View Full Version : is this site stealing your hard work
BSbon
08-25-2007, 11:53 AM
<p>most of you probablly saw coyote's blog from friday about the site <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.mmowtf.com/" target="_blank">http://www.mmowtf.com/</a> posting his entire blog entry for the day. this is copyright infringement. the person who runs this site is doing the same thing to dozens of sites without permission. if you have an EQ2 site i would urge you to first check to see if your material is being stolen by this site and then report the copyright infringement to google ads through this link</p><p><a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.google.com/adsense/support/bin/request.py?search_ask=1&subtopic=&contact=report_violoation&main_topic=other&contact_type=11&contact_topic=Report+a+policy+violation&Action.Search=Continue" target="_blank">https://www.google.com/adsense/supp...Search=Continue</a></p><p>it is against the rules of googles ad program to post copyrighted material and have their ads on the same page. this person is making money off your hard work.</p><p>thank you</p>
Josgar
08-25-2007, 12:04 PM
Yeah, they should not be posting full articles/leaching pics... they need to only post links @_@
Seagoat
08-25-2007, 12:08 PM
<p>This guy seems to be pulling from sites' RSS feeds. If the entire blog post is included in the RSS feed -- even images -- he's not violating copyright laws. If, however, the feed only includes a partial post and he's actually <i>going to the original website</i>, C&Ping the post from there, and reposting it on his site, then yeah, there's a problem.</p><p>This guy isn't crediting himself as the author of any of the posts, and he's providing links to the original blogs, feeds, and posts in the header of every entry. There are a bazillion other sites out there that do this sort of thing (feed aggregators), and it's perfectly legal as long as they're not accumulating information that's not publicly provided in the RSS feeds.</p><p>Coyote himself even <a href="http://coyote.blogs.tentonhammer.com/?p=350" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">took it back</a>.</p><p>In short, if you don't want your content aggregated by another site, don't provide it in a feed that's accessible by God and everybody. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> ...Or at least truncate your feed to inlclude only partial posts and no images.</p>
Josgar
08-25-2007, 12:34 PM
ACtually it looks like coyote is about to lay a beat down upon them...Anyways: They are not crediting themselves, but they are copy pasting his entire article on to their website, with his pictures, and placing it on their site (stealing his band width) and they are making money off of it to (points to adsense) Im glad they dont have anything of mine... I think they should only be posting the article name with links... similar to what eq2-daily is doing.
ke'la
08-25-2007, 12:49 PM
<cite>Seagoat wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>This guy seems to be pulling from sites' RSS feeds. If the entire blog post is included in the RSS feed -- even images -- he's not violating copyright laws. If, however, the feed only includes a partial post and he's actually <i>going to the original website</i>, C&Ping the post from there, and reposting it on his site, then yeah, there's a problem.</p><p>This guy isn't crediting himself as the author of any of the posts, and he's providing links to the original blogs, feeds, and posts in the header of every entry. There are a bazillion other sites out there that do this sort of thing (feed aggregators), and it's perfectly legal as long as they're not accumulating information that's not publicly provided in the RSS feeds.</p><p>Coyote himself even <a rel="nofollow" href="http://coyote.blogs.tentonhammer.com/?p=350" target="_blank">took it back</a>.</p><p>In short, if you don't want your content aggregated by another site, don't provide it in a feed that's accessible by God and everybody. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" width="15" height="15" /> ...Or at least truncate your feed to inlclude only partial posts and no images.</p></blockquote>When you publish something for profit, it does not matter how you got it. You have to credit the origanal auther and get thier permistion(or the permistion of the copywrite holder) to publish it. This site did not just get it from pull an RSS feed put it up, they reformated it and republished it, hence the addtion of the Incorrect "by line". If it was just a raw feed it would be by Coyote Sharptongue, just like it is on his site. But instead it's by Not Funny...Ever a discription of Coyote.
GPA_Coyote
08-27-2007, 09:28 AM
<p>Actually, Coyote took *nothing* back.</p><p>I don't have a problem with RSS feeds. Sites like EQ2-Daily are a perfect example how to be a link site with both class and style. EQ2-Daily is a SOLID site, and I give them nothing but respect and props. They work HARD and it shows.</p><p>MMOWTF however...</p><p>A) Has no contact information. Those of us who know how to GET it even get blocked as they run through a secure "discrete domain" provider. So if I didn't want my stuff on their site, how would I let them know?</p><p>B) Are running ad banners that generate revenue. Not a bad thing it itself, and if they were providing links back to me instead of my whole article, I'd have nothing to say - but seeing my entire article sitting next to a big ol' banner for Plat sales and Power Leveling? See A) as to how would I contact them.</p><p>C) I assumed they were a bot/profit site and started screwing with them in pics, which was hilarious. It was when they noticed and started playing back did I realize that they were a person - not an anonymous site. So a person, with no contact information.</p><p>E) They removed my RSS feed and began changing their site to list that they ARE a feeder site - yes, I was not credited for the work, they instead attribuited it to a RSS feed title, which is also annoying.</p><p>And lastly,</p><p>K) You are right. My RSS feed should have "first paragraph" only, and that will be taken care of - but this whole "It is his fault that his stereo was stolen 'cause he didn't lock his car" crap is BS.</p><p>To date, other than to banter in our respective columns by screwing with each other MMOWTF has not contacted me and I still have no way to contact them.</p><p>If that doesn't spell fishy, what does?</p>
Savanja
08-28-2007, 10:35 PM
We write the content that we do so that people come to our sites and read it. We rely on other sites to follow, in the least, a minor code of conduct. Sites like EQ2-Daily are ran with this in mind. They pull the feed for new links, and pass it back to us. It works well for both of us! They get credit for being a solid news source, and we get clicks back to our sites. EQ2-Daily is NOTHING like MMOWTF.By re-publishing every word in which we write, they effectively cut the writer out of the loop. Aside from banner clicks and impression revenue that we are here to work for, (Coyote does it for the love of writing, I'm all about the glory of fame and fortune), on a professional level, no one appreciates having their worked borrowed like that.
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