Arasai Lore (Help?)

[Sapphirius]

<p>Yeah yeah yeah, I'm pretty sure the majority of you out there are tired of this subject by now. This is a series of questions targeted <i><b>at the devs</b></i> because I'd like some definitive answers. I'm trying to more fully develop the backstory for my little Arasai girls, but I'm running up against some inconsistencies in the lore. I was kind of hoping for a clear explaination from a dev around the time that Darklight Woods opened, but since that isn't forthcoming, I'm just gonna lay it all out and hope for an answer now.</p><hr /><p>First off, Arasai are corrupted version of the Fae made by Queen Christanos. This was similar to how the dark elves were created, and we know that dark elves were not so corrupted as to completely change and/or lose their reproductive and development capabilities. They can still bear offspring and follow a life cycle just like that of the other elves and are even able to produce offspring with other races to produce Ayr'Dal children.</p><p>That part I get, so following along those same lines, we can assume that Arasai life cycles and Fae are the same, yes? This would mean that Arasai have about the same life span? And have parents and brothers & sisters and are born into the world rather than "hatched"? I ask this because Owlchick describe Fae life cycles very thoroughly, but when picking up Unseelie Form for my Arasai, I receive a book that describes how Christanos made the Arasai and why she made them in some detail. In this book, it says that the <i>spirit buds</i> were tortured and implies that the spirit buds <i>are</i> Fae. Yet, in Owlchick's responses on the forums, she makes it very clear that they are not the same. The spirit buds/blooms/flowers/whatever are reincarnated <i>souls</i> and that Fae merge with them later when they mature.</p><p>So, if the spirit bud is, in fact, not a Fae, how were the Arasai created from them? Did she also capture young Fae before they had merged with their blooms at the same time that she captured the blooms? Did she capture them after they merged and then extract the buds? Was she corrupting young Fae bodies to create her perfect soldiers at the same time that she tortured the spirit buds? Did she use some sort of strange arcane process to create a brand new Fae from what she saw in the buds? Just how did she create the Arasai if all that was captured was the spirit bud?</p><cite><cite>Owlchick wrote:</cite></cite><blockquote><p>Spectral wrote:</p><blockquote>I have a few questions relating to the lore and history of the fae:First, what kind of lifespan do fae have?  Don't need anything exact, just trying to figure out which segment of life my fae will be in.Second, what kind of family structure do Fae have?  Are they born or do they appear as a result of magical excess similar to faries?Third, are there any great heros in the Fae culture that would pertain to melee combat?  I suspect I can find the answer to this one off old EQ1 lore sites, but decided to ask at the source instead.Fourth, any cultural things that Fae should stay away from?  IE Fae normally don't like X.Hope I didn't ask anything too screwy, trying to come up with a decent backstory for my little Fae monk.  </blockquote><p>MG and I had long, philosophical discussions about these things.  I was surprised, actually, at how many folks asked your question two first (albeit phrased in such a way that would make someone as sweet and innocent as a Fae blush).</p><p>The general lifespan of a Fae is approximately 70 "human years," although of course disease, war and other unpleasant things can shorten that considerably. </p><p><b><span style="color: #ffff00;">Fae families are essentially the same as Feir'Dal: there is a father and a mother and then there are little cherubs.  What changes within a Fae is a period during which their spirit begins to stir, an awakening that marks the end of their childhood and the beginning of the adult phase in their lives.</span></b>  The Fae may not generally remember precise details of their spirits' past, but they may have increased sensitivity to places and things that held significance for that spirit.  Some Fae have a much stronger spirit that allows glimpses of its past in addition to the emotional stirrings tied to locations and objects.</p><p><b><span style="color: #ffff00;">Before joining with a new Fae, the spirit buds tend to cluster in areas near Kelethin, sometimes called "nurseries," although the spirits are not actual flowers.</span></b> Fae are obviously very close to nature and some of their spirits would probably enjoy sleeping on a petal, so there are often spirits floating amongst gardens.  <b><span style="color: #ffff00;">In fact, when a Fae dies, its spirit is often seen as a tiny, flickering light that will remain near the site of that Fae's demise for some time.  That light is considered the "spirit bud" and is often brought back to Kelethin by the deceased Fae's kin.  Losing a spirit bud is considered a very tragic event, as it means that the memories and experiences of that particular Fae's spirit cannot be recovered.  A particular fear is losing a spirit bud far from home, as the Fae worry that their enemies might seek to use that spirit with unnatural and unpleasant consequences.</span></b></p><p>Combat is not the primary focus of the Fae, so there are no martial heroes in the sense of conquerers.  Individuals are less likely to be known than groups of defenders, though even in that regard, the Fae are pretty reticent about their achievements.  There are no written records of the Fae being involved in the War of the Fay (which began the Burning Ring), although according to Fae tradition, they had come to the defense of Kelethin and allied with the Feir'Dal.  Perhaps, as they were smaller in size then, their contributions were simply overlooked. In this way, any modern Fae can tell the tale of how one of their ancestors did this thing or the other during the War of Fay (or any other Ring in their history) and no one can really dispute it. </p><p>Fae, like many magical beings, are superstitious.  They would rather cross upstream than downstream (as being downstream has the "ebb" factor, and they consider it bad luck to do something that might cause their magic to ebb).  They prefer not to ride horses because the motion is not as smooth and graceful as their glide...but then, some Fae find it great fun because it's so different.  They particularly like dark chocolate with...oh...wait.  That last one was about me. </p><p>The Fae love to play tricks of all kinds on the unwary and they don't mind when the joke is on them so long as it's a good one.</p><p>Hope this helps somewhat.</p><p>T'chickDesigner</p></blockquote><hr /><p>Second, how do the Arasai develop? If I follow along the same lines of logic as above, I can assume that Arasai merge with their spirit bud when they mature just as Fae do, and that they create one when they die. However, I don't really see any nurseries in Darklight. The most I see is the Well of Nightmares with all of the malevolent spirits floating around it that we capture later for a fellow in the Outpost from about the stout & ranger undead. Are these the spirits of those fallen stouts and rangers? Or are they Arasai spirit buds that have strayed off elsewhere? Or are Arasai different and born with a spirit bud already? If they are different, how is it that their life cycles managed to change so dramatically from the Fae when Teir'Dal were not changed as dramatically from Koada'Dal?</p><p>Do Arasai go through a merging similar to the Fae? And if so, where are their spirit buds kept? If not, how is their development process different?</p><p><cite>Owlchick wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>Illmarr wrote:: <blockquote><p>So you have baby cherubs over here, and Spirit buds over there waiting to join. That suggests that the cherubs are the product of biological reproduction to me. They exist without being merged with a Spirit Bud. My question off this working premise becomes: Are the Fae drawn by some mystical force when the time is right to the Nursery to join with their Spirit Bud?</p><p><i>Yes, that's a great way of looking at it.  It's sort of like listening to a song , or reading a poem, and feeling something stir inside you.  You want to find out more about whatever it is that brought on those feelings, so you read more poems or listen to more of the same music.  The Fae are naturally curious creatures, so this is a time when they will explore their environment, seeking out places where these feelings are strongest.</i></p><p>Is there a sort of racial Ritual/Celebration that takes young Fae into the Nursery and then whatever joining occurs? </p><p><i>As the Fae youth feel these stirrings, they naturally gravitate toward those areas in which the Fae spirit buds are more concentrated.  And of course, a high concentration of Fae spirit buds would be most likely to occur in areas where there are magical influences that allow them freedom to grow.</i></p><p>Am I over-thinking and is this just too esoteric or irrelevant a question/topic for a game?</p><p><i>Well, as someone quoted me earlier, I was surprised by how many people are thinking this through to it's natural, er, beginning</i>.</p></blockquote><p>((Owlchick's responses are the italicized above))</p></blockquote><hr /><p>My last question is about some very basic characteristics typical of the Arasai race. The Fae are mischevious little pranksters, but with good-hearted humor. The Arasai are also little pranksters, but they're quite malicious about it. The Fae are very close to nature and are very superstitious. Do the Arasai feel any connection to anything? Or nature? Are they superstitious as well? Is there some other distinction besides color, wing patterns, and malicious intent that defines Arasai from the Fae?</p>

