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Phaseo
08-22-2007, 12:22 AM
Can a SK solo the entire nest including the last boss? Thanks

HentaiB
08-22-2007, 01:04 AM
Have not tried recently.  But power on the last boss was a issue before.  Guess if you used power roots or the Innouruk power miracle would be pretty easy.

Harduc
08-22-2007, 04:47 AM
I havent even tried myself, but i read that a good strategy would be to kill the pet first then FD and take him out after. But I still think it would take some pretty good gear and a whole lot of luck to do it.

Hamervelder
08-22-2007, 07:50 AM
Maybe if the SK were wearing all fabled, had all masters, an outstanding weapon, and some miracles/potions/totems/items to help out.

DwarvesR
08-22-2007, 08:26 AM
Atelos@Antonia Bayle wrote: <blockquote>Maybe if the SK were wearing all fabled, had all masters, an outstanding weapon, and some miracles/potions/totems/items to help out. </blockquote> There's an SK in my guild who farms Nest daily.  He's in all fabled, has nearly all masters and the rest ad3, and some really nice weapons.  Not sure on the totems and miracles.  But yah. . . to him it's cake.

Dead Knight
08-22-2007, 08:33 AM
I did it yesterday, just use a Miracle on Chamberlain X'Haviz.

CHIMPNOODLE.
08-22-2007, 09:32 AM
Can be done ya.

Harduc
08-22-2007, 10:06 AM
<p>Isnt it quite expensive to use a Miracle for the loot you get in return? (if you sacrificed the loot you got, you wouldn get anywhere near the amount of points you spend on the miracle?)</p><p>EDIT: and hmmm... must try this one day and see how far i can go <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

CHIMPNOODLE.
08-22-2007, 01:12 PM
<p>Depends on the Altar you have...but my Top tier Miracles are around 1300 to 1500 Favor. For T7 treasured items to lesser legendary items I get around 130 to 365 Favor sacrificing them....whereas they sell to the vendor for around 4 gold to 13 gold (avg around 7-9). Even if only 1 master drops through the run (more often off the Chamberlain)...but I've had 3 drop over the run before....usually the <b>worst</b> one sells for 1.5 to 2.5 plat. Some can go 4 to 12 (or more if you get a really hot one). I find it's worth using a Miracle for that chance. Even if you have a bad run, you still get the treasured/legendary that drops from the named on the way up...pretty much offsets the favor cost (plus adepts and trash loot over the run).</p><p>I have been duoing the Nest with either an Assassin or a Necro lately though....it's super fast and I don't waste god favor. 50-50 chance on any master and we're done in no time <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />. Don't even need to us Touch or Divine Aura duoing. Last night with the assasin...Chamberlin died so fast I don't even think I had to use more than a blessing once, a couple fetid Smites and some Putrid Coils. The assassin parsed around 1800 and me around 550 only that time. Quick and easy.</p>

Gutwren
08-22-2007, 11:36 PM
<p>I farm it daily on my Fury.... (no special stuff required~)</p><p>Usually get atleast 1 master... figure that would be enough to sell and cover whatever god points you need, and more.</p>

CHIMPNOODLE.
08-23-2007, 08:58 AM
Top geared SKs won't need any "special stuff" in that zone either actually. The cost of one is more than offset with even 1 master drop though....and often offset even without one.

Beldin_
08-23-2007, 09:42 AM
<cite>CHIMPNOODLE. wrote:</cite><blockquote>Top geared SKs won't need any "special stuff" in that zone either actually. The cost of one is more than offset with even 1 master drop though....and often offset even without one.</blockquote><p>I tried X'Haviz pre EoF once without a healer, just a Necro for help .. but no chance .. he killed me in 30-40 seconds i think <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p><p>For masterdrops .. i think you can be happy to get 1 master out of 5 runs .. ok maybe the Robe from X'Haviz drops a little more often <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p>

CHIMPNOODLE.
08-23-2007, 11:33 AM
<p>Hard to say why. Last 2 times I went through Duo (both were this week)....once was with a Necro once with an Assassin. </p><p>Master dropped with the Necro...was a semi tough fight but the Necro got killed mid-fight from AOE (he was low in resists).....so I finished off the Chamberlain alone. </p><p>With the assassin Duo....my health never even moved. No master dropped....won the Gloves though.</p><p>Neither fight needed any special extras....on the assassin fight, didn't even use Touch or DA.</p><p>Soloing the Chamberlain is very tough for SKs, but can be done.....duoing is extremely doable, healer or no. The variables are always there though so hard to say why some have trouble and others no. Bad luck RNG, lower resists, bad timing on stuns, diff gear/spell qualities?....dunno.</p>

Beldin_
08-23-2007, 01:14 PM
<cite>CHIMPNOODLE. wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>With the assassin Duo....my health never even moved. No master dropped....won the Gloves though.</p><p>Soloing the Chamberlain is very tough for SKs, but can be done.....duoing is extremely doable, healer or no. The variables are always there though so hard to say why some have trouble and others no. Bad luck RNG, lower resists, bad timing on stuns, diff gear/spell qualities?....dunno.</p></blockquote><p>I think you're also full EoF fabled, and not just in a mix of legendary and some KoS fabled that i could happily get at the broker <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> My spells were already mostly master 1 at that time.</p><p>I also must say i never tried him after EoF without a healer, maybe reaver would help more, and also important i think is to have cure-potions for his dot with no healer. </p>

