Operation Timed out?!!

[Revark]

<p>I did not see any maintenance or downtime messages for today, however when I try to launch EQ2, the launchpad says. "Operation Timed out"</p><p>Any ideas?</p>

[Quin]

I'm getting it too.

[Ranja]

<a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=380702" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=380702</a>Said it will only affect log-ins but I got timed out when I tried to zone. Oh well

[Hollyf]

<p>This might help you understand what is going on : </p><p> Game Maintenance: Friday, September 5, 2007On Wednesday, September 5, 2007 from 7:00 am to 9:00 am, all station services that require a login will be undergoing maintenance. Login to all games and forums will fail for a brief time. This should not affect in game play, only the login process. </p><p>I was in CMM with a group and was kicked off bc of login issues; have had the 'operation timed out' and now 'You do not have an EQ2 subscription." All part of this thing with login maintenance, Im sure .</p>

[itsifas]

BAH! so much for playing before i go to work

[dpsman]

<p>My wife and I were getting the same message and now it says we dont have a subscription.</p><p>Something is really hosed with the log in servers.</p><p>I think they went to far this time, they nerfed the log in servers for no reason at all, just to nerf.</p>

[Skua]

bleh the game kick me out >.< now cant login

[XAvengerX]

<p>Sadly it DID affect in game play, as trying to zone also requires the login server apparently... zone and you are kicked out of game ... lol</p>

[Curaja]

Same for me but now we get a new message to stare at <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> You do not have a EverQuest II subscription <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Revark]

<cite>Ranja wrote:</cite><blockquote><a rel="nofollow" href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=380702" target="_blank">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=380702</a>Said it will only affect log-ins but I got timed out when I tried to zone. Oh well</blockquote>Same here, the title aslo says FRIDAY, which was throwing me off, although today is the 5th.

[picantel]

Eq has messed up big 2 times this week. Has anyone gotten a credit for the time the servers were done? Yah I didn't think so

[Revark]

<cite>Curaja wrote:</cite><blockquote>Same for me but now we get a new message to stare at <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" width="15" height="15" /> You do not have a EverQuest II subscription <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" width="15" height="15" /></blockquote><p>Gettings this too.....</p>

[Birn]

It's starting to get really annoying with all these downtimes lately on EU primetime (well almost primetime...)

[Kimage]

<p>lets not get our panties in a bunch ok folks.</p><p> Its posted they will be down from 7-9 and while I am majorly bummed I can't play before work ( my usual tinkering time ) we dont have any indication it will be the Great Gremlin Attack of August 2007!</p>

[Kenban]

LON goes live this morning and its just maintenance to get the game working and out of beta. What I don't understand is why they did not just take the servers down for an hour or two.

[Curaja]

this is as exciting as watching paint dry <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> wow I'm a nerd I keep trying to log in although I know it wont work <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Goldmoon]

I am getting the same things Operatin timed out and that i don't have a subscription. <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  I hope it gets fixed soon.

[Kity]

I was kicked out of game as well, I was getting this operation has timed out when I tried to log back in, now it is tell me I dont have a subscription. Good to know its not just me, I was freaking out there, even called my hubby at work.

[Kojo]

Ya, we're getting the same Error message...This is getting a bit old. the nightmare last Friday was totally inexcusable. a guildmate was naked and penniless for **5 DAYS** due to the ill-conceived patch they put in and then not having a GM get back to his repeated requests for assistance.

[Halanna]

<p>Yep, same thing.  I was zoning, got kicked from the server.  First time I got 'operation timed out'.  The last two times got "you do not have an everquest II subscription" which sent me into a little bit of panic.</p>

[Silmawyn]

hubby and I both got the "you do not have a subscription" as well...but we had no idea there was any downtime today. He works nights, so when he saw the message of having no subscrition he was [Removed for Content].

[mykei]

<p>  Booted from the game here and now i cant log back in.</p><p>  so much for peeps online not being ....</p>

[fergus1062]

<p>Yea I got booted from game, then when I tried to log back in kept coming up with "Operation Timed out",     Now its saying "You do not have an Everquest 2 account"</p><p>bahhhh</p>

[Curaja]

wow I had no idea that so many people were on at this time lol got to page 2 pretty soon 3 and its only been like 5 minutes

[Hollyf]

<cite>Curaja wrote:</cite><blockquote>wow I had no idea that so many people were on at this time lol got to page 2 pretty soon 3 and its only been like 5 minutes</blockquote>LoL ! Whats funnier is its the same "Yeah, me too..Im getting this msg and then getting this msg too." 

