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edgrimly78
08-20-2007, 01:26 PM
I just looted the master version of this spell.  I guess I never really used any of the same below it either.  Any advice on when and how it is best used?  ie, when the someone is going down fast and I cant get to them fast enough? 

RogueSpideyChick
08-20-2007, 01:50 PM
one of the most important spells when raidin especially if ur in mt or ot groups. when they tank looks like theyre goin down or spikin in health, pop that when theyre gettin into the dark orange/red. saves them & gives ya coupla extra secs to pop off some heals to bring them back up

Ferunnia
08-20-2007, 02:31 PM
I use it for soloing named as well. And back in the day when I raided with tanks that weren't all that wonderfully geared I'd pop it before the pull just in case.

edgrimly78
08-20-2007, 06:55 PM
So the duration of the spell has to be pretty decent if you are casting it before the pull.  I am at work so cant really look in game, is there a screenie of the spell's card that someone would be nice enough to post?

DarrkElf
08-21-2007, 12:07 AM
<p>Feral Potence is useful:</p><p>a) If you are ever in the raid main tank group (rare) to cast on main tank as a last hope if he's getting the crap kicked out of him.</p><p>b) If you are in a group and the tank is taking a beating.</p><p>I very rarely bother using it solo, and other than if I'm in the main tank group I never use it in raids because it is restricted to group only.</p><p>It can be handy, but the opportunities to use it are fairly limited.  </p>

HBP
08-21-2007, 03:55 AM
<p>I also use it on the Necro when he/she Lifeburns.  I'm never in the MT/OT group and normally grouped with a Necro.  So, I might as find some use for it..lol.  I don't worry about the 15 min recast timer because in raids, 15 min goes by really quick.</p>

Rutabegah
08-21-2007, 05:14 AM
It's the 3rd most useless spell furies have.

sokil
08-21-2007, 10:41 PM
I do not know what server you are on but  I use it in every solo pvp fight. Feral potence, elixur of thorns, hibernation are 3 of the most useful items in solo pvo adn save me against pvp spike damage most of the time. In pve, not sure. Never used it except to save a tank which is always appreciated.

Menaelin
08-21-2007, 11:09 PM
Here's my take on Feral Potence: If you're in a single group and you're healing an instance or something like that, it has a good chance of saving a group member's life. Similarly, if you're in a raid and you cast it on a non-MT in order to keep them from dying due to an AoE or something like that, it has a chance of being effective. But I'm sorry, casting Feral Potence on a raid MT as a last ditch effort to keep them alive is going to fail 99% of the time. The heal ticks just aren't fast/big enough to withstand the damage of an epic mob directly attacking the MT.

Ferunnia
08-22-2007, 07:55 AM
Well, It has like 30 or 45 seconds timer, it think, for the person who asked... For the person saying you can't save the tank with it...does every healing class have a single target emergency heal with no cast timer? I've watched a tank's hp go from the negatives to 11k in about 2 seconds before. Because one of the healers used a version of this spell, and a crapload of heals that people were in the middle of went off because it gave them the extra second or two to finish casting. It's free to cast and has no cast time, nothing I can really complain about. Do wish it buffed something besides agi, or gave a damage shield or something, though.

xandez
08-22-2007, 08:39 AM
yah, all healers have an emergency "heal" mystics have instant ward (no power cost) etc... instant heal is always nice, even with longer recast it can really save some fights. ++Xan

Menaelin
08-22-2007, 11:24 AM
<cite>Ferunnia wrote:</cite><blockquote>Well, It has like 30 or 45 seconds timer, it think, for the person who asked... For the person saying you can't save the tank with it...does every healing class have a single target emergency heal with no cast timer? I've watched a tank's hp go from the negatives to 11k in about 2 seconds before. Because one of the healers used a version of this spell, and a crapload of heals that people were in the middle of went off because it gave them the extra second or two to finish casting. It's free to cast and has no cast time, nothing I can really complain about. Do wish it buffed something besides agi, or gave a damage shield or something, though. </blockquote> I'm not saying you can't save a tank with it. I'm saying that a raid MT is going to need several miracles to coincide in order for Feral Potence to have any real effect while an epic mob is beating him down to nothing. In my experience, it doesn't even give people an "extra second or two" to get their heals off. The ticks are simply too far apart on it (2 seconds, I believe). I feel like, if Feral Potence is going to be a real emergency ability, it should tick every .5 seconds and perhaps have a longer cooldown timer. What you described appears to be one of those miraculous moments, but 99% of situations don't go that way. An emergency heal should ensure one of those miraculous situations as far as I'm concerned. Don't get me wrong, I'll cast it if I have no other options and the raid MT is going down, but I don't have any illusions about it saving the day. I think I've seen it work once, and I can't even be sure of that since the tank may just have gotten some mega heals while in the blue just before dying. In any case, our single target and group e-heals are far better than Feral Potence will ever be. I save tanks from fatal spike damage (or when other healers lose line of sight on pull for some reason) with those all the time.