[Cusashorn]

It's questions like these that makes me wish Neriak as a city was better developed, including many many more books scattered about the city or libraries. Too bad we only get that one book that gives the Arasai thier 5% run speed spell.

[Nocturnal Aby]

I'm a little too sleepy to comment or really think about the rest of it (and in all honesty, I probably don't know enough, or enough is known by the public in general, to answer these with much adequately).<div></div><div><span style="color: #d2c5a9;" class="Apple-style-span">"Second, how do the Arasai develop? If I follow along the same lines of logic as above, I can assume that Arasai merge with their spirit bud when they mature just as Fae do, and that they create one when they die. However, I don't really see any nurseries in Darklight. The most I see is the Well of Nightmares with all of the malevolent spirits floating around it that we capture later for a fellow in the Outpost from about the stout & ranger undead. Are these the spirits of those fallen stouts and rangers? Or are they Arasai spirit buds that have strayed off elsewhere? Or are Arasai different and born with a spirit bud already? If they are different, how is it that their life cycles managed to change so dramatically from the Fae when Teir'Dal were not changed as dramatically from Koada'Dal?"</span></div><div><span style="color: #d2c5a9;" class="Apple-style-span"></span></div><div><span style="color: #d2c5a9;" class="Apple-style-span">If you can turn your graphic settings high enough, you can see what look like tons of spirit bud-type glowies all around the Queen's Castle, and I believe around the fountain just inside the city from Darklight Wood.</span></div>

[Sapphirius]

<cite>Nocturnal Abyss wrote:</cite><blockquote><div>If you can turn your graphic settings high enough, you can see what look like tons of spirit bud-type glowies all around the Queen's Castle, and I believe around the fountain just inside the city from Darklight Wood.</div></blockquote><p>Ah. I usually keep my graphics on at close to max quality settings. I'll have to go back to Neriak and take a look again. In GFay, the spirit buds are <i>huge</i> glowy things floating around the Nursery. They're very hard to miss no matter what quality you keep your settings. At least, they appear huge to my tiny Fae. I'm sure they wouldn't be so large if my warden were looking at them. <whisltes inconspicuously></p><p><cite>Nocturnal Abyss wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>I'm a little too sleepy to comment or really think about the rest of it (and in all honesty, I probably don't know enough, or <i>enough is known by the public in general</i>, to answer these with much adequately).</blockquote><i>Bingo!</i> That's why I'd really like a dev answer on this topic. We, as players, really don't know enough to answer this because there hasn't been enough information released regarding it. What has been released contradicts itself and the previously stated lore.

[Nocturnal Aby]

Alright, simply from what you stated about the nature of the Fae (they're born, and when they reach a certain age, their souls can be merged with an older soul, creating a stronger soul that will share some traits with the Fae that have come before, and sometimes, share memories as well), I don't really see anything contradictary.  As for the nature of Fae, knowing what we do about the Queen, and how much interaction that an Arasai can have with nature in a big cave, I'd imagine they are closer to the necromantic arts.  A good place to learn more about them would be their racial abilities.  Look through those, and see what sort of comments they have.  I haven't seen a post from a Lore dev in a while, I think they're all working OT on the Kunark project.  The sparklies look similar to the ones in GFay and the Nursery, excpet there are more purple and blue, and less green.  If you have your graphics set on high, you've people seen them, and just didn't even think about them.  There are also sparklies around the tree in Darklight.

[Sapphirius]

Nocturnal, the contradiction comes in the book about the creation of the Arasai. If you have not read this book, find an Arasai character who's gotten their unseelie form and <i>read the book</i>. The lore and what you just said are one thing, and this book says something completely different.