DMIstar
08-23-2007, 10:16 PM
Everything in Nest Besides Chamberlain and Kettler Can be done with regular Gear.. Its a nice zone to try out new things and get things down solo.. If you fail the first times just pick up and try a different strat though once you have it down you will be fine.I'm full Offensive Specced, Gear and all. But i dont see how it would be to hard for medium geared/specced sk to go through... Kettler Is the first real hard hitting Named in there.. I Havent Defeated him without a maricle... Offensive wise need him dead in under a minute. Or I do keep a suit of tank gear, But normally run out of mana on him, but he never gets me past green till OOM ;/...Chamberlain Is much harder, Realy do to the spike damage hits he pulls off.. again Tank gear I keep at yellow in health till oom pretty fine. though offensively to much damage he does off i normally get him to 50-40percent left in health. (no maricles, wont waste them unless i know it will directly succed) But Stop farming zone just for those two is silly, just kill everything else and your fine. Most the time a guildie is on and will dou the chamberlain easy since he only thing left in zone.

Beldin_
08-24-2007, 06:44 AM
<cite>Bloodravenger@Mistmoore wrote:</cite><blockquote>I Havent Defeated him without a maricle... Offensive wise need him dead in under a minute. </blockquote><p>Yeah .. under a minute without miracles is hardly possible. Solo i only did the first 3 nameds from time to time, and i think i normally need around 4 minutes for the Rezhirz, and i constantly have to use mana-stone and mana-sieve when up, else i mainly only use blessing and sacrament after the initial burst AoEs to kill the adds, and try to hold my mana on the same percentage then his life.</p><p>On one of my very first trys it looked like that (and yeah i need def-stance for him, very first try in off-stance i had to evac) :</p><p><img src="http://beldin.be.funpic.de/eq2/EQ2_000220.jpg" alt="" width="1269" height="968" border="0" /></p><p>Yeah burned too much mana too fast, so in the end it looked like that </p><p><img src="http://beldin.be.funpic.de/eq2/EQ2_000221.jpg" alt="" width="1269" height="968" border="0" /></p>

Dead Knight
08-24-2007, 07:22 AM
<cite>Shalla@Valor wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Bloodravenger@Mistmoore wrote:</cite><blockquote>I Havent Defeated him without a maricle... Offensive wise need him dead in under a minute. </blockquote><p>Yeah .. under a minute without miracles is hardly possible. Solo i only did the first 3 nameds from time to time, and i think i normally need around 4 minutes for the Rezhirz, and i constantly have to use mana-stone and mana-sieve when up, else i mainly only use blessing and sacrament after the initial burst AoEs to kill the adds, and try to hold my mana on the same percentage then his life.</p><p>On one of my very first trys it looked like that (and yeah i need def-stance for him, very first try in off-stance i had to evac) :</p><p><img src="http://beldin.be.funpic.de/eq2/EQ2_000220.jpg" border="0" alt="" width="1269" height="968" /></p><p>Yeah burned too much mana too fast, so in the end it looked like that </p><p><img src="http://beldin.be.funpic.de/eq2/EQ2_000221.jpg" border="0" alt="" width="1269" height="968" /></p></blockquote>Wow, lol.

DMIstar
08-24-2007, 08:34 PM
<i>"Yeah .. under a minute without miracles is hardly possible. Solo i only did the first 3 nameds from time to time, and i think i normally need around 4 minutes for the Rezhirz, and i constantly have to use mana-stone and mana-sieve when up, else i mainly only use blessing and sacrament after the initial burst AoEs to kill the adds, and try to hold my mana on the same percentage then his life.On one of my very first trys it looked like that (and yeah i need def-stance for him, very first try in off-stance i had to evac) :"</i>Ohh Geez talk about takeing something out of context then trying it out just to make it further out of context .... Firstly that was what "I" Needed  .. not you.. Secondly Comparison wise your misseing alot on stats and doing the wrong mob, the Mob that you did do is not that hard.. and quite frankly does a bit more Damage in  the beginning rounds then the chamberlain.. thoug h tap veins works  wonders.... With your setup, make sure your doing correct chain casting line and keep blessings up. But compareing Me to you is way off balance.. Though he is able to be done and farmed.Ohh i do kill him in offensive stance easier then def stance.Typical parse on mob above only:Allies: (01:31) 121110 | 1330.88 [Istar-slash-2042]Istar 121110 | 1330.88Istar's nefarious sacrament 0 | 0.00Kettlers Typical Parse (which im normaly have to use maricle on)  Allies: (01:32) 125358 | 1362.59 [Istar-Incinerate-21731]Istar 125358 | 1362.59Istar's nefarious sacrament 0 | 0.00<i>*and disclaimer so nobody gets wrong idea.. I cannot raid tank in this setup/gear i sac all tank stats for this Gear compilation is mainly KoS.</i>