[Norrsken]

<cite>Kenban wrote:</cite><blockquote>LON goes live this morning and its just maintenance to get the game working and out of beta. What I don't understand is why they did not just take the servers down for an hour or two.</blockquote>Bet they were trying to be nice, but just didnt think of that zoning requires a check against the login servers...

[Auberon_Feykin]

It's European afternoon.  There's at least a few hundred people from SP/Runnyeye who were playing when they went into the maintenance period, and more of us are coming hme from school/work by the minute.  There's plenty of people playing EQ2 every hour of every day . . . just a shame they don't drop servers in the middle of the nigh Pacific, at least then it'd be early afternoon in Europe, and impact even fewer people.  As it is the downtime extends well into normal playtimes for many people here in Europe.AGAIN.

[mykei]

<p> aye, just like LoN is not a wart!</p>

[damahra]

Hey Sony...an ingame message about "find a place to log, 2 hours of downtime coming up" woulda save evryone a lotta grief and questions. I can't believe that the devs for a multi million dollar system had NO idea it would effect game play.

[Curaja]

wow I'd hate to see the body count if EverQuest II suddenly stopped hosting servers

[Goldmoon]

<cite>Curaja wrote:</cite><blockquote>wow I had no idea that so many people were on at this time lol got to page 2 pretty soon 3 and its only been like 5 minutes</blockquote>lol there are a lot that either are still on from yesterday or just trying to relax b4 going to work.  I didn't expect that many comments to come in either but i am glad that there are more than a few having the same problem

[amanda4]

More down time for that stupid card game.  I am soooo gonna boycott it.

[faeriegu]

bah

[Chiasmus]

<cite>dpsman wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>My wife and I were getting the same message and now it says we dont have a subscription.</p><p>Something is really hosed with the log in servers.</p><p>I think they went to far this time, they nerfed the log in servers for no reason at all, just to nerf.</p></blockquote><p>Of course. They're just doing maintenance on the server for no reason at all. Companies do that all the time. There couldn't be a good reason that they're doing maintenance on the server, it MUST be just to cause you grief. The message right there beside your login screen saying they're doing maintenance on the login servers between 7-10am pdt, which is 10am-1pm eastern (which is now) couldn't have anything to do with it. You're right, they've gone too far! You should show them how you feel and cancel your subscription, since you obviously can't handle the fact that servers are machines and they require maintenance. </p><p>Or, since you're supposed to be an adult (since you say you're married), why don't you act like one? I expect young kids to be waving the 'SOE is stupid! SOE is just doing things to inconvenience me!' flag, but supposed adults should realize that just because you don't like what they're doing doesn't mean 1. it's not necessary and 2. it is not meant as an insult to you. </p>

[Vonotar]

<cite>Ranja wrote:</cite><blockquote><a rel="nofollow" href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=380702" target="_blank">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=380702</a>Said it will only affect log-ins but I got timed out when I tried to zone. Oh well</blockquote>What they don't tell you, is that you physically 'login' every time you zone, a pretty poor state of affairs and I suspect one of the driving forces behind making the zones bigger for RoK (reduce the number of 'logins'<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" />

[Vonotar]

<cite>amanda4 wrote:</cite><blockquote>More down time for that stupid card game.  I am soooo gonna boycott it.</blockquote>ditto

[liveja]

<p>The only part about this downtime that really irks me, is that it's not on the Network Status page.</p><p>I'm not sure why they even bother with a Network Status page, since updates to that page are few & far between <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/1cfd6e2a9a2c0cf8e74b49b35e2e46c7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p>

[Trever]

so do all of us have our subscriptions deleted or is that just a bug?

[Curaja]

I don't mean to sound offensive but more then a few people here came off as kinda desperate lol I seriously think there would be quite a big of a body count if EQ II stopped hosting their servers

[Auberon_Feykin]

<cite>damahra wrote:</cite><blockquote>Hey Sony...an ingame message about "find a place to log, 2 hours of downtime coming up" woulda save evryone a lotta grief and questions. I can't believe that the devs for a multi million dollar system had NO idea it would effect game play. </blockquote>We had multiple warnings from an hour beforehand on Runnyeye.

[Hollyf]

Totally agreed with you on that one~ Its hardly ever correct for Server Status, not to mention that when they post for Maintenance downtime or (whatever) the posted day to go along with the date is never right. Pooh !

[Katsi]

<cite>Chiasmus wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite></cite><p>The message right there beside your login screen saying they're doing maintenance on the login servers between 7-10am pdt, which is 10am-1pm eastern (which is now) couldn't have anything to do with it.</p></blockquote>The only problem with this statement.... the <i>login</i> screen doesn't say they're doing maintenance.  That would be the <i>patch </i>screen.  As we cannot <i>log in</i>, we cannot get to the <i>patch </i>screen.- Katsi

[Martessa]

<cite>preppy wrote:</cite><blockquote>I am getting the same things Operatin timed out and that i don't have a subscription. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" width="15" height="15" />  I hope it gets fixed soon.</blockquote><p>I'm also being affected by this and gettting the same message that I do not have  a subscription.  Will we have to contact them to get our account back?</p>

[Chiasmus]

<cite>Flaye@Mistmoore wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The only part about this downtime that really irks me, is that it's not on the Network Status page.</p><p>I'm not sure why they even bother with a Network Status page, since updates to that page are few & far between <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/1cfd6e2a9a2c0cf8e74b49b35e2e46c7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p></blockquote>That's been a beef of mine for a while, the network status page is not in synch with actual status. It's useless. They really should make that page actually check status itself rather than rely on manual updates.

[Chiasmus]

<cite>Martessa@Oasis wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>preppy wrote:</cite><blockquote>I am getting the same things Operatin timed out and that i don't have a subscription. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src=" width="15" height="15" />" width="15" height="15">  I hope it gets fixed soon.</blockquote><p>I'm also being affected by this and gettting the same message that I do not have  a subscription.  Will we have to contact them to get our account back?</p></blockquote>No, the login servers are just down, that error is thrown because it's getting a null return from the query to the servers. You'll be fine when they come back up.

[dpsman]

<cite>Chiasmus wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>dpsman wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>My wife and I were getting the same message and now it says we dont have a subscription.</p><p>Something is really hosed with the log in servers.</p><p>I think they went to far this time, they nerfed the log in servers for no reason at all, just to nerf.</p></blockquote><p>Of course. They're just doing maintenance on the server for no reason at all. Companies do that all the time. There couldn't be a good reason that they're doing maintenance on the server, it MUST be just to cause you grief. The message right there beside your login screen saying they're doing maintenance on the login servers between 7-10am pdt, which is 10am-1pm eastern (which is now) couldn't have anything to do with it. You're right, they've gone too far! You should show them how you feel and cancel your subscription, since you obviously can't handle the fact that servers are machines and they require maintenance. </p><p>Or, since you're supposed to be an adult (since you say you're married), why don't you act like one? I expect young kids to be waving the 'SOE is stupid! SOE is just doing things to inconvenience me!' flag, but supposed adults should realize that just because you don't like what they're doing doesn't mean 1. it's not necessary and 2. it is not meant as an insult to you. </p></blockquote><p>Are you a complete idiot?</p><p>I was being sarcastic, why because SOE does nerf things out of the blue for no reason some times.</p><p>Now slowly and I mean slowly go back and read what I posted and what your reply is, think maybe you are the one who over-reacted.</p>

[Hollyf]

Login is back up <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Skua]

you are all banned!!!!!!!!!! oh the sky is falling!!!!!!!!!!!! jokes asidewarnings dont hurt D:

[Chiasmus]

<cite>Katsi wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Chiasmus wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite></cite><p>The message right there beside your login screen saying they're doing maintenance on the login servers between 7-10am pdt, which is 10am-1pm eastern (which is now) couldn't have anything to do with it.</p></blockquote>The only problem with this statement.... the <i>login</i> screen doesn't say they're doing maintenance.  That would be the <i>patch </i>screen.  As we cannot <i>log in</i>, we cannot get to the <i>patch </i>screen.- Katsi</blockquote>I do stand corrected on that point. I must have instinctively gone to eq2players and saw the notice on the main page and my poor brain just associated it with the patch screen notices.