[Illmarr]

<p>This will be just speculation, but I'm gonna post it anyway just to hear you crack your whip Sapph <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/908627bbe5e9f6a080977db8c365caff.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p><p>Vhalen has said that the Kelethin dwelling Fae are not the only example of Faefolke. And Faefolke are influenced greatly by the ambient magic of the area they live in. </p><p>I don't have an Inny worshipper that's high enough to have completed the diety questline, but for the sake of this speculation I'm assuming that Inny followers are constantly bringing in a supply of spirit buds that the Queen is getting her hands on. Now going on Nocturnal's info about the buds gathered around the Queen's castle (Which is home to The Dead faction, Sks and Necros so there is a great deal of ambient magical energy centered there) </p><p>So my theory is that the stolen and corrupted buds soak up the malicious nature of the magic of the castle after being broken down by the Queen. Now this part is the reach and speculation: <i>Faefolke native to Neriak/Darklight Wood/Nektulos wind up drawn to the "nursery" of corrupted buds at the castle. When the Faefolke join with the corrupted bud, the Faefolke are influenced by the original template of the spirit bud before it's capture and torture and they adapt a physical form similar to the Faydark Fae. </i></p><p>What was the reason Arasai wings were different from Fae wings again? I'm typing from work, and let my Arasai go for over a month and killed too many brain cells in Vegas over the long weekend to remember. THe queen destroys them and replaces them with bat wings? Or is that only males?</p>

[Kamimura]

<p>(Chapters two and three of the Arasai book from the Neriak library.) </p><p>Queen Christanos performed dark and beautifully abhorrent magics upon the captured spirit blossoms. She would allow them birth, and then torture them with unspeakable acts. After the inevitably painful deaths, she would perform further sadistic magics upon the resulting spirit blossoms. Over and over, the cycle of birth, torment and death continued, thus molding them into something new- something superior to the fae by far!The wings of the fae turned out to be too fragile to withstand the violent acts. Time and time again, durring Queen Christanos' tainting of the blossoms, the creatures were formed with withered and broken wings.She knew this to be an opportunity to further remove them from the appearance of the pitiful fae, and to embody them with the characteristics of creatures associated with such blissful aspects as decay and darkness. Through further delightful twisting, she adapted the wings of dank cave creatures such as bats and moths for her malignant children. But even to this day, a few arasai are born without wing or with wings too damaged to allow flight. As a result they are granted arcane constructed wings on which they can still glorify Her Darkness in deed and word.</p>

[Sapphirius]

<cite>Ilmaaaaah@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>This will be just speculation, but I'm gonna post it anyway just to hear you crack your whip Sapph <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/908627bbe5e9f6a080977db8c365caff.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p></blockquote><p>I <i>like</i> my whip. <grins wickedly></p><p>Thanks for posting that chapter, Sairen! This is the exact phrase that confuses me and confounds all the lore that Owlchick spoke about.</p><p>"Queen Christanos performed dark and beautifully abhorrent magics <i>upon the captured spirit blossoms</i>. <span style="color: #ffff00;">She would allow them birth</span>, and then torture them with unspeakable acts. After the inevitably painful deaths, <i>she would perform further sadistic magics upon the resulting spirit blossoms</i>."</p><p>So my question is, is the phrase about "allowing them to birth" referring to allowing the <i>spirit blossom</i> to birth? Or allowing a group of captured Fae to birth, merge with their blossom as they mature, and <i>then</i> torture them? I'd like some sort of clarification on this part.</p>

[Cusashorn]

I think it just means they were allowed to be brought to life by any means necissary before the subjects were killed or disposed of and stuff.

