LON - Booster Drop's

[Strums]

<p>I know that LON goes live today...but unfortunately I am stuck at work and unable to test out the drop rate of LON boosters.  Dose anyone know yet what mobs will drop the boosters?  Will it be raid mobs?  Named mobs?  Solo con mobs?</p>

[Almeric_CoS]

<p>To prevent camping, any and every mob will be able to drop boosters.  They exist on a separate loot table that won't affect any other item drops, and will drop as chest loot from green-or-higher mobs.  The only real question is how rare they'll turn out to be.</p>

[Azigon]

They should drop from any old mob.What I wonder is, will they drop immediately after launch, or will the servers have to be restarted before they drop - in the form of a hotfix to put them to drop.Anyone happen to know, before I go slaughtering?

[KBern]

Chest drops or body?  I am hoping chest to prevent the genocide of gray mobs.

[Bramwe]

<cite>Almeric@Permafrost wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>To prevent camping, any and every mob will be able to drop boosters.  They exist on a separate loot table that won't affect any other item drops, and will drop as chest loot from green-or-higher mobs.  The only real question is how rare they'll turn out to be.</p></blockquote>I hope this is true...there really isn't any way to know for sure though whether or not these things will drop instead of loot or along side with it.  They tell us one thing and I sure hope it is true and not another reason to dislike LoN.

[Norrsken]

<cite>Saurakk@Guk wrote:</cite><blockquote>Chest drops or body?  I am hoping chest to prevent the genocide of gray mobs.</blockquote>green and up only.

[Coniaric]

<cite>Bramwell@Guk wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Almeric@Permafrost wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>To prevent camping, any and every mob will be able to drop boosters.  They exist on a separate loot table that won't affect any other item drops, and will drop as chest loot from green-or-higher mobs.  The only real question is how rare they'll turn out to be.</p></blockquote>I hope this is true...there really isn't any way to know for sure though whether or not these things will drop instead of loot or along side with it.  They tell us one thing and I sure hope it is true and not another reason to dislike LoN.</blockquote><p>It may be: Pack, or Loot and Pack, or Loot.</p><p>At least, that's the way it's been phrased. I don't know if first one is possible, but next two possiblities should be viable.</p>

[Strums]

Anyone seen any of these drop yet?  Was it a chest drop?  Body drop?  other loot in chest?

[Malchore]

<p>This is from the LoN FAQ:</p><p><b><i>What are the guidelines for trading unneeded loot cards, cards and packs? </i></b></p><ul><li>You can get packs and promo cards from global drops in both <i>EverQuest </i>and <i>EverQuest II </i></li><li>You can trade any individual <i>Legend of Norrath </i>card or pack in the LON client. </li><li>You can trade any <b>UNREDEEMED </b>Loot card in the LON client. </li><li>You can trade any <b>UNREDEEMED </b><i>Legends of Norrath </i>item (pack/promo) that you get as a drop on the broker equivalent in EQII/EQ. </li><li>You <b>CANNOT </b>trade any redeemed or /claimed loot item</li></ul><p>Doesn't mention anything about drop rates.  SOE is potentially losing $3 every time a booster drops as loot.  So I imagine they will make it a rare drop.</p>

[Strums]

<cite>Malchore wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>This is from the LoN FAQ:</p><p><b><i>What are the guidelines for trading unneeded loot cards, cards and packs? </i></b></p><ul><li>You can get packs and promo cards from global drops in both <i>EverQuest </i>and <i>EverQuest II </i></li><li>You can trade any individual <i>Legend of Norrath </i>card or pack in the LON client. </li><li>You can trade any <b>UNREDEEMED </b>Loot card in the LON client. </li><li>You can trade any <b>UNREDEEMED </b><i>Legends of Norrath </i>item (pack/promo) that you get as a drop on the broker equivalent in EQII/EQ. </li><li>You <b>CANNOT </b>trade any redeemed or /claimed loot item</li></ul><p>Doesn't mention anything about drop rates.  SOE is potentially losing $3 every time a booster drops as loot.  So I imagine they will make it a rare drop.</p></blockquote><p>Well with that said...I guess were just going to have to wait untill people start seeing these drop to see how rare they will be.  </p><p>The thing that bothers me about this, is that Smed said that players will not have to pay a dime for the game...well thats true, however, if you want to have a half way decent deck, your going to need cards from boosters.  And again, he said they wont cost a dime, they will drop in game.  Well that is fair and sounds good...but if these things are droping how im expecting them too..."<i>one booster per billion mobs killed"...</i>well, you get the idea.</p><p>Im just really curious about the drop rate...</p>

[KBern]

I would be curious if the dropped "boosters" are going to be a pack of 15, or actually just a one card "booster".

