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Muhnay
08-12-2007, 09:59 PM
What should I spec out on? I have a Fury ( the wife ) that runs with me everywhere we go. She is 49th level, while I am only 43rd level. I normally have played the warrior type classes, and tanked.. but I have found I like the caster class much more. Any advice on how I should spec this toon out? I also noticed the 2 trees, what tree should I spend my points in?
Sepharo
08-13-2007, 03:30 PM
<p>My wife also plays a fury (70), while I am currently working my way up (53 wiz).</p><p> When she mentors me and we duo, I am finding we don't gel as a team as much as we'd really like. </p><p>The current method (and perhaps better ones exist, I'd appreciate any ideas) we use is basically my solo method. Root-debuff-nuke. Re-root. Nuke some more. (The fact our roots stack is nice tho)</p><p>Now having her really speeds things up, as Fury's have a nice nuke, but their DPS is mainly in DOTS and this method eliminates the usefullness of dots (cause as you know, you can't take a hit to...well to save your life) and since we outdamage Furies by a LOT this way, you will see you getting the brunt of the aggression.</p><p> Their healing goes to waste b/c when done right, neither of you gets hit. They can't use DOTS thus it's very boring for them. (Try letting her use her dots, it does make for an exciting, albeit difficult battle. (I don't think I've laughed harder in EQ2 as I was chased into the dunes of Ro by a very very angy tarantula, my wife running after me trying to heal; it was quite comical))</p><p>I am specced atm 4-4-4-8-1 Agi, 4-4-2 Wis, and basically ice line. I'm not sure honestly how you could spec your char to make this work. No matter what, you aren't going to be able to take too many hits so the method mentioned above will still stand. </p><p>I dunno, like I said I'm open to suggestions. This way just isn't worth it. Better to grab some melee dps to tank for us (usually plenty lfg) which she can heal and feel more useful imo. Otherwise...</p><p>You will shine. Your wife.....will want to make a new toon.</p>
simpwrx02
08-13-2007, 03:37 PM
<p>If you want to take some hits spec down the sta line it is a huge bump to your mit, also put 10 points into magi shielding, trust me you can be healed pretty easy with this set up also go down the str line and max out your parry for more avoidance. I had my wizzy to 45% mit and 48% avoidance self buffed, add in healer's mit buff and I was right around 50% mit, maybee a bit higher.</p><p>It may not be the best setup, but it might work pretty nice if you are duoing with a fury.</p>
Oakleafe
08-14-2007, 09:03 AM
Can't offer advice on your spec but ask the wife to try and get her AA up to Animal Form. It's a nice little spell she can cast on you when your power has run low/out - it allows you basically to re-power by stifling you (you have no power so what the hey!) you regen power by using melee. Simply cancel the spell (you or her) when you want to start using your regenerated power again. If you've lost power then she'll no doubt take the aggro from you, so she'll be taking the damage not you. I know their are casters who don't like Animal Form - posts seem to say they'd rather have no power than be stifled (which kind of means they're missing the point). However, if it's just you and the missus then you should get along just fine with it as you can verbally call for it to be cast and removed. Anyway, as a Fury I would advise her to try for Animal Form. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />
simpwrx02
08-14-2007, 12:50 PM
<p>For animal form to work you have to be in melee range which would take away the main benefit of roots being able to stack and tehn nuke, so in this case animal form is worthless.</p><p>If you are in melee range where animal for will be useful then the fury will probably be oop be for the wizzy just trying to keep the wizard up, as far as aggro, it isnt like once you stop hitting you loss all of your hate, odds are the wizzy will have a large amount of hate over the fury.</p><p>Also wizards have some descent health to power spells.</p>
Oakleafe
08-15-2007, 08:04 AM