[IrishWonder]

At EoF launch, everything in the newbie quest lines for Fae hinted that the spirit buds birth into new Fae... and that the Fae is not born first, then merged. When Owlchick gave her original story on how Fae are created, I remember being very confused about how it matched up with in-game dialogue. To this point, there is still a growing list of inconsistencies <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/136dd33cba83140c7ce38db096d05aed.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />

[Axxon]

<cite>Sapphirius wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>So my question is, is the phrase about "allowing them to birth" referring to allowing the <i>spirit blossom</i> to birth? Or allowing a group of captured Fae to birth, merge with their blossom as they mature, and <i>then</i> torture them? I'd like some sort of clarification on this part.</p></blockquote><p>It almost seems like the "spirit" component of the Arasai or Fae is eternal - meaning it cannot be destroyed by the destruction of the host body.  But, it can be corrupted by torture through arcane or magical influences. So the captured Fae is born and tortured until dead.  The freed spirit is then merged with another...whatever - the corporeal half of the thing - born, tortured, spirit released, merged, born, tortured etc., until Crissy got them to be as twisted as she wanted them.  At the end of these cycles, you get Arasai.  </p><p>Does that make any sense?</p>

[Nahisa]

<cite>Axxon@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite></cite>It almost seems like the "spirit" component of the Arasai or Fae is eternal - meaning it cannot be destroyed by the destruction of the host body.  But, it can be corrupted by torture through arcane or magical influences. So the captured Fae is born and tortured until dead.  The freed spirit is then merged with another...whatever - the corporeal half of the thing - born, tortured, spirit released, merged, born, tortured etc., until Crissy got them to be as twisted as she wanted them.  At the end of these cycles, you get Arasai.  <p>Does that make any sense?</p></blockquote>Minor correction, but the level 55 Innoruuk deity quest has you capturing a spirit bud from the nursery. I really wish I had the script for it, but it's worth looking at.

[Sapphirius]

<cite>Nahisa@Unrest wrote:</cite><blockquote>Minor correction, but the level 55 Innoruuk deity quest has you capturing a spirit bud from the nursery. I really wish I had the script for it, but it's worth looking at.</blockquote><p>This is correct. You are required to steal a bud from the nursery for Innoruuk, which confirms in this quest that they are the glowy things and not actual flowers or baby Fae. The buds are supposedly sent to Christanos for corruption (or so I assume). I'm just wondering if she, in addition to stealing the buds (reincarnated spirits), also stole Fae children or other Fae unfortunates?</p><p>BTW, here are the pictures that Nocturnal spoke of. I didn't see the glowies at first because they were colored and not white, so they kind of blended in. <blush> While I know it's never safe to assume anything, I'm going to go on ahead and assume that these are Arasai spirits waiting for their own vessel.</p><p><img src="http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/Sapphirius/Random%20Screenshots/ArasaiSpiritBuds.jpg" border="0" alt="" width="800" height="448" /> </p>

[Kaitheel]

<p>I may not be as pretty as Owlchick, but I hope my points will help! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Not everything in Norrath lines up beautifully. Keep in mind that all the information you find in game, whether through book or dialog, is being delivered from someone's point of view. They may have an agenda or a personal slant that will bring to light seemingly contradictory points from another's telling. For instance, I doubt the book "Arasai -Hate Gives Rise To Another Superior Race!" was written by a Teir'dal, for it does not paint them in the most complimentary of light. Also, the book is a retelling of the tale. Perhaps it is the story that Cristanos wants people to know. Perhaps it is propaganda built on bits of truth, intentionally shrouded in mystery.</p><p>In the sentence, "She would allow them birth, and then torture them with unspeakable acts." The pronoun is referring to the spirit buds. But the word "birth" could be referring to a physical birth, the moment of creation, or an awakening of consciousness. As far as the Arasai creation tale goes it has never been specified. Some Arasai may take it literal, others more metaphorically, and others may find it blasphemous to even question it. (They know who created them and who above all else deserves their praise!)The spirit bud is the spirit of the deceased, in both the case of Fae and Arasai. As you said, "Arasai merge with their spirit bud when they mature just as Fae do, and that they create one when they die." You are right. Were the original Arasai buds placed in captured Fae, or did Cristanos use yet more dark magics to give them physical bodies? Again, that is her secret. I wouldn't put either past her! What we know for sure is that when she damaged the chrysalis, the butterfly came out wrong!You are also correct to interpret the purple and blue orbs that languish around Neriak and especially Darklight Palace, are the spirit buds of Arasai.</p>