Beldin_
08-25-2007, 03:01 AM
<cite>Bloodravenger@Mistmoore wrote:</cite><blockquote>Firstly that was what "I" Needed  .. not you.. Secondly Comparison wise your misseing alot on stats and </blockquote><p>Not everyone runs around in full fabled, and the question was if an SK can do the Nest, but not if an SK with full Avatar-Gear or whatever can do it.</p><p>So yeah .. i believe everyone in full fabled can do it, however i just talk for the people who are maybe not raiding <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p><p>Parse for the mob above two-boxing with my fury :</p><p>Allies: (01:40) 123353 | 1233,53 [Lorna-Donnerblitz-3621]Shalla 92495 | 924,95Lorna 30858 | 308,58Feuerring des Lorna 0 | 0,00</p><p>If i solo him my DPS goes down to 600 or whatever, because else i run OOM <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p>

DMIstar
08-25-2007, 03:11 AM
Not even full fabled and have master crafted.. tank gear is mainly legendary.. Since when did i say i was full fabled ?

Beldin_
08-25-2007, 04:48 AM
<cite>Bloodravenger@Mistmoore wrote:</cite><blockquote>Not even full fabled and have master crafted.. tank gear is mainly legendary.. Since when did i say i was full fabled ?</blockquote><p>Puhh .. ok .. then 1330dps is really quite impressiv <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />.  How you do so much more DPS, please tell me your trick <img src="http://lenz2u.de/portal/images/smiles/anbet2.gif" alt="" width="27" height="22" border="0" /></p><p>Btw.: i have all spells as master except agony i think</p>

IxothImhotep
08-27-2007, 08:22 AM
What miracles do you suggest of using ? my sk's deity is chaciz-thule (sp?)

Tasmai
08-27-2007, 04:57 PM
Get reaver. Use potions. Also notice your mana sieve isnt greyed out. it should always be greyed out, same with blessing and siphon str and despoil. Pull with a hex doll.No reason any sk with at least mastercrafted/legendary shouldnt be able to solo the entire zone. I was doing it before eof. With eof aa's and gear (even legendary gear) it's trivial.<cite>Shalla@Valor wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Bloodravenger@Mistmoore wrote:</cite><blockquote>Not even full fabled and have master crafted.. tank gear is mainly legendary.. Since when did i say i was full fabled ?</blockquote><p>Puhh .. ok .. then 1330dps is really quite impressiv <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />.  How you do so much more DPS, please tell me your trick <img src="http://lenz2u.de/portal/images/smiles/anbet2.gif" border="0" alt="" width="27" height="22" /></p><p>Btw.: i have all spells as master except agony i think</p></blockquote>

DMIstar
08-28-2007, 01:39 PM
<cite>Ixoth@Runnyeye wrote:</cite><blockquote>What miracles do you suggest of using ? my sk's deity is chaciz-thule (sp?)</blockquote><p>I was CT, I used the thorns one and ids release.. THe only two i thought was best out of all of them... Though sometimes used the pet one... </p><p>as for the above...  Im farming the zone.. and not wanting to spend money it. So normally skip kettler... Though with legendary KoS armor only Im kinda skeptical of the last guy being soloed with that. Esp with the lack of additional AAs and such... IF this was true im sure SoE would of revamped the mob. </p><p>Shalla, get a parser, and practice on the regular mobs in there, its a great testing ground, I dont think with your setup you could get the same numbers but you should be able to get a bit more. Suggestions... Grave blessings, pull with pet when can or hex doll with nameds, and do all dots .... everyone from death circe to insidouse (yes its a dot) always keep them up, other stuff do in between.  </p>

Beldin_
08-28-2007, 01:57 PM
<cite>Bloodravenger@Mistmoore wrote:</cite><blockquote>Shalla, get a parser, and practice on the regular mobs in there, its a great testing ground, I dont think with your setup you could get the same numbers but you should be able to get a bit more. Suggestions... Grave blessings, pull with pet when can or hex doll with nameds, and do all dots .... everyone from death circe to insidouse (yes its a dot) always keep them up, other stuff do in between.  </blockquote><p>Biggest problem i see is that i run out of mana when the mob has still 40-50% life if i throw all in. The regular mobs and the first named are no Problem, but the it begin with the second. </p><p>However .. i never uses the Vessel of Fyr'Un .. since you had to equip it, is it now possible to macro that, and is it worth using it ?</p><p>And what especially do you mean with my setup .. ok you have 100 str more .. but i can't think that makes such a big difference.</p><p>Hm.. ok .. i never had luck till now with the Signet of Light from Darkness <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

CHIMPNOODLE.
08-28-2007, 02:54 PM
<p>The lvl 52 Guild Signets work wonders too on those mana intensive fights....[Signet of Replenishment], [Signet of Ethereal Form], etc...</p>

branvil
08-29-2007, 10:58 AM
sorry if this is a bad question.  Do you guys use sword and board for this? 

Dead Knight
08-30-2007, 05:38 PM
If you aren't breaking 1k on a green mob, I'd be worried.