[Lilj]

And the last I heard from the beta, we have to buy something from the card store to unlock the ability to trade (and other features of the card game).People were still speculating if perhaps claiming a looted pack could count as a 'purchase', I guess we will have to see <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[ZeroRavesOn]

<cite>Malchore wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>This is from the LoN FAQ:</p><p><b><i>What are the guidelines for trading unneeded loot cards, cards and packs? </i></b></p><ul><li>You can get packs and promo cards from global drops in both <i>EverQuest </i>and <i>EverQuest II </i></li><li>You can trade any individual <i>Legend of Norrath </i>card or pack in the LON client. </li><li>You can trade any <b>UNREDEEMED </b>Loot card in the LON client. </li><li>You can trade any <b>UNREDEEMED </b><i>Legends of Norrath </i>item (pack/promo) that you get as a drop on the broker equivalent in EQII/EQ. </li><li>You <b>CANNOT </b>trade any redeemed or /claimed loot item</li></ul><p>Doesn't mention anything about drop rates.  SOE is potentially losing $3 every time a booster drops as loot.  So I imagine they will make it a rare drop.</p></blockquote>They're only losing $3 when someone who would have bought a pack, chooses not to because that person got one from a mob drop.  I bet the people who are spending money are mainly the hardcore tcg crowd, rather than the casual player who is playing eq2 and for whom lon is just a nice bonus.I would bet money they are looking at the casual players who get mob drops as providing a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_effect" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">network effect</a> for the hardercore tcg crowd, making their own purchases more valuable since there will be far more people to play with.EDIT: added a wikipedia link

[Snowdonia]

<cite>Liljna wrote:</cite><blockquote>And the last I heard from the beta, we have to buy something from the card store to unlock the ability to trade (and other features of the card game).</blockquote>Yup, that's dead on. I was just on the LoN boards about it because I couldn't start a guild and it said I had to register (but not how I go about doing that).You "register" by buying at least 1 booster from their store. "Registering" allows you to access trading, create guilds, and play in their tourneys and stuff.$3.99 US isn't a whole lot, but man was a sneaky trick! lol

[Calthine]

<cite>Bramwell@Guk wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Almeric@Permafrost wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>To prevent camping, any and every mob will be able to drop boosters.  They exist on a separate loot table that won't affect any other item drops, and will drop as chest loot from green-or-higher mobs.  The only real question is how rare they'll turn out to be.</p></blockquote>I hope this is true...there really isn't any way to know for sure though whether or not these things will drop instead of loot or along side with it.  They tell us one thing and I sure hope it is true and not another reason to dislike LoN.</blockquote>Well, it was emphasized many times at Fan Faire and on forums by many Official-Type-Persons.

[Lilj]

<cite>Azigon@Unrest wrote:</cite><blockquote>They should drop from any old mob.What I wonder is, will they drop immediately after launch, or will the servers have to be restarted before they drop - in the form of a hotfix to put them to drop.Anyone happen to know, before I go slaughtering?</blockquote>I would really like to know too <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Especially because I'm on a Euro server and sometimes we get stuff a bit later. Anyone has any information on this?

[ke'la]

<cite>Saurakk@Guk wrote:</cite><blockquote>Chest drops or body?  I am hoping chest to prevent the genocide of gray mobs.</blockquote>Gallanite confermend at Fan Fair, Global Loot(seperate table), chest dropped. So no addtional grey mob Genocide

[Xelphneigh]

You could ask the guy who has 2 boosters on Naggy for 24p each how rare they are, LOL..I mean honestly, I figured they might be a bit of gold but 24p???  How much could I buy farmed plat for to pay for those 2 packs vs just spending the $2.99 in the store for them?  If they rare enough to dictate 24p, over time (i understand this guy is just trying to be advantageous), then SOE did well and will make more in retail pack purchases from their store than plat sellers on the plat it takes to buy them ingame.24p, lol...

[Norrsken]

<cite>Xelphneigh@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote>You could ask the guy who has 2 boosters on Naggy for 24p each how rare they are, LOL..I mean honestly, I figured they might be a bit of gold but 24p???  How much could I buy farmed plat for to pay for those 2 packs vs just spending the $2.99 in the store for them?  If they rare enough to dictate 24p, over time (i understand this guy is just trying to be advantageous), then SOE did well and will make more in retail pack purchases from their store than plat sellers on the plat it takes to buy them ingame.24p, lol...</blockquote>just wait a fwe days till when they've dropped to people all around. Prices will fall drastically. the first fwe items are always stupidly overpriced when something new is brought ingame.

[Lornick]

I think the broker costs will average out to 5 - 10 plat a booster pack unless they are *extremely* rare drops.  That's just what I figure the average player will be willing to spend.  A big question is how many people will be willing to sell them at all if they are into the card game vs how many people just think of the booster packs as cash drops?  Personally, I would be willing to sell the booster packs initially at an inflated price and then go into buyer/claim mode when they get cheaper.  If I can sell one booster pack for 20plat this week and turn around and buy 3 booster packs for the same amount in a couple weeks I can live with that =p

[Xelphneigh]

<cite>Ulvhamne@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Xelphneigh@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote>You could ask the guy who has 2 boosters on Naggy for 24p each how rare they are, LOL..I mean honestly, I figured they might be a bit of gold but 24p???  How much could I buy farmed plat for to pay for those 2 packs vs just spending the $2.99 in the store for them?  If they rare enough to dictate 24p, over time (i understand this guy is just trying to be advantageous), then SOE did well and will make more in retail pack purchases from their store than plat sellers on the plat it takes to buy them ingame.24p, lol...</blockquote>just wait a fwe days till when they've dropped to people all around. Prices will fall drastically. the first fwe items are always stupidly overpriced when something new is brought ingame.</blockquote>Oh totally agree.  Can he be arrested for price gouging? <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Sylaz]

There's a problem with pricing them high though.Unless I'm mistaken, once you open a pack the cards can only be traded for other cards, thus making them worthless for anyone not interested in the game.Therefore, you can't price the packs high, because you don't know how rare the cards inside are. (once there's a decent flow of packs) I'm thinking that most people won't be willing to pay too much for a gamble, when a little farming gets it for free. If your whole thing is going for profit, the only way to figure out the exact worth of the pack is to open it, and then you can't sell it.

[Gnevil]

<p>24p wow thats a great deal, just last week we had a flame war on Butcherblock for selling the stein card for 70p ... by the way confirmed he sold one at that price not sure if he ever got the other sold.</p><p>Just fyi .. I blame not the player for this he is just greedy and getting what he can when he can... </p><p>I BLAME THE DEVS for allowing these to be traded during the beta to peeps that weren't in the game...</p>

[freeportalt]

Of course this distrabution method,has the plat seller farm teams ( the wizzy furry dueos slaughtering every  mob in sight in lopeing plains ) that kill a 1000 groups a night just giggleing. <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Guy De Alsace]

<p>There were 2 people selling on Oasis when I logged out. Both packs going for 300 plat each.</p>

[DragonMaster2385]

<p>I was in a Sculpter group in SS and one dropped from a wooden chest from a normal mob.  I didn't win, but I checked the broker and no booster packs were found.  However, someone was selling a starter deck for 12 gold!  I bought it, even though I already have the mage and fighter decks.</p>

[Cusashorn]

Even though there's no proof to back this up, people on Kithicor are saying its a 300:1 ratio.

[Lornick]

<cite>DragonMaster2385 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I was in a Sculpter group in SS and one dropped from a wooden chest from a normal mob.  I didn't win, but I checked the broker and no booster packs were found.  However, someone was selling a starter deck for 12 gold!  I bought it, even though I already have the mage and fighter decks.</p></blockquote>That's an extremely lucky buy!  Probably some poor noob who didn't know what he had selling it =p

[retro_guy]

Arrgh, 26 minutes till I can leave work, can't wait to get home <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" /> Darn and blast, why did I put off tidying the house till today, I'm currently calculating the bare minimum of cleaning I have to do (before my girlfriend gets home in 24 hours), to maximise my LoN farming potential.

[Xelphneigh]

<cite>retro_guy wrote:</cite><blockquote>Arrgh, 26 minutes till I can leave work, can't wait to get home <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img mce_tsrc=" />" /> Darn and blast, why did I put off tidying the house till today, I'm currently calculating the bare minimum of cleaning I have to do (before my girlfriend gets home in 24 hours), to maximise my LoN farming potential. </blockquote>LOL spoken like a true addict <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[KunamitsuUK]

<cite>Guy De Alsace wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>There were 2 people selling on Oasis when I logged out. Both packs going for 300 plat each.</p></blockquote><p>[Removed for Content] Thats very Optimistic of them - A) LON is that important to someone that they will pay 300P for those Packs</p><p>                                                            B) Someone who is THAT interested in LON has 300P to shell out.</p><p>Broker Greed never fails to amuse me. When Kunark arrives look out for T8 common harvestables going for 1P a shot <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p>

[Guy De Alsace]

<p>It does concern me that the first thing I thought was "Is that cheaper than farmed plat?" I'm wondering if people will start comparing real world prices with the going rate for bought platinum. I dont know enough to predict what that could do to be honest.</p><p>Interesting times.</p>

[Ualday]

Personally, I'd use them if I found them, but if I decided not to I would sell them for around 3-5pp.

[dhvyse000]

<cite>Strums wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I know that LON goes live today...but unfortunately I am stuck at work and unable to test out the drop rate of LON boosters.  Dose anyone know yet what mobs will drop the boosters?  Will it be raid mobs?  Named mobs?  Solo con mobs?</p></blockquote>Who cares!  I for one will never touch the game, and will be angry to get drops of cards I can't sell.

[Norrsken]

<cite>dhvyse000 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Strums wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I know that LON goes live today...but unfortunately I am stuck at work and unable to test out the drop rate of LON boosters.  Dose anyone know yet what mobs will drop the boosters?  Will it be raid mobs?  Named mobs?  Solo con mobs?</p></blockquote>Who cares!  I for one will never touch the game, and will be angry to get drops of cards I can't sell.</blockquote>Hmm. Methinks you ought to locate your nearest broker and search it for "Legends of Norrath"

[Kalyai]

<p>I play on an SE server... we already look at how much Plat is worth in RL dollars...</p><p>so when I see that someone is trying to sell these card packs for 300 plat or even 25 plat...</p><p>on my server, plat averages around $1 - $2 per plat last I checked....</p><p>So..  $50 for a pack of cards I can buy for $2.99...</p><p>Well...sorry, it doesn't look like the farmers are making any money off of me!! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Foolsfolly]

My lvl 20 alt is up to about 30 chests now with no booster packs. Either I'm extremely unlucky, or there is a minimum level they forgot to tell us about, or packs only drop in legendary+ chests.

[Nolrog]

<cite>Foolsfolly wrote:</cite><blockquote>My lvl 20 alt is up to about 30 chests now with no booster packs. Either I'm extremely unlucky, or there is a minimum level they forgot to tell us about, or packs only drop in legendary+ chests.</blockquote>It's about 1 in 300 drop rate.  You still have 270 to go before you'll be unlucky. 

[Nocifer Deathblade]

<cite>Nolrog wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Foolsfolly wrote:</cite><blockquote>My lvl 20 alt is up to about 30 chests now with no booster packs. Either I'm extremely unlucky, or there is a minimum level they forgot to tell us about, or packs only drop in legendary+ chests.</blockquote>It's about 1 in 300 drop rate.  You still have 270 to go before you'll be unlucky.  </blockquote>If that drop rate is true then it's good to see $3 per booster is well preserved cuz it is "cheaper" to buy boosters with cash than trying for one off mob.. or buy one via broker for lot of plats..

[Treggar]

I dunno, they seem pretty rare to me. I mentored my wifes level 38 character today, killed non heroic blue and green mobs and got her an entire level with no vitality and no questing with no pack drops. Figured it might have had something to do with mentoring so I grouped with her dirge (and me, a zerker) and wiped out single non heroic lvl 65-68 mobs with my aoes for around 3 hours in loping plains... still nothing. <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> But when I check the broker, there are several of those gold farmer names with them all up for sale for ~25p so either I'm killing in the wrong places or these guys have been at it all day. I hope they make the packs lore or something because these gold farmers are really gonna profit from it the way they kill groups of mobs in shifts 24/7.

[Nocifer Deathblade]

<cite>Treggar@Guk wrote:</cite><blockquote>But when I check the broker, there are several of those gold farmer names with them all up for sale for ~25p so either I'm killing in the wrong places or these guys have been at it all day. I hope they make the packs lore or something because these gold farmers are really gonna profit from it the way they kill groups of mobs in shifts 24/7.</blockquote>It's funny cuz SOE already stated strongly about anti-plat farmers for LON. Yet, plat farmers who always farm any green mobs for money 24/7 will greatly benefit from LON packs increasing their revenue potential... They did it opposite way..