[Norrsken]

<cite>Vonotar@Butcherblock wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Ranja wrote:</cite><blockquote><a rel="nofollow" href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=380702" target="_blank">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=380702</a>Said it will only affect log-ins but I got timed out when I tried to zone. Oh well</blockquote>What they don't tell you, is that you physically 'login' every time you zone, a pretty poor state of affairs and I suspect one of the driving forces behind making the zones bigger for RoK (reduce the number of 'logins'<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" /></blockquote>I'd wager that the server system is built in such a way as to be hosted on several different pieces of hardware, so the loggin in when zoning might be there to accomondate for switching to a completely different hardware system that have no prior knowledge of you being logged in. you might not even be logging in when you zone, but rather the new server is just asking the login system "Hey, is this dude really logged in?" to prevent people from bypassing the login system and all that. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Pikard]

isn't back up for me

[Chiasmus]

<cite>dpsman wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Chiasmus wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>dpsman wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>My wife and I were getting the same message and now it says we dont have a subscription.</p><p>Something is really hosed with the log in servers.</p><p>I think they went to far this time, they nerfed the log in servers for no reason at all, just to nerf.</p></blockquote><p>Of course. They're just doing maintenance on the server for no reason at all. Companies do that all the time. There couldn't be a good reason that they're doing maintenance on the server, it MUST be just to cause you grief. The message right there beside your login screen saying they're doing maintenance on the login servers between 7-10am pdt, which is 10am-1pm eastern (which is now) couldn't have anything to do with it. You're right, they've gone too far! You should show them how you feel and cancel your subscription, since you obviously can't handle the fact that servers are machines and they require maintenance. </p><p>Or, since you're supposed to be an adult (since you say you're married), why don't you act like one? I expect young kids to be waving the 'SOE is stupid! SOE is just doing things to inconvenience me!' flag, but supposed adults should realize that just because you don't like what they're doing doesn't mean 1. it's not necessary and 2. it is not meant as an insult to you. </p></blockquote><p>Are you a complete idiot?</p><p>I was being sarcastic, why because SOE does nerf things out of the blue for no reason some times.</p><p>Now slowly and I mean slowly go back and read what I posted and what your reply is, think maybe you are the one who over-reacted.</p></blockquote>Nope <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> just a partial idiot.

[Curaja]

woot we're up and runnin!

[Pikard]

<p>Yep, just came up for me, and I noticed more downloads, wonder what they scrooged  up this time?</p><p>Greg</p>

[Auberon_Feykin]

Login currently up, but server still locked.

[Guy De Alsace]

Still cant get on. No EQ2 subscription.

[Pikard]

<p>This is almost hilarious, login servers are working now the the game servers are down.</p><p>Greg</p>

[two0fus]

This isnt rant about logging as as the message on the board clearly says you wont be able to....but it also says if wouldnt effect game play which is bs...i wasnt even zonning when i got booted me and a friend had just started pulling green dragon room for gem updates for claymore and bam booted...that DOES effect game play. especially as ill probably be dead when i get back

[Curaja]

don't use the auto patcher just log in from the game itself

[HealerMathi]

someone please tell me that this is why the [Removed for Content] client is telling me I have no subscription...because I am currently FURIOUS knowing that SoE decided to chop off over 1 month of my remaining purchased playtime

[liveja]

<cite>HealerMathias wrote:</cite><blockquote>someone please tell me that this is why the [I cannot control my vocabulary] client is telling me I have no subscription</blockquote>Yes, pretty much, the login servers aren't recognizing your subscription. Once they're back up & running fine, they *should*, & you shouldn't have any further issues.

[Norrsken]

<cite>HealerMathias wrote:</cite><blockquote>someone please tell me that this is why the [I cannot control my vocabulary] client is telling me I have no subscription...because I am currently FURIOUS knowing that SoE decided to chop off over 1 month of my remaining purchased playtime</blockquote>the login servers are down, so the system prolly jsut shows whatever error message is avaiable. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> A rather stupid one, but still. You do have a sub.

[HealerMathi]

*breath of relief* thank god...this would be strike 3 with SOE in the past month... thanks for the quick answer <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />whens the update suppose to finish?

