LU 38

[holypaladin28]

Have they said anything about lu 38 yet

[MullenSkywatcher]

Nope, we know that the card game and the dual wield changes are probably involved, but nothing is set until you see the test patch notes.  Prolly another day or so, they usually go up about a week before the end of the month.Keep an eye on the test update notes, its usually what winds up going on the live servers.

[Jeridor]

Don't they usually do one LU a month? It's going to be a good month and a half at least by the time they do announce, put it on test, and get some testing done on it. I have to say, I'm a bit disappointed.

[EtoilePirate]

<cite>Aphlos@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote>Don't they usually do one LU a month? It's going to be a good month and a half at least by the time they do announce, put it on test, and get some testing done on it. I have to say, I'm a bit disappointed.</blockquote>Live Updates are always, always farther apart and more sparse when there's a new expansion on the horizon.  The RoK launch is just over two months away, which means that in about a month all the stuff you'd ordinarily associate with LU39 will go to Beta, THEN to Test, if it goes to Test at all, then all be in a big launch day patch.  (Or maybe some pre-patching, they've gotten a lot better about that.)I think LU38 will be the last big content push that hits Test before RoK launches in November.

[Zabjade]

<cite>EtoilePirate wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Aphlos@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote>Don't they usually do one LU a month? It's going to be a good month and a half at least by the time they do announce, put it on test, and get some testing done on it. I have to say, I'm a bit disappointed.</blockquote>Live Updates are always, always farther apart and more sparse when there's a new expansion on the horizon.  The RoK launch is just over two months away, which means that in about a month all the stuff you'd ordinarily associate with LU39 will go to Beta, THEN to Test, if it goes to Test at all, then all be in a big launch day patch.  (Or maybe some pre-patching, they've gotten a lot better about that.)I think LU38 will be the last big content push that hits Test before RoK launches in November.</blockquote><span style="color: #00cc00;">I'm guessing they will start the new godling questlines soon and have Bristle become fully avalible.</span>

[Celline-Layonaire]

<cite>Kalgore@Vox wrote:</cite><blockquote>Have they said anything about lu 38 yet </blockquote>Believe me <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> the dev 'Kirstie' said they will release first part of LU 38# during the last week of august. Currently, LU 38# is scheduled to be put in the live servers near the start of September.

[ke'la]

<p>They also have repeatedly said they are not as conserned about pushing updates out on a specific time table but instead they want to launch them when they are ready, as for what is comming in 38</p><p>the current rummors are(and remember they are only rummors until it hits test)</p><ul><li>Duel Wield Changes</li><li>Fluff Armor Slots(so you can equip armor for looks and still have your stat gear underneath)</li><li>Possably the new God(it will be befor RoK and they are running out of time for 2 major updates)</li><li>LoN Launch.</li></ul><p>There will likly be a limited 39 wich will include the Holloween Live Event, and my guess is smaller tweaks and stuff. Followed by LU40 wich will have some LU stuff and RoK's launch.</p>

[Larogi]

<p><span style="color: #3333ff;">Here is what to expect for LU38:</span></p><p><a href="http://eq2.allakhazam.com/db/guides.html?guide=1057" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://eq2.allakhazam.com/db/guides...html?guide=1057</a></p><p><b><i>Chris "Aeralik" Kozak:</i></b>Chris addressed complaints about + spell damage and + heal power on items. Game Update 38 will change how those work by applying + spell damage to the initial tick instead of spreading it out. They will be adding a combat art version of the + spell damage that should eventually be added to items.</p><p>Also in GU 38 they are getting rid of the dual wield designation. This will simplify itemization. Dual wield weapons will upgrade damage automatically so they are comparable to similar one-handers already in game. To compensate for that with DW classes they will be reducing the delay on the weapons when dual wielding by 1.33. So there will be a small delay hit but you will do the same amount of damage as you do right now. They are also upgrading two-handers in GU 38 so they get a little more damage.</p><p>They are also looking at every class's spells: how their spells are designed and how the spells work together. Spells that are currently separate but are very similar will be merged into one spell. There will be no nerfs, but things like multiple group buffs and multiple debuffs may be made into one spell. You'll have more hotbar space. Right now there are classes with more abilities than they can possibly use in combat. Three hotbars by level 16 is a bit much, and this will bring current abilities a little closer to the current pacing of the game. This change will be on the Test server, and Chris welcomes suggestions posted on the forums. He emphasizes that they will be taking feedback, and things can change if it does not work as intended.</p><p><b><i>Jared "Lockeye" Sweatt:</i></b>In GU 38 the Bloodline Chronicles spells are being updated. You'll actually be able to get them at level 53; the goal is to make them more a part of your spell line rather than an oddball spell you'll rarely use. </p><p>Also in this update are changes to the fighter buffs, a project continued from GU 37 in an attempt to give fighters more raid slots. All fighter archetypes are having one buff changed to a raid-wide buff which should give them more utility and desirability in raids. With bards their resist buffs will become raid-wide and their solo buffs will do a lot more damage. </p><p><b><i>Emily "Domino" Taylor:</i></b></p><p>Kunark will also see the addition of more crafting related quests; the Alchemist quest in GU 37 is an example, and another for level 20+ crafters should go live in GU 38. With Kunark we're planning to add class quests for crafters, aimed at high level crafters of any adventure level. </p>

