel for what your player is all about and what the game has to offer.It would be a mistake to give up after just doing the starter areas..these are more like introductions to the game then anything.</p>

[Naubeta]

Leave the newbie island and take a look around Freeport or Qeynos.If you don't love the game then, you probably never will.

[Norrsken]

<cite>Naubitzi@Crushbone wrote:</cite><blockquote>Leave the newbie island and take a look around Freeport or Qeynos.If you don't love the game then, you probably never will. </blockquote>or poke about in neriak. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[wepps]

<cite>Jabaa wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Prove me wrong please. </p></blockquote>Prove yourself wrong.We can't do <i>everything</i> for you.I too played WoW. I'm here to say, EQII is superior in many ways. Your assessment of combat differences between the two is incorrect. WoW is the same 5 buttons at level 70 as it is at 30. Here you have to think, and there is much much more to combat than just mashing the same buttons over and over. That's why I got bored with WoW and left.

[Fatkiddown]

I play both, started with eq2 at release and have 2 70s currently and played 2 months of wow last summer and again this summer starting in march till now and have a lvl 63 there.    You will find as you get to the higher levels past 30 that wow is much more of a grind to level.  In eq2 you run a dungeon or two every night and you can get 1-3 levels depending on the group.    And I agree until you get past level 20 in eq2 you really don't get the full feeling of your class and what it can do and what makes it unique.<div></div><div>You will find that eq2 it takes ALOT longer to get bored if even once you reach 70 than it does in wow, not to mention not having to get all these crazy "Keys" like you do in wow to go anywhere good.</div><div></div><div>Also play a good high population server like Lucan D'Lere, AB or crushbone and you will have no problems finding groups at all levels.</div><div></div><div>Or you can do pvp if you really like pvp but it is more brutal than wow pvp </div>