[hobi]

not only booster packs dropping but on the lon forums apparently starter decks are dropping as well now which is when redeemed you get one of the 4 decks randomly and thats 55 cards wonder how much we see thosw going for on the brokers now

[Jaxl]

<cite>Gnevil wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>24p wow thats a great deal, just last week we had a flame war on Butcherblock for selling the stein card for 70p ... by the way confirmed he sold one at that price not sure if he ever got the other sold.</p><p>Just fyi .. I blame not the player for this he is just greedy and getting what he can when he can... </p><p>I BLAME THE DEVS for allowing these to be traded during the beta to peeps that weren't in the game...</p></blockquote>O'rly?  <a href="http://www.trollandtoad.com/p79658.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.trollandtoad.com/p79658.html</a>Who knows whats in there.. could be 15 Ali Babas!  <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Foolsfolly]

I'm pretty sure the 1 in 300 quote was for eq1, in which there are no chests and all loot just drops on corpses.

[Zela]

Wouldn't the best way to "farm" them be to make a wizard, disable combat exp, give them adept 1 of their first nuke and blow up level 1 mobs?  Or can packs not drop in newbie areas?

[Norrsken]

<cite>Foolsfolly wrote:</cite><blockquote>I'm pretty sure the 1 in 300 quote was for eq1, in which there are no chests and all loot just drops on corpses.</blockquote>I think I saw the first 1:300 ratio post before boosters were dropping in eq1... Not sure though.

[JamesRay]

Heard somebody on LON forums say they got a starter deck off a lvl 7 mob or something real low...so everybody has a fair shake.

[Mealaan]

i got a booster drop last night in castle mistmoore=D - crushbone

[Vodr]

<cite>Zela wrote:</cite><blockquote>Wouldn't the best way to "farm" them be to make a wizard, disable combat exp, give them adept 1 of their first nuke and blow up level 1 mobs?  Or can packs not drop in newbie areas?</blockquote>That doesn't seem to work,  I have been farming for my transmuter and pulled about 50 or so chests last night and not a single drop.  May be disabled on newbie isle to prevent farming due to the super fast re-spawns.

[zimdar]

<p>LoN... ability drops... WTG sony here is one more fine example of you you really dont give 2 cp about your game or who plays it.. already pvp isnt about skill.. not for 1 second is it about skill.. its about ganking soloers.. and ganking often.. you wont get rid of titles.. which is the number 1 reason why people run from pvp... now u give people abilities... and no u dont have to buy them.. but it sure helps so now its about he who spends more money will gank better today.. </p><p>ImO.. this game is on its downfall.. and Sony isnt doing anything at all to help this.. Fix your game before you go off and add bone headed ideas like giving people abilities of any kind if they buy booster packs... and ya go ahead and give you sugar coated answer that any mob can drop this BS... I and lots of my friends are seriously considering leaving this game beacause of this.. FIX YOUR GAME...</p><p>Anyone else feel me?   who is happy in pvp about mentoring..? who is happy about pvping anywhere other than t2 which is also almost pointless?   make this game about skill not about anything other than skill.. anyone can run and zone hop to protect their precious title... or camp until some reusable ability comes up.. WHAT A FREAKING RIP OFF!!!</p><p>FIX YOUR GAME</p>

[Solaran_X]

Considering we can buy the packs from SOE at...what? $2.99/pack? $3.99/pack? These prices are funny...<img src="http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/Solaran_X/EQ2_000076.jpg" alt="" border="0" /><img src="http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/Solaran_X/EQ2_000077.jpg" alt="" border="0" />Perhaps it's a new way SOE is combating plat sellers?

[Xelphneigh]

<cite>zimdar wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Anyone else feel me?</p>FIX YOUR GAME</blockquote>Somewhat about titles but LoN? No, sorry.. I think your just ranting and using LoN as a platform.

[Zela]

I thought the exact same thing Vae, I laughed when I saw the prices people were trying to charge.  When these items are being legitimately sold for 3 dollars outside of the game...you can't have prices that high.  I saw one for sale for 14 plat which was the most reasonable thus far.  Things should settle down soon I would imagine.

[DragonMaster2385]

I would not say that this is ruining the game.  I highly doubt people are actually paying 100 plat for a $3 booster pack.  The prices will go down after the sellers realize that no one is buying.  Whenever new items are added to a game, it becomes a seller's market.  After they have been here for a while, it becomes a buyer's market.  Check back in a month and you will see the price drop.  Plat farmers are having fun now, but it won't last.