[Zabjade]

<cite>ke'la wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>They also have repeatedly said they are not as conserned about pushing updates out on a specific time table but instead they want to launch them when they are ready, as for what is comming in 38</p><p>the current rummors are(and remember they are only rummors until it hits test)</p><ul><li>Duel Wield Changes</li><li>Fluff Armor Slots(so you can equip armor for looks and still have your stat gear underneath)</li><li>Possably the new God(it will be befor RoK and they are running out of time for 2 major updates)</li><li>LoN Launch.</li></ul><p>There will likly be a limited 39 wich will include the Holloween Live Event, and my guess is smaller tweaks and stuff. Followed by LU40 wich will have some LU stuff and RoK's launch.</p></blockquote><span style="color: #00ff00;">I hope it's not a rehash of last <i><u><b>(and the year before's)</b></u></i> years Nights of the dead, lets rebuild the Mcquibble farm and fight in a barn instance. Maybe build something in the Commonlands for the Evils on PvP servers</span>

[Wingrider01]

<cite>Zabjade wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>EtoilePirate wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Aphlos@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote>Don't they usually do one LU a month? It's going to be a good month and a half at least by the time they do announce, put it on test, and get some testing done on it. I have to say, I'm a bit disappointed.</blockquote>Live Updates are always, always farther apart and more sparse when there's a new expansion on the horizon.  The RoK launch is just over two months away, which means that in about a month all the stuff you'd ordinarily associate with LU39 will go to Beta, THEN to Test, if it goes to Test at all, then all be in a big launch day patch.  (Or maybe some pre-patching, they've gotten a lot better about that.)I think LU38 will be the last big content push that hits Test before RoK launches in November.</blockquote><span style="color: #00cc00;">I'm guessing they will start the new godling questlines soon and have Bristle become fully avalible.</span></blockquote>Don;t think the the new deity quests will be added via  a GU, since they are mentioned at a integrated part of the new expansion

[ke'la]

<cite>Zabjade wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>ke'la wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>They also have repeatedly said they are not as conserned about pushing updates out on a specific time table but instead they want to launch them when they are ready, as for what is comming in 38</p><p>the current rummors are(and remember they are only rummors until it hits test)</p><ul><li>Duel Wield Changes</li><li>Fluff Armor Slots(so you can equip armor for looks and still have your stat gear underneath)</li><li>Possably the new God(it will be befor RoK and they are running out of time for 2 major updates)</li><li>LoN Launch.</li></ul><p>There will likly be a limited 39 wich will include the Holloween Live Event, and my guess is smaller tweaks and stuff. Followed by LU40 wich will have some LU stuff and RoK's launch.</p></blockquote><span style="color: #00ff00;">I hope it's not a rehash of last <i><u><b>(and the year before's)</b></u></i> years Nights of the dead, lets rebuild the Mcquibble farm and fight in a barn instance. Maybe build something in the Commonlands for the Evils on PvP servers</span></blockquote>So you hope they don't rehash last years rehash(plus 1 or 2 extras) of two years ago? So do I.