[Ama]

<cite>Kaitheel wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I may not be as pretty as Owlchick, but I hope my points will help! <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" width="15" height="15" /> Not everything in Norrath lines up beautifully. Keep in mind that all the information you find in game, whether through book or dialog, is being delivered from someone's point of view. They may have an agenda or a personal slant that will bring to light seemingly contradictory points from another's telling. For instance, I doubt the book "Arasai -Hate Gives Rise To Another Superior Race!" was written by a Teir'dal, for it does not paint them in the most complimentary of light. Also, the book is a retelling of the tale. Perhaps it is the story that Cristanos wants people to know. Perhaps it is propaganda built on bits of truth, intentionally shrouded in mystery.</p><p>In the sentence, "She would allow them birth, and then torture them with unspeakable acts." The pronoun is referring to the spirit buds. But the word "birth" could be referring to a physical birth, the moment of creation, or an awakening of consciousness. As far as the Arasai creation tale goes it has never been specified. Some Arasai may take it literal, others more metaphorically, and others may find it blasphemous to even question it. (They know who created them and who above all else deserves their praise!)The spirit bud is the spirit of the deceased, in both the case of Fae and Arasai. As you said, "Arasai merge with their spirit bud when they mature just as Fae do, and that they create one when they die." You are right. Were the original Arasai buds placed in captured Fae, or did Cristanos use yet more dark magics to give them physical bodies? Again, that is her secret. I wouldn't put either past her! What we know for sure is that when she damaged the chrysalis, the butterfly came out wrong!You are also correct to interpret the purple and blue orbs that languish around Neriak and especially Darklight Palace, are the spirit buds of Arasai.</p></blockquote><p>Ack! A mini Vhalen > . < <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/49869fe8223507d7223db3451e5321aa.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="20" height="15" /></p><p>Well one thing that sticks out in my mind is when my little Arasai was roaming around Neriak.  He came upon a teacher giving new mages a demonstration of summoning creatures from the plane of hate.  When she summoned the 3rd creature *May have been 4th or 5th* she said that it was summoned from the highest plane of hate.  She went on to say that only her and the Queen were able to summon these most powerful beasts. </p><p>Have to say I wouldn't doubt the queen using highly powerful dark magical arts to create the Arasai. </p>

[Sapphirius]

<p>Much love for ya! Thanks for answering most of my questions. I guess the one that remains unanswered is the one that will always be shrouded in mystery.</p>

[Owlchick]

<cite>Kaitheel wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I may not be as pretty as Owlchick, but I hope my points will help! <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src=" width="15" height="15" />" width="15" height="15"> </p></blockquote><p>You're much, much cuter than I am <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" width="15" height="15" /></p><p>Edited to add.... Please don't call out dev names in thread titles as we will usually not respond to them. That, and I'm not on the EQII dev team so I didn't see this until Kaitheel mentioned it. But like, you know...don't be a'callin' us out like that in the title! Thanks <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Cusashorn]

<cite>Owlchick wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Kaitheel wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I may not be as pretty as Owlchick, but I hope my points will help! <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src=" width="15" height="15" />" width="15" height="15"> </p></blockquote><p>You're much, much cuter than I am <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src=" width="15" height="15" />" </p></blockquote>Ok I demand pics!

[Sapphirius]

Title changed. Hehehe. Thanks again for the response though.

