Warden, Inquisitor or Fury vs tough named mobs

[Phaseo]

Assuming all three are equally geared and specced for soloing. Which one is able to take on the toughest mobs.

[DwarvesR]

<p>Assuming a highly skilled player, minimum Ad3 for all spells, and gear of legendary/fabled mix. . . . . </p><p>Any of them.</p><p>Warden and Inquisitor would likely be melee spec'd and go toe-to toe, relying on superior mitigation to keep them up.  The Fury would prbably root/nuke.  The warden would also have the option to root/nuke too, though.</p><p>Still and all. . . .any could do it.  They're all excellent classes.</p>

[Birn]

If you really mean tough heroics - none of them, some heroics can't be soloed.

[Ama]

<cite>Phaseout wrote:</cite><blockquote>Assuming all three are equally geared and specced for soloing. <b>Which</b> <b>one is able to take on the toughest mobs</b>. </blockquote><p> No doubt in my mind a fury can do it since I have seen what they can do.  As for the inquisitor class I can't say much since I don't play mine enough to have a feel.  </p><p>As for wardens we don't have "Major" tanking abilities, but if you master the root/nuke combo you can take on some tough little buggers.  Only problem is mana and we waste alot either healing or casting spells.  </p>

[Beldin_]

<cite>Amana wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Phaseout wrote:</cite><blockquote>Assuming all three are equally geared and specced for soloing. <b>Which</b> <b>one is able to take on the toughest mobs</b>. </blockquote><p> No doubt in my mind a fury can do it since I have seen what they can do.  As for the inquisitor class I can't say much since I don't play mine enough to have a feel.  </p><p>As for wardens we don't have "Major" tanking abilities, but if you master the root/nuke combo you can take on some tough little buggers.  Only problem is mana and we waste alot either healing or casting spells.  </p></blockquote>Furys burn mana like crazy, my little fury wasn't even able to kill the first named in nest when i tried him while for my SK he is a piece of cake. However my rootskill was totally low, maybe with better roots it would have worked better, but i was shocked how my mana was going down much faster then his life, and when i tried animal form he whacked me down like crazy <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Uilamin]

Well as an inquisitor I can solo nest, den (haven't tried soloing the devourer yet), almost all of mmc (haven't tried all the names), most of PoA...

[simpwrx02]

<cite>Birn wrote:</cite><blockquote>If you really mean tough heroics - none of them, some heroics can't be soloed. </blockquote> which heriocs are these, I can only think of 2 and those are the 2 dragons for the Bone Clasp Girdle HQ,  I have soloed every other mob I have tried, then again this was either with my wizzy or my illusionist.  I prefer using my illy as he takes more planning to make the kill.  Except those vamps in Castle mistmore they resist everything, however given enough time I am sure I could solo them with my illy.

[Devilsbane]

Jonna@Befallen wrote: <blockquote><p>Assuming a highly skilled player, minimum Ad3 for all spells, and gear of legendary/fabled mix. . . . . </p><p>Any of them.</p><p>Warden and Inquisitor would likely be melee spec'd and go toe-to toe, relying on superior mitigation to keep them up.  <b>The Fury would prbably root/nuke. </b> The warden would also have the option to root/nuke too, though.</p><p>Still and all. . . .any could do it.  They're all excellent classes.</p></blockquote>Root?! Furies are made to go toe to toe with named NPCs and minions. Damage/Reprisal shields are made for being hit. Just add gear and adornments that builds on that ability. Always chose power reg over any other aspect. Then make an AA build that adds damage. Last part of making a soloing Fury is finding items and stocking potions.

[Uilamin]

<cite>Devilsbane wrote:</cite><blockquote>Jonna@Befallen wrote: <blockquote><p>Assuming a highly skilled player, minimum Ad3 for all spells, and gear of legendary/fabled mix. . . . . </p><p>Any of them.</p><p>Warden and Inquisitor would likely be melee spec'd and go toe-to toe, relying on superior mitigation to keep them up.  <b>The Fury would prbably root/nuke. </b> The warden would also have the option to root/nuke too, though.</p><p>Still and all. . . .any could do it.  They're all excellent classes.</p></blockquote>Root?! Furies are made to go toe to toe with named NPCs and minions. Damage/Reprisal shields are made for being hit. Just add gear and adornments that builds on that ability. Always chose power reg over any other aspect. Then make an AA build that adds damage. Last part of making a soloing Fury is finding items and stocking potions. </blockquote> When the mobs are hitting for over 1000, usually you want to avoid being hit if possible. As for heroics that are hard to solo Names in Nizara, certain names in CMM, one of the named ravasects on the way to the den (probably a lot easier for a pure caster/lockdown class to solo over an inquisitor), certain names in unrest, the queen in kaladim (more of just annouying than being hard), the final named fight in nek 3

[Birn]

<cite>simpwrx02 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Birn wrote:</cite><blockquote>If you really mean tough heroics - none of them, some heroics can't be soloed. </blockquote> which heriocs are these, I can only think of 2 and those are the 2 dragons for the Bone Clasp Girdle HQ,  I have soloed every other mob I have tried, then again this was either with my wizzy or my illusionist.  I prefer using my illy as he takes more planning to make the kill.  Except those vamps in Castle mistmore they resist everything, however given enough time I am sure I could solo them with my illy.</blockquote>Would love to see you solo Nizara or Castle mistmore, especially the one who teleports you away. Nizara is very funny since they still do AE's while mezzed so, in the end you would fail.

