Playstation 3 port

[lancekortesoja]

I've read somewhere about devs talking about playstation 3 and having eq2 ported there I forgot what there answer was tho, although this could be a great idea as Eq2 could fit onto a blu ray disc I would happily buy this even if it was priced at 59.99 you can already plug a usb mouse and keyboard into the playstation 3 so there is no need for different gameplay via the controller edit: this would be a great way to get new players into the game to as there is over 4 million ps3 owners ( I belive

[Drager]

this would be great but its like the rumors with the psp i think would love to see but not really going to happen i think as for the ps3 there are really 4 million sellers just people still trying to get ride of htese things

[lancekortesoja]

The ps3 should be able to handle the power of eq2 max settings?

[Drager]

if they can and they make it im getting a ps3 if they can get the game to run perfect on the ps3 with top grapics and i mean perfect has to be 0 lag that would bring so many people

[Calris]

Dragonfighter@Oasis wrote: <blockquote>I've read somewhere about devs talking about playstation 3 and having eq2 ported there I forgot what there answer was tho, although this could be a great idea as Eq2 could fit onto a blu ray disc I would happily buy this even if it was priced at 59.99 you can already plug a usb mouse and keyboard into the playstation 3 so there is no need for different gameplay via the controller edit: this would be a great way to get new players into the game to as there is over 4 million ps3 owners ( I belive </blockquote> A bit of a sidetrack, but I have to wonder...why do people try to fool themselves? Consoles are basically PCs now. :p

[SaeriBr]

<p>Wow, this is a great Idea!  Lets open up Eq2 to those knobhead kids without Credit Cards....cant wait.</p><p>Oh and lets not forget how even more dumbed down SoE will have to make Eq2 so it will work on a axis gamepad.  Mensa have to get thier arses on this forum, some real clever people that they must meet on here.</p>

[Rolande']

<cite>SaeriBrae wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Wow, this is a great Idea!  Lets open up Eq2 to those knobhead kids without Credit Cards....cant wait.</p><p>Oh and lets not forget how even more dumbed down SoE will have to make Eq2 so it will work on a axis gamepad.  Mensa have to get thier arses on this forum, some real clever people that they must meet on here.</p></blockquote>  Obviously you didnt bother reading the post. As someone stated, the PS3 can have a mouse and keyboard. So there would be no need for changes for a gamepad.

[Darkmasterplan]

No, i doubt they will do it. Everquest would be to difficult to use with a controller inless they brought out a mouse/keyboard. But it does sound cool, everquest 2 in HD anyone?

[xOnaton1]

It's very, very unlikely since the entire client engine would have to be rewritten for the PS3. SOE's future games (The Agency, DC Universe, and Free Realms) are being built on the Unreal Engine 3 and will run on PCs and the PS3. I don't think it has been stated if PC and console players will share servers or not. Othesus - Dirge - Lucan DLere Vaspar - Fury - Lucan DLere

[Wilde_Night]

Calris@Antonia Bayle wrote: <blockquote>Dragonfighter@Oasis wrote: <blockquote>I've read somewhere about devs talking about playstation 3 and having eq2 ported there I forgot what there answer was tho, although this could be a great idea as Eq2 could fit onto a blu ray disc I would happily buy this even if it was priced at 59.99 you can already plug a usb mouse and keyboard into the playstation 3 so there is no need for different gameplay via the controller edit: this would be a great way to get new players into the game to as there is over 4 million ps3 owners ( I belive </blockquote> A bit of a sidetrack, but I have to wonder...why do people try to fool themselves? Consoles are basically PCs now. :p </blockquote> Consoles will never be as good as PC's, unless you count the MacIntosh PC's.  Non-Apple computers can be upgraded manually and constantly growing in capability.  Consoles and Apple PC's must be traded in fully every time a new 'model' comes out to compete.

[Chondrichtheyia]

Even if it were technologically possible (which I doubt since both the PS3 and the X360 have very little ram), I don't think I'd ever want to interact with the console crowd. If you think chat in WoW is bad, try talking to people on XBox Live... <img src="/smilies/e78feac27fa924c4d0ad6cf5819f3554.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Norrsken]

<cite>SaeriBrae wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Wow, this is a great Idea!  Lets open up Eq2 to those knobhead kids without Credit Cards....cant wait.</p><p>Oh and lets not forget how even more dumbed down SoE will have to make Eq2 so it will work on a axis gamepad.  Mensa have to get thier arses on this forum, some real clever people that they must meet on here.</p></blockquote>OMG? Mensa? I'd rather they stay away honestly. More selfrighteous bunch of people is hard to find.