[ke'la]

<cite>Wingrider01 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Zabjade wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>EtoilePirate wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Aphlos@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote>Don't they usually do one LU a month? It's going to be a good month and a half at least by the time they do announce, put it on test, and get some testing done on it. I have to say, I'm a bit disappointed.</blockquote>Live Updates are always, always farther apart and more sparse when there's a new expansion on the horizon.  The RoK launch is just over two months away, which means that in about a month all the stuff you'd ordinarily associate with LU39 will go to Beta, THEN to Test, if it goes to Test at all, then all be in a big launch day patch.  (Or maybe some pre-patching, they've gotten a lot better about that.)I think LU38 will be the last big content push that hits Test before RoK launches in November.</blockquote><span style="color: #00cc00;">I'm guessing they will start the new godling questlines soon and have Bristle become fully avalible.</span></blockquote>Don;t think the the new deity quests will be added via  a GU, since they are mentioned at a integrated part of the new expansion</blockquote>THey specificly stated that there will be a new god introduced BEFOR RoK goes live, They also "hinted" (meaning did everything but accually come right out and say it) that the god will be Bristlebane.

[Jeridor]

I'm not saying this to whine and I really just intend it to be feedback for SOE, not to use it as leverage or anything... but I am giving great consideration to closing my account for a bit, and if LU's can't occur reliably once a month (give or take a fews days), I don't know if I'll resubscribe. It's only one station access account, not much in SOE's bottom line. I realize that, and it's not about that. I just see regular LU's as part of the built in value of my subscription and feel like I'm getting less than my money's worth in cases such as this.

[Tames]

<p>Current AA's should be addressed as any AA abilities etc that are based on fixed figures eg regen 10hp/AA point (not percentages) will devalue hugely when we are all level 80. Damage causing AA will need to increase as a 380pt DD at level 70 wont cut it at level 80 (for example).</p><p>Unless they add extra layers to the AA lines ie 12 steps per layer rather than 8 (and of course extra AA points to go with it).</p><p>Maybe they will look at our racial abilities at the same time, my racial proc isn't realistic past level 20.</p>

[DwarvesR]

<cite>Tamesan wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Current AA's should be addressed as any AA abilities etc that are based on fixed figures eg regen 10hp/AA point (not percentages) will devalue hugely when we are all level 80. Damage causing AA will need to increase as a 380pt DD at level 70 wont cut it at level 80 (for example).</p><p>Unless they add extra layers to the AA lines ie 12 steps per layer rather than 8 (and of course extra AA points to go with it).</p><p>Maybe they will look at our racial abilities at the same time, my racial proc isn't realistic past level 20.</p></blockquote>Heh.  I never thought my racial proc was ever realistic at any level.

[Dulissa]

<cite>Aphlos@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote>I'm not saying this to whine and I really just intend it to be feedback for SOE, not to use it as leverage or anything... but I am giving great consideration to closing my account for a bit, and if LU's can't occur reliably once a month (give or take a fews days), I don't know if I'll resubscribe. It's only one station access account, not much in SOE's bottom line. I realize that, and it's not about that. I just see regular LU's as part of the built in value of my subscription and feel like I'm getting less than my money's worth in cases such as this.</blockquote>umm almost every LU I can think of came at almost the very end of the month, which in turn then does make it seem like a long wait. So to say reliably once a month, well, they have been. You also say "in cases such as this" so I am assuming that you have been around for other expansions and major updates. As stated, with RoK but roughly 3 months away, don't expect too much big stuff to be in these next few LU's, but they will still be in a timely fashion.

[Norrsken]

<cite>Aphlos@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote>I'm not saying this to whine and I really just intend it to be feedback for SOE, not to use it as leverage or anything... but I am giving great consideration to closing my account for a bit, and if LU's can't occur reliably once a month (give or take a fews days), I don't know if I'll resubscribe. It's only one station access account, not much in SOE's bottom line. I realize that, and it's not about that. I just see regular LU's as part of the built in value of my subscription and feel like I'm getting less than my money's worth in cases such as this.</blockquote>did they every say they were gonna push out LUs once every month on a fixed cycle?

[DerykRenaln]

<cite>Aphlos@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote>I'm not saying this to whine and I really just intend it to be feedback for SOE, not to use it as leverage or anything... but I am giving great consideration to closing my account for a bit, and if LU's can't occur reliably once a month (give or take a fews days), I don't know if I'll resubscribe. It's only one station access account, not much in SOE's bottom line. I realize that, and it's not about that. I just see regular LU's as part of the built in value of my subscription and feel like I'm getting less than my money's worth in cases such as this.</blockquote><p>Consider this:Game went LIVE: 11/04Now: 08/07Doing the math: That's 32 months...let's even add a month for kicks 'n grins: 33 monthsThere have been 37 updates, 3 Adventure Packs, 3 Expansions: 43 updates to the game in 33 months!Do I need say more?</p>

[rumblepants]

<cite>Aphlos@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote>I'm not saying this to whine and I really just intend it to be feedback for SOE, not to use it as leverage or anything... but I am giving great consideration to closing my account for a bit, and if LU's can't occur reliably once a month (give or take a fews days), I don't know if I'll resubscribe. It's only one station access account, not much in SOE's bottom line. I realize that, and it's not about that. I just see regular LU's as part of the built in value of my subscription and feel like I'm getting less than my money's worth in cases such as this.</blockquote>Nowhere in the SLA does it say SoE needs to push out 1 LU per month and no software company for that matter would ever publish something like that. Updates/Patches are tried and tested before delivery (for the most part) and you are subscribing to play their content, not for their updates.

[Willias]

<cite>Aphlos@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote>I'm not saying this to whine and I really just intend it to be feedback for SOE, not to use it as leverage or anything... but I am giving great consideration to closing my account for a bit, and if LU's can't occur reliably once a month (give or take a fews days), I don't know if I'll resubscribe. It's only one station access account, not much in SOE's bottom line. I realize that, and it's not about that. I just see regular LU's as part of the built in value of my subscription and feel like I'm getting less than my money's worth in cases such as this.</blockquote>Then whatever you do, never play World of Warcraft.They get a content update every four to six months, if they're lucky.At least EQ2 is constantly either once a month or once every month and a half.

[Jeridor]

I never said SOE has stated they will push an update every month. It's simply something I have come to see as part of the subscription (typical benefit) and if it's not there, the subscription is less appealing. That's all I'm saying. And, while I do appreciate thoughts of others, the message was intended for SOE, not other customers.

[Inqr]

<p>Sorry, but this is not your "personal" forum to post to SOE. It is an open forum. </p><p>Therefore other people will comment weather you like it or not. </p><p>If we were getting less timely LU's for no reason then yes you have a point.</p><p>But with a major expansion in 2 months you do not have a leg to stand on.</p><p>I have closed my account before when I felt that the LU's were not adding enough for me. </p><p>I recently took a 2 month break. I suggest you just do the same.</p><p>                 Zardoz, Defiler 70 Befallen</p>

[DerykRenaln]

<cite>Aphlos@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote>I never said SOE has stated they will push an update every month. It's simply something I have come to see as part of the subscription (typical benefit) and if it's not there, the subscription is less appealing. That's all I'm saying. And, while I do appreciate thoughts of others, the message was intended for SOE, not other customers.</blockquote><p>Well, to be honest, the players that have been around a long time know that SOE has more than delivered when it comes to EQ2; far and above other games out there that came out at the same time *cough* WoW. There has been FAR more new content in this game than any other, and there has been NOTHING that SOE has said or done to indicate that will be slowing down any time soon! So just relax and enjoy the ride. Plenty is in the pipeline for this game over the next three months and WELL into the future. Their average (see my post above) is running at about 1 new update every 3 weeks or so. That's FAR beyond ANY MMO out there on the market today.I hope you can take this as a positive, constructive post. I'm not dissing or bashing on you per se. Just take a second to think about what everyone is trying to say here. I as a member of the community, appreciate having all players in the community's feedback and appreciate your comments.Just something to consider.<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Armawk]

<cite>Aphlos@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote> And, while I do appreciate thoughts of others, the message was intended for SOE, not other customers.</blockquote>Then you posted in the wrong place, this isnt a feedback system its a discussion forum

[Grimwell]

Easy now gang.Game Updates are not on a set schedule. Yes, they are very predictable and the EQII team has done an amazing job of updating the game on a regular basis. I'm proud to be with them, watching them crank out an expansion at the same time that they are doing the normal update process. It's a LOT of work, and they are delivering.Game Update 38 will be coming <i>Soon(tm)</i>. Your usual harbingers will be the push to Test, the Preview, and the Sneak Peek.When? When it's ready. I trust Scott and the team, you should too! <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />

[Zabjade]

<cite>Grimwell wrote:</cite><blockquote>Easy now gang.Game Updates are not on a set schedule. Yes, they are very predictable and the EQII team has done an amazing job of updating the game on a regular basis. I'm proud to be with them, watching them crank out an expansion at the same time that they are doing the normal update process. It's a LOT of work, and they are delivering.Game Update 38 will be coming <i>Soon(tm)</i>. Your usual harbingers will be the push to Test, the Preview, and the Sneak Peek.When? When it's ready. I trust Scott and the team, you should too! <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></blockquote><p><span style="color: #00cc00;">I..don't...know.... <_<   >_>  They really don't seem to like Monks much... I still take hits <b><u>too hard</u></b> even in a group.</span></p><p><span style="color: #00cc00;">Still I hope they have something interesting for Nights of the dead possibly have it as Bristly's Grand Enterance! lol</span></p>

[Rheem]

As far as I'm concerned, take as much time as you need. Alot is going into the next LU like DW changes and (I beleive) something to do with wearing clothes over armor or some such, DW has been on test for a bit already but there are a lot of little things too, like various bug fixes, that need to be heavily tested in house just to make sure they don't cause even more bugs. And it certainly doesn't help that practically everyone on the team is up to their armpits in work to do for the biggest expansion yet, not to mention a new map system and new skeletal system. They're going to be putting in all nighters for the next three months, the LEAST we can do is cut them some slack (and ofcourse keep giving them money <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> ) But I guess some people cannot be happy and find things to complain about.

[Zarafein]

I'am really looking forward to some of the half-annoucend changes, but there are still some bugs from gu37.. hope they don't carry over into the next one.

[Frigid2000]

I agree. Take your time with it. Absolutely no point in rushing anything.

[Jesdyr]

<cite>Cyque@Everfrost wrote:</cite><blockquote>Take your time with it.</blockquote>Yah .. take your time .. but can you take your time a little faster ? <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[kyrr]

<cite>Rheem@Blackburrow wrote:</cite><blockquote>As far as I'm concerned, take as much time as you need. Alot is going into the next LU like DW changes and (I beleive) something to do with wearing clothes over armor or some such, DW has been on test for a bit already but there are a lot of little things too, like various bug fixes, that need to be heavily tested in house just to make sure they don't cause even more bugs. And it certainly doesn't help that practically everyone on the team is up to their armpits in work to do for the biggest expansion yet, not to mention a new map system and <span style="color: #ccff00;">new skeletal system</span>. They're going to be putting in all nighters for the next three months, the LEAST we can do is cut them some slack (and ofcourse keep giving them money <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" width="15" height="15" /> ) But I guess some people cannot be happy and find things to complain about.</blockquote><p>Wha Wha What????</p><p>There's actually and ETA for this now?  Who said? When'd they say it? Can you quote/link it?</p>

[Moonglu]

<cite>Grimwell wrote:</cite><blockquote>Game Update 38 will be coming <i>Soon(tm)</i>. Your usual harbingers will be the push to Test, the Preview, and the Sneak Peek.</blockquote>Thanks Grimwell.  I think sometimes our thirst for new content dwarfs our common sense.  It must be nice to know you have a community that loves your game this much.  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img mce_tsrc=" />

[Bahann]

Can't wait for LU38.  I hope the finaly put the musical instruments in, and not wait for it later.  If they weren't ready at all why show them to us... the devs taunted us bad with that....  It's like showing a carrot to a rabbit and not giving it to him! It's soooooooooo cruel!  We bards and dirge have been waiting for actual interactive instruments since the start of the game!  It's a torture to wait when we know they have it and are working on it.  But I know it takes time to code.... it's hard being patient!Go DEVs Go!

[Rheem]

<cite>Cixia@Everfrost wrote:</cite><blockquote>Wha Wha What???? <p>There's actually and ETA for this now?  Who said? When'd they say it? Can you quote/link it?</p></blockquote>The Sarnak are already using it, but as far as I know there is no ETA for the other races, but still that's a huge amount of work because you more or less have to redo all the armor and stuff.