[Gutwren]

<p>...Guess you never learned the class, spent too much time on the rest of your characters.</p><p> I have no problem soloing the entire nest, sitting in very few fabled pieces, master 1/adept 3's.</p><p>7k pwr, 6k health, 700int, 600wis.</p><p> And whoever the nincompoop down there that is bad mouthing root, go play your "omgahz melee fury!" on the last boss in the nest. You'll die without getting the guy below 90%.</p><p>If for some odd reason, you're having trouble with the FIRST boss in the nest, you need to get better gear I suppose? That guy is so simple I just pop energy vortex and drop him in about 20 seconds...</p><p> Now the rest of the bosses, I will just chain HO's and DoT's to do damage, and avoid going oom.</p><p> Now the last boss.... takes me about 10 minutes to kill him... dot/dot/ho/dot/dot/ho, do that til about 80% power, drop a hib and regen on myself, animal form, melee back to 100% power. Gotta keep him snared otherwise he can hurt.</p><p>And then to just showoff I can blurt out "I solo'd the scrollbearer at 67!".</p>

[simpwrx02]

<cite>Birn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>simpwrx02 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Birn wrote:</cite><blockquote>If you really mean tough heroics - none of them, some heroics can't be soloed. </blockquote> which heriocs are these, I can only think of 2 and those are the 2 dragons for the Bone Clasp Girdle HQ,  I have soloed every other mob I have tried, then again this was either with my wizzy or my illusionist.  I prefer using my illy as he takes more planning to make the kill.  Except those vamps in Castle mistmore they resist everything, however given enough time I am sure I could solo them with my illy.</blockquote>Would love to see you solo Nizara or Castle mistmore, especially the one who teleports you away. Nizara is very funny since they still do AE's while mezzed so, in the end you would fail. </blockquote> UHH i mentioned CMM and i forgot about nizara, other than that it just takes time and patence, normally when talking about soloing it is non instanced mobs .

[Gutwren]

Why would it be noninstanced mobs? All the biggest challenges are in the instances....

[Uilamin]

<cite>Gutwrench wrote:</cite><blockquote>Why would it be noninstanced mobs? All the biggest challenges are in the instances....</blockquote>ummm the biggest challenges are contested mobs. Nizara has some hard mobs, but the equivalent in CMM are harder, with a potential exception of the boss of nizara. Hardest mobs in KoS (heroics mind you) -> Carnivorgan, and the boss mobs in PoA (all contested) Hardest mobs in FD -> Nizara (instanced) Hardest mobs in EoF -> CMM (contested)

[iceriven2]

All three healers if played right can kill named mobs.  i have seen all 6 priest classes soled well enough to kill almost any named mob soloable by another class...just there slower at doin it :p

[Gutwren]

<cite>iceriven2 wrote:</cite><blockquote>All three healers if played right can kill named mobs.  i have seen all 6 priest classes soled well enough to kill almost any named mob soloable by another class...just there slower at doin it :p </blockquote>Furies don't do "slow". Unless it is to conserve power~

[Kharzon]

Battle Clerics FTW. I have both a fury and an inquisitor. Battle Cleric is far better dps then the fury. Gotta love those spell to combat arts conversions <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> And before you flame, I know battle clerics that off tank epic adds in EH and I know druids and shamans can't do that.

[thebunny]

<cite>Kharzon wrote:</cite><blockquote>Battle Clerics FTW. I have both a fury and an inquisitor. <b>Battle Cleric is far better dps then the fury</b>. Gotta love those spell to combat arts conversions <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> And before you flame, I know battle clerics that off tank epic adds in EH and I know druids and shamans can't do that. </blockquote><p>You must have played with some pretty crappy furies. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Though yea, druids would have a hard time off tanking epic adds.</p>

[DwarvesR]

<cite>Kharzon wrote:</cite><blockquote>Battle Clerics FTW. I have both a fury and an inquisitor. Battle Cleric is far better dps then the fury. Gotta love those spell to combat arts conversions <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> And before you flame, I know battle clerics that off tank epic adds in EH and I know druids and shamans can't do that. </blockquote><p>*blinks*  Quizzies out-dps Furies?  Um. . . .no.   I have a Battle Cleric Inquisitor and a Vortex Fury.  It's not even close.  Fury dps >>>>> Inquisitor dps.  That said, my quizzie could offtank if she had to, where I wouldn't want the fury trying that.  Both can take on even-con heroics without too much trouble, but the fury's definitely done with the fight faster.</p><p>Yes, I *can* make the parse on a raid with either, but if the quizzie does it it's becuz I was trying realllllly hard to get on the parse, and even then I'll be at the bottom and lucky to have made it.  I can have my fury be 3-5th on the parse when raiding with the same people without hardly trying at all. </p>

[Squigglle]

actually id think maybe a mystic? they pvp well

[Devilsbane]

<cite>Uilamin wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Devilsbane wrote:</cite><blockquote>Jonna@Befallen wrote: <blockquote><p>Assuming a highly skilled player, minimum Ad3 for all spells, and gear of legendary/fabled mix. . . . . </p><p>Any of them.</p><p>Warden and Inquisitor would likely be melee spec'd and go toe-to toe, relying on superior mitigation to keep them up.  <b>The Fury would prbably root/nuke. </b> The warden would also have the option to root/nuke too, though.</p><p>Still and all. . . .any could do it.  They're all excellent classes.</p></blockquote>Root?! Furies are made to go toe to toe with named NPCs and minions. Damage/Reprisal shields are made for being hit. Just add gear and adornments that builds on that ability. Always chose power reg over any other aspect. Then make an AA build that adds damage. