View Full Version : Swashbucklers are the best dps of all clases - Is that a good or a bad thing?
killer ho
09-04-2007, 09:49 AM
<p>The best dps in the raids I have joined have allways been lvl 70 Swashbucklers. Lvl 70 Wizards, Warlocks, Necromansers and Conjurors have no chances to out-dps a Swashbuckler. I will start to level up a Swashbuckler now, and I hope he can reach lvl 70 within November 13. 2007.</p><p>Before I start I wanna ask. Is there any chance that Swashbucklers will be nerfed when the new expansion comes out November 13. 2007? I hope not.</p>
Swashy dps is good but by no means over powered, if the "Lvl 70 Wizards, Warlocks, Necromansers and Conjurors have no chances to out-dps a Swashbuckler" that you've been raiding with it's then a short between their chairs and keyboards (ie. they need to learn thier classes, upgrade their spells and equipment etc), Swashy's are where they need to be.
Sonnyjim_Grumblestump
09-04-2007, 01:00 PM
to the OP:The problem you're going to run into is that you can't pick swashie to start, since you're very obviously a Troll. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />
Rattfa
09-04-2007, 01:02 PM
I LOL'd <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />
Awlis
09-04-2007, 01:42 PM
<p>haha soo right</p><p> I am a swashy in a top raiding guild... believe me if you play with people who knwo thier class you never gonna be top of dps listing... very occassionally I do on aoe fights but tbh ZW I fall behind</p><p>you play with slackers troll</p>
Hamervelder
09-04-2007, 02:16 PM
Whether it's in a group or a raid, it isn't our DPS that makes us shine. It's our debuffs. We make it easier for other dps classes to do damage. Rangers, warlock, wizards, necros, or what have you, will not do optimal dps w/out a brigand and/or swashbuckler around. As for the notion of being the <i>best</i> ... I'd say we're the most well-rounded. Our dps certainly doesn't even come close to that of wizards or rangers, but we can take beatings that would leave both of them in a bleeding pile on the ground.
Davhanama
09-04-2007, 07:57 PM
<p>Well..we may not have the highest DPS in a raid, but we look the best DPSing!</p>
Illyakuran
09-04-2007, 10:08 PM
<cite>Davhanama@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Well..we may not have the highest DPS in a raid, but we look the best DPSing!</p></blockquote><p>Aye, tis true!</p><p>I should have named my swashie "Booty".</p>
Belizarius
09-05-2007, 02:15 AM
<cite>killer hoss wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The best dps in the raids I have joined have allways been lvl 70 Swashbucklers. Lvl 70 Wizards, Warlocks, Necromansers and Conjurors have no chances to out-dps a Swashbuckler. I will start to level up a Swashbuckler now, and I hope he can reach lvl 70 within November 13. 2007.</p><p>Before I start I wanna ask. Is there any chance that Swashbucklers will be nerfed when the new expansion comes out November 13. 2007? I hope not.</p></blockquote><p>It's neither good nor bad, it's untrue.</p><p>You should tell your Wizards, Warlocks, Necros and Conjurors they suck and they need to lift their game.</p><p>Oh wait. Are you playing a Wizard, Warlock, Necro or Conjuror currently? If so, then I predict that switching to a swashy isn't going to help much...</p>
<cite>Belizarius wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>killer hoss wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The best dps in the raids I have joined have allways been lvl 70 Swashbucklers. Lvl 70 Wizards, Warlocks, Necromansers and Conjurors have no chances to out-dps a Swashbuckler. I will start to level up a Swashbuckler now, and I hope he can reach lvl 70 within November 13. 2007.</p><p>Before I start I wanna ask. Is there any chance that Swashbucklers will be nerfed when the new expansion comes out November 13. 2007? I hope not.</p></blockquote><p>It's neither good nor bad, it's untrue.</p><p>You should tell your Wizards, Warlocks, Necros and Conjurors they suck and they need to lift their game.</p><p>Oh wait. Are you playing a Wizard, Warlock, Necro or Conjuror currently? If so, then I predict that switching to a swashy isn't going to help much...</p></blockquote>QFT
YeldarbSpiritbla
09-12-2007, 12:08 PM
<p>Allies: (00:40) 696059 | 17401.47 [Dilvish-Fusion-13139]Skel 207345 | 5183.63 <span style="color: #ff3366;">< Berserker</span>Seijakuri 130328 | 3258.20 <span style="color: #ff3300;">< Swashbuckler</span>Xita 69646 | 1741.15 <span style="color: #ff3300;">< Berserker</span>Hobafast 61364 | 1534.10Vaalo 41913 | 1047.83Greiver 30111 | 752.78Krackerjack 28186 | 704.65Canaan 25712 | 642.80Nimu 25062 | 626.55Dilvish 22362 | 559.05Alysa 21482 | 537.05Handsofprophets 15461 | 386.53Deathsnote 9332 | 233.30Shriekar 2101 | 52.53Gilgalad 2015 | 50.38Shriek 1095 | 27.38Didntseeitcoming 119 | 2.98Bluewinged 0 | 0.00Eminent 0 | 0.00Flammingheart 0 | 0.00</p><p> Nerf BERSERKERS!! </p><p>Seriously, they're right, this is one encounter in Lyceum and the berserker is a fully equipped, fully buffed raid tank. First, check the situation, second, check the players. With all things equal, Illusionists, Summoners, Mages, and Predators should be at the top of the list. Notice how fusion did only 13k? A little ill timed I'd say.</p>
OutcastBlade
09-12-2007, 01:39 PM
<p>Me sad...</p><p>My debuff snare reduces the mobs mitigation down by a considerable amount vs. magical damage <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Now the dps casters beat me by long shots as oppose to small margins.</p><p>It sucks to be a swashbuckler... <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/908627bbe5e9f6a080977db8c365caff.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p>
liveja
09-12-2007, 06:50 PM
<cite>killer hoss wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Lvl 70 Wizards, Warlocks, Necromansers and Conjurors have no chances to out-dps a Swashbuckler </p></blockquote><p>/snicker</p><p>They're not as SEXEH as we are, either, & of course, that's really all that matters.</p>
Pulli
09-12-2007, 07:25 PM
<cite>YeldarbSpiritblade wrote:</cite><blockquote><p><span style="color: #cc0000;"><b><i><u>Allies: (00:40)</u></i></b> </span>696059 | 17401.47 [Dilvish-Fusion-13139]Skel 207345 | 5183.63 <span style="color: #ff3366;">< Berserker</span>Seijakuri 130328 | 3258.20 <span style="color: #ff3300;">< Swashbuckler</span>Xita 69646 | 1741.15 <span style="color: #ff3300;">< Berserker</span>Hobafast 61364 | 1534.10Vaalo 41913 | 1047.83Greiver 30111 | 752.78Krackerjack 28186 | 704.65Canaan 25712 | 642.80Nimu 25062 | 626.55Dilvish 22362 | 559.05Alysa 21482 | 537.05Handsofprophets 15461 | 386.53Deathsnote 9332 | 233.30Shriekar 2101 | 52.53Gilgalad 2015 | 50.38Shriek 1095 | 27.38Didntseeitcoming 119 | 2.98Bluewinged 0 | 0.00Eminent 0 | 0.00Flammingheart 0 | 0.00</p><p> Nerf BERSERKERS!! </p><p>Seriously, they're right, this is one encounter in Lyceum and the berserker is a fully equipped, fully buffed raid tank. First, check the situation, second, check the players. With all things equal, Illusionists, Summoners, Mages, and Predators should be at the top of the list. Notice how fusion did only 13k? A little ill timed I'd say.</p></blockquote>A 40 second fight? The swashbuckler could easily have burned Finesse, En garde and such to achieve that. A 3+ minute fight would smooth that DPS spike out considerably.
Antas22
09-12-2007, 08:26 PM
<cite>Pullite@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>YeldarbSpiritblade wrote:</cite><blockquote><p><span style="color: #cc0000;"><b><i><u>Allies: (00:40)</u></i></b> </span>696059 | 17401.47 [Dilvish-Fusion-13139]Skel 207345 | 5183.63 <span style="color: #ff3366;">< Berserker</span>Seijakuri 130328 | 3258.20 <span style="color: #ff3300;">< Swashbuckler</span>Xita 69646 | 1741.15 <span style="color: #ff3300;">< Berserker</span>Hobafast 61364 | 1534.10Vaalo 41913 | 1047.83Greiver 30111 | 752.78Krackerjack 28186 | 704.65Canaan 25712 | 642.80Nimu 25062 | 626.55Dilvish 22362 | 559.05Alysa 21482 | 537.05Handsofprophets 15461 | 386.53Deathsnote 9332 | 233.30Shriekar 2101 | 52.53Gilgalad 2015 | 50.38Shriek 1095 | 27.38Didntseeitcoming 119 | 2.98Bluewinged 0 | 0.00Eminent 0 | 0.00Flammingheart 0 | 0.00</p><p> Nerf BERSERKERS!! </p><p>Seriously, they're right, this is one encounter in Lyceum and the berserker is a fully equipped, fully buffed raid tank. First, check the situation, second, check the players. With all things equal, Illusionists, Summoners, Mages, and Predators should be at the top of the list. Notice how fusion did only 13k? A little ill timed I'd say.</p></blockquote>A 40 second fight? The swashbuckler could easily have burned Finesse, En garde and such to achieve that. A 3+ minute fight would smooth that DPS spike out considerably.</blockquote>Peyton Manning is a good quarterback.Oh...sorry, I thought we were stating the obvious while completely missing the point of Yeldar's post.
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