[Pellinor]

<p>Indeed, porting it to ps3 will require to redo all of the programming.</p><p>And second of all..how the hell do you ever, ever want to get such a large scale mmorpg running on a console.</p><p>I know there are a few mmorpg's out there on xbox..but they are not really to call "large scale". </p><p>I don't believe that at the moment any console will have the strength to parse all those network events.</p><p>For [I cannot control my vocabulary] Sake, keep computer and console seperated, we all know that in future due the new XNA framework microsoft (capitalistic pigs!) will have both a pc version and a xbox version of their games (did you know that pc gamers have to pay xbox live to play online with those computer games!), but do you think pc gamers will ever appreciate this? really, that would be "dumbing down" pc gaming. I enjoy pc games just because they have alot more options.. console games can be fun, but you can't compare it with pc gaming.. and absolutly not mix it.</p>

[Flipmode]

Console players play MMOs too.  But most folks are right in stating that EQ2 would need a rewrite of code to work on the PS3.  Its also not fair to compare the PS3s tech stats to modern PCs.  Most PCs require the insane stats not due to graphics requirements but because of the bloat of the OS (looking at you windows).  Consoles do not have thatbaggage and thus are able to perform similar to PCs on a graphical level with less.  Yeah the RAM would still be an issue for stuff like zoning and what not but the PS3s GPU should not be an issue and if programmed to use cells power, they may have an ADVANTAGE in the CPU area. My first MMO was EQOA on the PS2.  Even with a controller and keyboard, I had a blast.  But yeah, the community sucked cause all the 14-18 year old "leet" dude were there.  But, we have plenty of those on EQ2 now dont we.  Nuff said.

[lancekortesoja]

<cite>Chondrichtheyia wrote:</cite><blockquote>Even if it were technologically possible (which I doubt since both the PS3 and the X360 have very little ram), I don't think I'd ever want to interact with the console crowd. If you think chat in WoW is bad, try talking to people on XBox Live... <img src="/smilies/e78feac27fa924c4d0ad6cf5819f3554.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></blockquote>the ps3 has 1 GB of ram (don't quote me there) which should be fine I have 1.5 gb of ram on my computer and eq2 only takes about 500k of it anyway i'm sure most of the playstion 3 crowd is older, parents don't want to pay 599.99 and end up buying the wii or xbox

[Flipmode]

Dragonfighter@Oasis wrote: <blockquote><cite>Chondrichtheyia wrote:</cite><blockquote>Even if it were technologically possible (which I doubt since both the PS3 and the X360 have very little ram), I don't think I'd ever want to interact with the console crowd. If you think chat in WoW is bad, try talking to people on XBox Live... <img src="/smilies/e78feac27fa924c4d0ad6cf5819f3554.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></blockquote>the ps3 has 1 GB of ram (don't quote me there) which should be fine I have 1.5 gb of ram on my computer and eq2 only takes about 500k of it anyway i'm sure most of the playstion 3 crowd is older, parents don't want to pay 599.99 and end up buying the wii or xbox </blockquote> PS3 only has 512 mb of RAM.  256 of main system RAM and 256 RAM on the GPU.  The entire system has access to all the RAM even though its split.  Xbox 360 has 512 mb of RAM also.

[Zard]

<cite>Chondrichtheyia wrote:</cite><blockquote>Even if it were technologically possible (which I doubt since both the PS3 and the X360 have very little ram), I don't think I'd ever want to interact with the console crowd. If you think chat in WoW is bad, try talking to people on XBox Live... <img src="/smilies/e78feac27fa924c4d0ad6cf5819f3554.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></blockquote><p> <b>Age of Conan</b> is supposed to have support for the XBox (360?). It has some very high hardware requirements too, think Oblivion, and will support both DirectX 9 (Windows) and DirectX 10 (Vista).</p><p>I agree with your feelings towards the majority of (not all!) <i>dedicated</i> console gamers and hope they decide to designate a server as either PC or Console and have a few that are mixed.</p>

[AJoS]

Calris@Antonia Bayle wrote: <blockquote>Dragonfighter@Oasis wrote: <blockquote>I've read somewhere about devs talking about playstation 3 and having eq2 ported there I forgot what there answer was tho, although this could be a great idea as Eq2 could fit onto a blu ray disc I would happily buy this even if it was priced at 59.99 you can already plug a usb mouse and keyboard into the playstation 3 so there is no need for different gameplay via the controller edit: this would be a great way to get new players into the game to as there is over 4 million ps3 owners ( I belive </blockquote> A bit of a sidetrack, but I have to wonder...why do people try to fool themselves? Consoles are basically PCs now. :p </blockquote> Console have always been as powerful as PCS in a *snapshot* of time.  PS3/360 etc were fantastic a year or so ago.  The PC I bought early this year (and its not a particularly uber one) just leaves their specs in the dust  though.  The thing with consoles is that their is a guarenteed configuration while with PCs they have to pander to the poor sods still clining onto their 2400+ with 9800 pro (i.e. me a couple of months ago). Another difference is interface.  They keyboard + mouse allows us so much control in EQ2 you wouldn't belive.  Replicate this on a PS3?  Maybe with a keyboard but then they lose the common deonominitor. In short I think you're talking rubbish <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[interstellarmatter]

<p>I didn't know that PS3 used the Windows engine to run software.  I thought that it was a form of Linux.  XBox uses some of the Windows engine.  That's why it's easier to port Windows base software.  You'd don't have to make major changes to the code.  Just little tweaks here and there.</p><p>So, since PS3 doesn't use a Windows engine.  You can count out a PS3 port.  They be better off writing a new game because that would be the work required.</p>

[Ama]

<p>Have a feeling this maybe a rumor and just that.  Heard about other supposed ports of MMOs to consoles yet never saw them follow through with it.  Only game that I know of that has done Computer and Console gaming is FFXI.  EQOA was already on console and if they ported it to computer it maybe an interesting diversion.  </p><p>I have no doubt the PS3 could run graphics settings on Very High Quality or even Max Quality, but the problem would be adaptability.  How would a PS3 version play exactly? On your computer version you have mods for UIs and can create unique little aspects to help yourself out.  </p><p>In EQOA you couldn't do that and about the only thing you could do for help was hooking up a USB keyboard so you could type faster.  Otherwise you had to use pre programmed phrases or pre program them in quickly like Yes, no, Maybe, I don't know, etc... . </p><p>Another problem is you wouldn't have access to the normal hotkey settings.  You got about 5-6 hotkeys to cycle through then an additional one along with a quick item switch bar.  After that you were pretty much SoL and it's why EQOA didn't have many unique spells like EQ2.  Basically you had a group heal, single target heal, single target regen and cures (From my 56 warden in EQOA).  EQ2 would be majorly tuned down to accomidate for people who are not used to the setup imho.  </p><p>If we see a PS3 version it may open things up a bit, but i'm not going to believe this till I see real wording about it. </p>

[Hexen575]

<p>Hehe, keep in mind all that EQ2 was written for Windows PCs. The PS3 does not run a Windows OS therefore would need a full reprogramming. The X360 would be more apt to handle the coding. If they did get it up and running on the PS3, there is no guarentee that PC and PS3 users would be playing together.</p><p>Good thing about the PS3(only real good thing imho) is the Cell CPU. EQ2 is a VERY CPU oriented game, would make nice use of that CPU...but the rest of the hardware might hold back the game a bit.</p>

[Pellinor]

Like most of us claim, keep the mmo gengre to PC. You all know those old machines from back in the nineties standing at cafees with games like super contra III, D&D, .etc.. Well, this is how real console gaming should be, not games your controller can't control, even if everyone can buy a keyboard and a mouse, do you really think many people will do this? And do you even think everyone has a table (high enough to not get back-complains) and a comfortable chair in front of their consoles to even be able of using a mouse and keyboard in the same practical way pc users do?

[lancekortesoja]

   They have ported oblivion to ps3 with no lag, and even shorter loading times with ps3, and yes a big problems would be the UI, but unreal tournment 08(?) will be able to use mods from the PC

[Wingrider01]

Dragonfighter@Oasis wrote: <blockquote>   They have ported oblivion to ps3 with no lag, and even shorter loading times with ps3, and yes a big problems would be the UI, but unreal tournment 08(?) will be able to use mods from the PC </blockquote> Haven't played oblivion but it might be because eq2 client is DirectX based, last time I looked the PS3 does not support DirectX video API calls nor does it support XML, it would require a complete rewrite of the graphics portion of the client - not a very good ROI for the stockholders

[Gargamel]

<p>Well we know the 'launchpad' system that SoE uses for all their online games WILL be supported by the PS3 (the back-end at least).  It will form the backbone of sony's network, digital distribution, patching, online 'community', etc.</p><p>The CLIENT would need to be re-written, but there is noting that would prevent players from 'plugging into' or integrating with the current live servers, if sony wanted to do that.</p><p>As far as graphically... quoting ram numbers is useless.  N64 games were only a few dozen megabytes, and with a custom cpu with all kinds of 'designer' opcodes, you'd be surprised how much they can squeeze out of the specs.</p><p>The PS3's cpu is based on 'cell' technology, which is stil next-gen tech in the pc world and not used due to its bleeding edge expense (cheaper to plop down an extra 1-3 cores ATM)</p><p>The PS3's medium (blu-ray) is availalbe in the pc world, but would still be considered next-gen, again due to its expense.  Once it comes down and is 'default' in stock dell pc's (preferably with burn capabiliyt) -- I'll consider it mainstream.</p><p>Graphically, the ps3 is capable of just about what NVidia hopes to release this november (perhaps a bit ahead)... though in the console world you can design to 99% of specs... in the PC world you have to limit that a bunch, or at least have tons of options to reduce things (like eq2 already does).  Course I hear the ps3 is a pain in the [Removed for Content] to code for, so who knows if they can hit the 99% either.</p><p>Weather they do it or not, I have no idea, but I am confident that the PS3 could run eq2 at max settings, ESPICALLY since they would have to rewrite the client and could taylor it where needed during that process.</p>

[Kaalenarc]

<p>At Fan Faire someone asked Smed this same question. He laughed and said "no way"</p><p>Then again - he OK'd the NGE on SWG - so who knows :p</p>