[Captain Apple Darkberry]

<cite>Aphlos@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote>I never said SOE has stated they will push an update every month. <b>It's simply something I have come to see as part of the subscription (typical benefit) and if it's not there, the subscription is less appealing.</b> That's all I'm saying. And, while I do appreciate thoughts of others, the message was intended for SOE, not other customers.</blockquote><span style="color: #ff3300;">'So...   ...someone pointed out how you have actually received 5 more updates than what you paid for" as "part of your subscription" and yet this is your reply?  Sometimes you just need to man up and say "Looks like I was wrong, sorry." as by your expectations you owe them...Edit to stay on topic:  BRISTLEBANE FTW!!!</span>

[miliskel]

 *casts time compression on the devs*

[Dendro]

I'm all for introducing new content, new world events, etc.  And certainly bugs should be fixed and balance issues addressed. But that does not mean we need a new GU every 4 weeks.  If SOE kept changing my spells, my weapons, my AAs every month <i>that </i>would make me upset.

[ke'la]

<cite>Zabjade wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Grimwell wrote:</cite><blockquote>Easy now gang.Game Updates are not on a set schedule. Yes, they are very predictable and the EQII team has done an amazing job of updating the game on a regular basis. I'm proud to be with them, watching them crank out an expansion at the same time that they are doing the normal update process. It's a LOT of work, and they are delivering.Game Update 38 will be coming <i>Soon(tm)</i>. Your usual harbingers will be the push to Test, the Preview, and the Sneak Peek.When? When it's ready. I trust Scott and the team, you should too! <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></blockquote><p><span style="color: #00cc00;">I..don't...know.... <_<   >_>  They really don't seem to like Monks much... I still take hits <b><u>too hard</u></b> even in a group.</span></p><p><span style="color: #00cc00;">Still I hope they have something interesting for Nights of the dead possibly have it as Bristly's Grand Enterance! lol</span></p></blockquote>I can't beleave I didn't think about that, Oct 31st is befor Mid-Nov. Bristlbane is comeing befor RoK(mid-Nov). Nights of the Dead is probly Bristly's second favorate day(the one named after him is most likly his favorate) I could definatly see, him making his grand enterance on that day.

[betatester7]

Hello all and devs,I think we can be polite and ask <span style="color: #0066ff;">"Dear Devs, do you have any timeline or at least any date for the LU38?</span>"<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />with a good manner, maybe the devs are really busy, but very busy, that they can say to us: <span style="color: #ff3300;">"don't desperate, we're working, this is something that worth the wait"</span> <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/2e207fad049d4d292f60607f80f05768.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /> or something like that.Well anyway, this is a nice community and EQ2 is a nice game, soonish<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/0320a00cb4bb5629ab9fc2bc1fcc4e9e.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /> or later they have to publish LU38, and 39 and 40 and so on.best regards,

[travelerb8]

<cite>Aphlos@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote>I never said SOE has stated they will push an update every month. It's simply something I have come to see as part of the subscription (typical benefit) and if it's not there, the subscription is less appealing. That's all I'm saying. And, while I do appreciate thoughts of others, the message was intended for SOE, not other customers.</blockquote>GU 37 went live on July 31.  September 1-3 is a long weekend/holiday.  If it goes live the first week of September, it won't be that far off of once per month.  You are talking about a few business days off of once per month.  It'll be ok.

[Novusod]

The thing is LU38 has not even hit the Test server yet and there are only 2 more days left in August. It could update tomorrow but I would not count on it. If LU38 goes to test on September 1 then I don't see how it will be going live before September 10th. It you think about it this will be the last major update before RoK so they need to get this right so I don't really mind the delays. My guess is LU38 on September 10th followed by LU39 on October 15th or so. This will then match up for the massive update which is RoK around November 15th or so.