[liveja]

<cite>HealerMathias wrote:</cite><blockquote>whens the update suppose to finish?</blockquote><p>Supposedly, at 9 a.m., PST, which is in about half an hour.</p><p>Don't be surprised if it takes longer, tho.</p>

[Guy De Alsace]

<p>You know, if the servers are deliberately brought down for an update - it would be prudent to have error messages changed to "The login server is currently down, estimated downtime will be xxx" instead of scary messages like "Invalid user name/password" or "You do not have an EQ2 subscription". Since I'm betting a lot of people will be busy scrutinising their account details right now wondering whats' wrong.</p><p>Very slack indeed. Not everyone reads the forums.</p>

[Vonotar]

<cite>Guy De Alsace wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>You know, if the servers are deliberately brought down for an update - it would be prudent to have error messages changed to "The login server is currently down, estimated downtime will be xxx" instead of scary messages like "Invalid user name/password" or "You do not have an EQ2 subscription". Since I'm betting a lot of people will be busy scrutinising their account details right now wondering whats' wrong.</p><p>Very slack indeed. <b>Not everyone reads the forums.</b></p></blockquote>Including Sony themselves most of the time...I believe that expired accounts cannot post in the forums (unless this changed when the forums changed over) so if your posting here... you have an active account.

[liveja]

<cite>Guy De Alsace wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>You know, if the servers are deliberately brought down for an update - it would be prudent to have error messages changed to "The login server is currently down, estimated downtime will be xxx"</p></blockquote><p>Truer words never written.</p><p>SOE, please find a way to better update your players as to server status.</p>

[TheGuyWithOneArm]

<p>this is that ring of clowns i was telling you about.</p><p>they dont give two [Removed for Content] about the paying customer, why should they? sure someone with that little red/orange/plaid name might come by and respond to you all but we're all still [Removed for Content] for taking this from them.</p>

[Guy De Alsace]

<p>In DDO there is a text box on the login screen in English, German and French (iirc) stating what the current position is with the servers. When update times are altered or an update is imminent and any other game-state changes that might happen on the fly.</p><p>I usually know about planned downtimes a week or more in advance. Its there on the login screen so you cant miss it.</p>

[liveja]

<cite>TheGuyWithOneArm wrote:</cite> <blockquote><p>but we're all still [Removed for Content] for taking this from them.</p></blockquote><p>Please speak for yourself, thank you very much.</p><p>OR, do the intelligent thing & vote with your feet & your wallet, so you won't feel like such a donkey any more.</p>

[Pikard]

<p>No, leaving won't help. they don't care. what we need to do is get the industry regulated or monitored in some way by the goverment. They (SoE) don't seem to be able to clean up thier own house so maybe its time a regulatory body did it for them.</p><p>Greg</p>

[liveja]

<cite>GregR01 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>what we need to do is get the industry regulated or monitored in some way by the goverment.</p></blockquote><p><img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/385970365b8ed7503b4294502a458efa.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p><p><img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p><p>Sheesh, I can just imagine the current American administration (or any likely to replace it) involved in such a boondoggle.</p>

[Pikard]

<cite>Flaye@Mistmoore wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>GregR01 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>what we need to do is get the industry regulated or monitored in some way by the goverment.</p></blockquote><p><img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/385970365b8ed7503b4294502a458efa.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p><p><img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p><p>Sheesh, I can just imagine the current American administration (or any likely to replace it) involved in such a boondoggle.</p></blockquote>Gotta be better than the stuff SoE is throwing at us now. At least we'd have a say.

[liveja]

<cite>GregR01 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Flaye@Mistmoore wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>GregR01 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>what we need to do is get the industry regulated or monitored in some way by the goverment.</p></blockquote><p><img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/385970365b8ed7503b4294502a458efa.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p><p><img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p><p>Sheesh, I can just imagine the current American administration (or any likely to replace it) involved in such a boondoggle.</p></blockquote>Gotta be better than the stuff SoE is throwing at us now. At least we'd have a say.</blockquote><p>You think you'd have a "say", either with the current administration or its replacement? Please. They'd slide the regulations in under the table, the media would say nothing about them -- because the vast majority of the media wouldn't care about it, & some would even applaud such steps -- & you'd never even know what they were.</p><p>I wouldn't be surprised if part of those regulations were, say, limits on the amount of time you could play in any given day, since "we all know" that MMOs are "addictive", & you know, we just have to "protect the children".</p><p>Seriously, you don't want Big Brother intervening.</p>

[Galldora]

<span style="font-size: small;font-family: comic sans ms,sand;">WHAT?  Government regulation of MMO downtime?  ROFL!  What are you smoking that you think this would be a good idea?  Please, no!</span><span style="font-size: small;">BTW, </span><span style="font-size: x-small;"><span style="font-family: comic sans ms,sand;"><span style="font-size: small;">Is this only affecting only some of the servers?  I'm in-game now on one computer and have been for more than an hour, and I'm logged in on another (new) computer where I'm loading all the updates since the EofF cds came out.  All seems to be working fine, but perhaps I'm just delusional?  (Yippee!  Very excited to have received a second really nice gaming computer for my b-day yesterday, and glad the loading is moving right along because I CAN'T WAIT to try out the new machine!)</span></span></span>