[Tristan3000]

Just sold a pack (1x starter deck, 2x booster packs) for 13p on Nagafen, which is a reasonable price according to the G M W O R K E R . C O M conversion <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />

[Nephretiti]

<p>I won a booster pack within an hour of it going live off of one of the lvl 10 large cenipede type mobs in the bog off of Starcrest.</p><p>I kept it - i friggen love this game!</p><p>BTW - I didn't get anything I didn't already have - except for Slippers of Dark Mana....</p>

[Strums]

<cite>zimdar wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>LoN... ability drops... WTG sony here is one more fine example of you you really dont give 2 cp about your game or who plays it.. already pvp isnt about skill.. not for 1 second is it about skill.. its about ganking soloers.. and ganking often.. you wont get rid of titles.. which is the number 1 reason why people run from pvp... now u give people abilities... and no u dont have to buy them.. but it sure helps so now its about he who spends more money will gank better today.. </p><p>ImO.. this game is on its downfall.. and Sony isnt doing anything at all to help this.. Fix your game before you go off and add bone headed ideas like giving people abilities of any kind if they buy booster packs... and ya go ahead and give you sugar coated answer that any mob can drop this BS... I and lots of my friends are seriously considering leaving this game beacause of this.. FIX YOUR GAME...</p><p>Anyone else feel me?   who is happy in pvp about mentoring..? who is happy about pvping anywhere other than t2 which is also almost pointless?   make this game about skill not about anything other than skill.. anyone can run and zone hop to protect their precious title... or camp until some reusable ability comes up.. WHAT A FREAKING RIP OFF!!!</p><p>FIX YOUR GAME</p></blockquote><p>HOLY NINJAH POST BATMAN!!!!  I think you wanted the pvp boards for this post lulz...</p><p>But anywho...I ran through poets, nest, all of the instances in the tower in Mara "for monk pebbles" and then killed another 3 hours or so in LP and still have yet to see a booster.  However, the Nagafen broker is full of these things for 20+ plat.</p><p>So they do seem pretty rare, but im sure the prices will lvl out within a week or so.</p>

[JamesRay]

<p>Somewhat related question:</p><p>Do boosters always drop a certain ratio of rares/uncommons/commons? IE 1 rare, 3 uncommons, 11 commons, or something along those lines?</p><p>Do starters always drop a certain number of rares, or are all of them a static mirror image of one another?</p><p>Can either of these items drop an in-game item, or just boosters?</p>

[Norrsken]

<cite>JamesRay wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Somewhat related question:</p><p>Do boosters always drop a certain ratio of rares/uncommons/commons? IE 1 rare, 3 uncommons, 11 commons, or something along those lines?</p><p>Do starters always drop a certain number of rares, or are all of them a static mirror image of one another?</p><p>Can either of these items drop an in-game item, or just boosters?</p></blockquote>yeah, always the same ratios of cards.And only boosters and starters drop in game, not specific cards.

[JamesRay]

<p>Oops.</p><p>OK I guess what I meant to ask is can both booster packs and starter decks contain an in-game redeemable item?</p><p>Also, does one "fighter" start deck for example differ at all in the cards it contains from another "fighter" starter deck? IE any randomization?</p>

[Gladiia]

<cite>JamesRay wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Oops.</p><p>OK I guess what I meant to ask is can both booster packs and starter decks contain an in-game redeemable item?</p><p>Also, does one "fighter" start deck for example differ at all in the cards it contains from another "fighter" starter deck? IE any randomization?</p></blockquote><p>Starter decks are pre-made to the best of my knowledge.  I haven't gotten a duplicate of a starter deck, and probably wouldn't open a duplicate - but I very much doubt that there is any randomization within and 1 of the 4 starter decks.</p>

[Cadori Seraphim]

Starter Decks are premade. So if you get one fighter starter and then for some reason get a second one and open it up, it will have contained the same cards as the first fighter starter.Boosters are where the random/loot cards come from.As far as those prices.. I laughed my butt off when I seen them on my server. I cant believe how stupid some people are rofl.

[JamesRay]

Does a starter have a chance of having an in-game item or only boosters?

[Cadori Seraphim]

Only boosters.The starters are a premade set of 50 cards (minimum size for a deck) that can be used straight out of the box to play a game with. They are all the same, so if you want variety or loot cards you need to buy the boosters. (or hope boosters drop for you in game)