[Wingrider01]

<cite>Novusod wrote:</cite><blockquote>The thing is LU38 has not even hit the Test server yet and there are only 2 more days left in August. It could update tomorrow but I would not count on it. If LU38 goes to test on September 1 then I don't see how it will be going live before September 10th. It you think about it this will be the last major update before RoK so they need to get this right so I don't really mind the delays. My guess is LU38 on September 10th followed by LU39 on October 15th or so. This will then match up for the massive update which is RoK around November 15th or so.</blockquote>Looks like it hit the test server today - least I suspect those test server notes that where recently posted relate to LU38

[Catria]

<cite>Wingrider01 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Novusod wrote:</cite><blockquote>The thing is LU38 has not even hit the Test server yet and there are only 2 more days left in August. It could update tomorrow but I would not count on it. If LU38 goes to test on September 1 then I don't see how it will be going live before September 10th. It you think about it this will be the last major update before RoK so they need to get this right so I don't really mind the delays. My guess is LU38 on September 10th followed by LU39 on October 15th or so. This will then match up for the massive update which is RoK around November 15th or so.</blockquote>Looks like it hit the test server today - least I suspect those test server notes that where recently posted relate to LU38</blockquote>Yup, I think so to.  They are patching Test as we speak and thre are several pages worth of update notes I just printed off.

[Pins]

<cite>DerykRenaln wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Aphlos@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote>I'm not saying this to whine and I really just intend it to be feedback for SOE, not to use it as leverage or anything... but I am giving great consideration to closing my account for a bit, and if LU's can't occur reliably once a month (give or take a fews days), I don't know if I'll resubscribe. It's only one station access account, not much in SOE's bottom line. I realize that, and it's not about that. I just see regular LU's as part of the built in value of my subscription and feel like I'm getting less than my money's worth in cases such as this.</blockquote><p>Consider this:Game went LIVE: 11/04Now: 08/07Doing the math: That's 32 months...let's even add a month for kicks 'n grins: 33 monthsThere have been 37 updates, 3 Adventure Packs, 3 Expansions: 43 updates to the game in 33 months!Do I need say more?</p></blockquote>Actually, adventure packs and expansions usually coincide with updates, so there has only been 37 big updates including adventure packs and expansions.

[Zarafein]

Hm no fluff armor slots? also just a fix for ranger poison aa, although 2 swashbuckler aa are bugged as well.

[Safana.]

Armor slots for appereance only are in now. You can equip any item you can wear (due to class restriction) in the 7 Armor and the cloak slot. Other slots are not equipable for appereance. (such as weapons)

[Cerios]

Why no slot for weapons, for me personally the weapons are easily the biggest appearance issue. In particular how phenomenally ugly some of the SOD and Claymore rewards are.

[miliskel]

because u cant cover a weapon with a club can u...u  can put plate over plate or a robe over a vestbut u cant change ur weapon from a 20foot long claymore(<img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />) to a 2inch dagger..

[EvilIguana9]

<cite>Safana@Valor wrote:</cite><blockquote>Armor slots for appereance only are in now. You can equip any item you can wear (due to class restriction) in the 7 Armor and the cloak slot. Other slots are not equipable for appereance. (such as weapons)</blockquote>Really?  I just logged into pvp_test(currently a pve test server to which one can be testcopied to try out the weapon changes) with my testcopied character and saw nothing about this in the notes or anywhere in game.  How does one access this feature?

[Zarafein]

If you are level +20 you get a little button called appearance in the upper part of you inventory window.

[Novusod]

You can access this feature by going to your inventory window and clicking on new the "<span class="postbody">Appereance" tab at the top. I really think people should be testing this out before jumping to all kinds of conclusions.</span>

[xpraetorianx]

<cite>Aphlos@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote>I'm not saying this to whine and I really just intend it to be feedback for SOE, not to use it as leverage or anything... but I am giving great consideration to closing my account for a bit, and if LU's can't occur reliably once a month (give or take a fews days), I don't know if I'll resubscribe. It's only one station access account, not much in SOE's bottom line. I realize that, and it's not about that. I just see regular LU's as part of the built in value of my subscription and feel like I'm getting less than my money's worth in cases such as this.</blockquote>Listen to this guy.... hes getting a LU with a new diety quest... a brand new expansion and he says if it cant happen on HIS timetable hes closing his account..  Thats gratitude for ya...Ill give ya a hand... go ahead close your account because no one will miss you.  bye bye.

[Jesdyr]

<cite>EvilIguana966 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite></cite>Really?  I just logged into pvp_test</blockquote>PvP servers will not have this enabled. <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?start=30&topic_id=378984" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=378984</a>

[Jeridor]

<p>Grimwell: <u>Thanks for the update</u>. It sounds like LU38 will be a good one. All I was seeking was what you provided.</p><p>Several others: Thank you for misconstruing my comments in every possible way. Despite my attempts to simply convey my desires as but one customer in a sea of many -- not threaten or demand anything -- just express my views, you have taken this opportunity to turn everything I said into the exact opposite.</p><p>I have played EQ2 on and off since the day it opened. I have been a very loyal SOE customer, I have constantly tried to attract friends to the game. My post was not in any way intended to push SOE's hand. You might have noticed I didn't throw in any dates, I didn't say do this or I'll do that. I didn't stipulate something I wanted to see in LU38 (though I have in posts in other threads, I clearly have hopes - don't we all?). In other words there is simply nothing more I could have said to make my desire for a LU around once a month less controversial or less demanding. I didn't insult SOE, I didn't even flame the many people who were quite insulting to me for expressing my thoughts. I don't know exactly what you're hoping to see in someone who actually wants something from SOE, but I think I was very nice in how I asked, and I am being very nice and civil right now.</p><p>P.S. I realize this isn't a personal feedback system and everything I say is subject to other player's comments. I am not immune to criticism. However, I would have hoped more people would be as civil as I have been here. I am courteous to you, am I in the wrong if you're not courteous to me?</p>

[Cerios]

<cite>miliskel wrote:</cite><blockquote>because u cant cover a weapon with a club can u...u  can put plate over plate or a robe over a vestbut u cant change ur weapon from a 20foot long claymore(<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" />) to a 2inch dagger..</blockquote>Ya because it will be incredibly realistic when my paladin wheres a different shiny suit of plate armor over the suit I am wearing underneath and receives no modifiers for it. This change is about maintaining the appearance you want, for me the biggest part of that is the weapon. I don't want my character using a god awful ugly hammer, I don't see how thats significantly different then the fact that I don't want him wearing a giant [Removed for Content] helmet with giant [Removed for Content] wings.

[LordDarthKhan]

<cite>Cerios wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>miliskel wrote:</cite><blockquote>because u cant cover a weapon with a club can u...u  can put plate over plate or a robe over a vestbut u cant change ur weapon from a 20foot long claymore(<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img mce_tsrc=" />" /&gt<img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> to a 2inch dagger..</blockquote>Ya because it will be incredibly realistic when my paladin wheres a different shiny suit of plate armor over the suit I am wearing underneath and receives no modifiers for it. This change is about maintaining the appearance you want, for me the biggest part of that is the weapon. I don't want my character using a god awful ugly hammer, I don't see how thats significantly different then the fact that I don't want him wearing a giant [I cannot control my vocabulary] helmet with giant [I cannot control my vocabulary] wings.</blockquote>I have to agree, there are some nice looking weapons at all level that for a reason or another players are fond to, if the fluff thing can be made for armors and cloaks it shouldn't be that complicated for weapons.Beside, really, stop saying realistic when you talk about MMORPGs, or video games in general... we go arounds with 6 backpacks (I use strongboxes but that's beside the point) full of sets of armors, weapons and all sort of things that it should take a chart to bring around all those stuffs. We have some classes that can jump down from bloody mountains without truble... come on give it a break lol

[DerykRenaln]

<p><a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/news_archive_content.vm?id=1305" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://eq2players.station.sony.com/...tent.vm?id=1305</a>That's the link for GU38 Preview!<a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=379847" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=379847</a>That's the link for the forum notes for Test Center for Thursday August 30, 2007. Even more GU38 updates!Looking forward to it!</p>

[Novusod]

I wonder if this update will go live this week or sometime after the 10th or later as in my original speculation.The arguements made over this update and there were a lot of them have all seemed to have run their course.

[Lodrelhai]

<cite>Novusod wrote:</cite><blockquote>I wonder if this update will go live this week or sometime after the 10th or later as in my original speculation.The arguements made over this update and there were a lot of them have all seemed to have run their course.</blockquote><p>I think they've only "run their course" because we've had several days with little to no official response to them, possibly because of the holiday weekend.  There's only so many ways and times people can complain about the wide and varied nerfs being enacted, plus the non-feature that is practically useless as implemented, without some kind of feedback.</p><p>Don't get me wrong, the Devs have a damned hard job, and with RoK coming up I'm sure they're being run ragged as it is.  If they got an extra day off to relax, more power to them.  Still, there is more than a little feeling of shouting into the void around here the past few days, and I hope we have some sort of official response on these issues soon.</p>