[rareyrare]

<cite>Kimage wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>lets not get our panties in a bunch ok folks.</p><p> Its posted they will be down from 7-9 and while I am majorly bummed I can't play before work ( my usual tinkering time ) we dont have any indication it will be the Great Gremlin Attack of August 2007!</p></blockquote><p>Yeah, they psoted it.... Said it wouldn't effect gameplay. Guess Zoing isn't part of gameplay.... :-/</p><p>Another thing, when they do something like this, maybe they could announce on server, so the people who ARE in already, will know that if they zone, they're screwed.</p><p>BTW the date thing... last week, the date for the post was botched too... please wake up SOE</p><p>oops, didn't notice this was already 6 pages long... how long til AOC comes out?</p>

[Mystfit]

I, too, was on before and during the downtime (and even zoned!) without any issues. Near the end ofthe downtime, I got booted while standing aobut but  I assumed it was cause they were rebotting or some such thing and I lost connection.

[ke'la]

<cite>amanda4 wrote:</cite><blockquote>More down time for that stupid card game.  I am soooo gonna boycott it.</blockquote>You know a) there is more going on at SoE then LoN, b) if LoN where going live they would HAVE to take down the servers because when it goes live booster packs will start droping from MoBs, and in order to add an Iteam to the loot tables they have to drop the servers. c)there is a certain game in beta being devloped by another company that is going to be using SoE's Log-in Server(you know the thing thats down) to access thier game, as it was developed outside SoE it was not using SoE's server, at some point they have to transition to SoE's log-in server, it could be going down in preperation for that.

[ke'la]

<cite>GregR01 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>No, leaving won't help. they don't care. what we need to do is get the industry regulated or monitored in some way by the goverment. They (SoE) don't seem to be able to clean up thier own house so maybe its time a regulatory body did it for them.</p><p>Greg</p></blockquote>Yeah, lets have let<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Thompson_(attorney)" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> Jack Thompson</a> or the people who work at the DMV take care of our MMO gaming... Oh you want to play? Take a number you will be logged in in about 2hrs.

[ke'la]

<cite>GregR01 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Flaye@Mistmoore wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>GregR01 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>what we need to do is get the industry regulated or monitored in some way by the goverment.</p></blockquote><p><img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/385970365b8ed7503b4294502a458efa.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p><p><img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p><p>Sheesh, I can just imagine the current American administration (or any likely to replace it) involved in such a boondoggle.</p></blockquote>Gotta be better than the stuff SoE is throwing at us now. At least we'd have a say.</blockquote>Like the Citizens of the cities of Folsom and El dorado Hills had a say in the closing of the major transportation link between thier two cities? (Folsom Dam Road)

[Wargod1968]

<cite>Flaye@Mistmoore wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>GregR01 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Flaye@Mistmoore wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>GregR01 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>what we need to do is get the industry regulated or monitored in some way by the goverment.</p></blockquote><p><img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/385970365b8ed7503b4294502a458efa.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p><p><img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p><p>Sheesh, I can just imagine the current American administration (or any likely to replace it) involved in such a boondoggle.</p></blockquote>Gotta be better than the stuff SoE is throwing at us now. At least we'd have a say.</blockquote><p>You think you'd have a "say", either with the current administration or its replacement? Please. They'd slide the regulations in under the table, the media would say nothing about them -- because the vast majority of the media wouldn't care about it, & some would even applaud such steps -- & you'd never even know what they were.</p><p>I wouldn't be surprised if part of those regulations were, say, limits on the amount of time you could play in any given day, since "we all know" that MMOs are "addictive", & you know, we just have to "protect the children".</p><p>Seriously, you don't want Big Brother intervening.</p></blockquote>Couldn't have said it better myself, Flay. The less government the better. And certainly not in an MMO.

[Gnobrin]

<p>Sorry for my mistake, all.  My official post pertaining to maintenance was MEANT to be for Wednesday (TODAY) and not Friday.  Thanks to the speedy mods, the correction was made to reflect today and not Friday.</p><p>Again, I apologize for the flub.  I shall commence beating myself with a wet noodle for my infamy. </p><p>~Gnobrin!</p>