[xOnaton1]

You've probably seen a lot of pictures of Owlchick since she was an EQ2 dev for a long time.Kaitheel has been interviewed a couple times on the SOE podcast and there's a picture of him in the show notes for <a href="http://www.station.sony.com/podcasts.vm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">podcast #17</a>.Othesus - Dirge - Lucan DLereVaspar - Fury - Lucan DLere

[Rabid-Othmir]

<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Owlchick wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Kaitheel wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I may not be as pretty as Owlchick, but I hope my points will help! <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img mce_tsrc=" width="15" height="15" />" width="15" height="15"> </p></blockquote><p>You're much, much cuter than I am <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img mce_tsrc=" width="15" height="15" />" </p></blockquote>Ok I demand pics!</blockquote>Well now you've surely scared them off for good.

[Sapphirius]

<cite>Rabid-Othmir wrote:</cite><blockquote>Well now you've surely scared them off for good.</blockquote>Nah. For some reason, I think it'd take a lot more than that to scare a dev off.

[Ama]

<cite>Owlchick wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Kaitheel wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I may not be as pretty as Owlchick, but I hope my points will help! <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src=" width="15" height="15" />" width="15" height="15"> </p></blockquote><p>You're much, much cuter than I am <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src=" width="15" height="15" /></p></blockquote><p><img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/0320a00cb4bb5629ab9fc2bc1fcc4e9e.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p><p>I'm with cusashorn I demand pictures! <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/ed515dbff23a0ee3241dcc0a601c9ed6.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p>

[Nocturnal Aby]

<cite>Owlchick wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Kaitheel wrote:</cite><p>Edited to add.... Please don't call out dev names in thread titles as we will usually not respond to them. That, and I'm not on the EQII dev team so I didn't see this until Kaitheel mentioned it. But like, you know...don't be a'callin' us out like that in the title! Thanks <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" width="15" height="15" /></p></blockquote>Should we avoid mentioning dev names in our posts as well, or do you bother looking at such things? I.E.  What is the best thing we can do to get a response from one of you wise-and-wonderful developers/designers who actually know what's going on?

[Ama]

<cite>Nocturnal Abyss wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Owlchick wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Kaitheel wrote:</cite><p>Edited to add.... Please don't call out dev names in thread titles as we will usually not respond to them. That, and I'm not on the EQII dev team so I didn't see this until Kaitheel mentioned it. But like, you know...don't be a'callin' us out like that in the title! Thanks <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src=" width="15" height="15" />" width="15" height="15"></p></blockquote>Should we avoid mentioning dev names in our posts as well, or do you bother looking at such things? I.E.  What is the best thing we can do to get a response from one of you wise-and-wonderful developers/designers who actually know what's going on?</blockquote><p>The reason they don't like to post in threads with developer/designers in the title or threads addressed to specific devs is so they arn't called out.  If they replied to all posts with names in it they would be overwhelmed with some people asking stupid stuff calling em out.  </p><p>Dealing with things lore wise is generally best to let things take their course.  Developers are kinda quirky and from what I have seen they may pop into it providing some lore.  Some posts I have made haven't caught a developers eye and generally progressed their own course then died.  However some posts developers/designers made an interesting comment in and it took off in the same or another direction.  All posts I have not asked for info from developers and it is always a surprise to receive some helpful information. </p>

[Sapphirius]

<p>Psssst.... Can this thread please stick to the topic on hand? You can ask and asnwer in PMs. <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>I'd be more interested in learning about what was discussed in the mage lesson at the K'Lorn library. I'm currently searching for lore on Queen Christanos herself to see if there's any clues that may lead to why she seems somewhat possessed right now. If you talk to her in game, she's got the whole double voice thing going on. I mean, I wasn't really surprised by anything I found in the castle, thought the bedroom full of manservants has me giggling. Then when I hailed her, just whoa.</p>

[Nocturnal Aby]

<p>Poor manservants..</p><p>And my apologies..though (from personal experience) it looks like the devs have said everything they're going to say. Le sigh...</p>

[Sapphirius]

Actually, I'm tickled pink with the amount of information they did give me in this thread. Now, I'm branching off to reasearch other avenues and come up with my own theories for Christanos's creation of the arasai and what influences her currently.