I know a lot of mage-types hate Animal Form but personally I think it's just because you don't understand it. <img src="/smilies/136dd33cba83140c7ce38db096d05aed.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> For Animal Form to work, YES, you have to be in melee range. For Animal Form to be worth casting you have to be out of power and have little you can do about it. If you are out of power you are not casting roots. If you are not casting roots you are being pounded. If you are out of power and are being pounded anyway I don't see that converting health to power is an obvious winner. If the OP is out of power and being pounded then the Fury-wife will be casting heals anyway - if the OP tried out Animal Form (not for the whole duration of the spell, just enough to have sufficient power to regain control of the fight) rather than making the Fury-wife's job harder by sacrificing more life, I believe that, in the more desperate situations, the group will find it very useful indeed. Obviously not just casting Animal Form and hoping for the best. Animal Form, then a combo of heals and maybe DoTs (finishing with a group HoT and Hibernation - a delayed group heal) and that followed by Urchin (basic Urchin gives a big mitigation increase plus damages the attacker when you are hit - bad side is it stuns the Fury - but in the Animal Form line there's a small regenerative heal which will help a little). Neither Animal Form nor Urchin would be left for the full cycle. Just long enough for the OP to have enough power to be able to regain control and hopefully finish the job. Added to that, if the Fury-wife is out of/low on power she too can switch on Animal Form/melee mode and regain power. I do accept that, in this case, both players have roots - but also both players have power drain. Animal Form is just another tool to managing that power drain. Obviously Animal Form is far more useful when you have a meat shield to hold the aggro. In these cases it should really be a no-brainer to use Animal Form when mage or priests need to regen power (bad AoE excepted). I hope they do try it out, as I think a close combo will find it a great tool but if the OP and his wife don't find it useful then they can respec. I bet you they don't respec though. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Oh, and I do agree that the Fury wouldn't magically take aggro away from a Wizard that had nuked himself dry. However, Fury heals attrack aggro as well as their nukes and DoT, so if the Wizard was powerless then aggro would eventually pass to the Fury (assuming the mob and both players are still standing).
<cite>Oakleafe wrote:</cite><blockquote>I know a lot of mage-types hate Animal Form but personally I think it's just because you don't understand it. <img src="/smilies/136dd33cba83140c7ce38db096d05aed.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> For Animal Form to work, YES, you have to be in melee range. For Animal Form to be worth casting you have to be out of power and have little you can do about it. If you are out of power you are not casting roots. If you are not casting roots you are being pounded. If you are out of power and are being pounded anyway I don't see that converting health to power is an obvious winner. If the OP is out of power and being pounded then the Fury-wife will be casting heals anyway - if the OP tried out Animal Form (not for the whole duration of the spell, just enough to have sufficient power to regain control of the fight) rather than making the Fury-wife's job harder by sacrificing more life, I believe that, in the more desperate situations, the group will find it very useful indeed. Obviously not just casting Animal Form and hoping for the best. Animal Form, then a combo of heals and maybe DoTs (finishing with a group HoT and Hibernation - a delayed group heal) and that followed by Urchin (basic Urchin gives a big mitigation increase plus damages the attacker when you are hit - bad side is it stuns the Fury - but in the Animal Form line there's a small regenerative heal which will help a little). Neither Animal Form nor Urchin would be left for the full cycle. Just long enough for the OP to have enough power to be able to regain control and hopefully finish the job. Added to that, if the Fury-wife is out of/low on power she too can switch on Animal Form/melee mode and regain power. I do accept that, in this case, both players have roots - but also both players have power drain. Animal Form is just another tool to managing that power drain. Obviously Animal Form is far more useful when you have a meat shield to hold the aggro. In these cases it should really be a no-brainer to use Animal Form when mage or priests need to regen power (bad AoE excepted). I hope they do try it out, as I think a close combo will find it a great tool but if the OP and his wife don't find it useful then they can respec. I bet you they don't respec though. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Oh, and I do agree that the Fury wouldn't magically take aggro away from a Wizard that had nuked himself dry. However, Fury heals attrack aggro as well as their nukes and DoT, so if the Wizard was powerless then aggro would eventually pass to the Fury (assuming the mob and both players are still standing). </blockquote><p>Theoretically, yes. But what you said will never happen in real battle.</p><p>If both chars are out of powerful, they should run or depart. </p><p>If wizard is out of power and fury has some left, fury should root and decide whether run or heal wiz and let him harvest power back.</p>
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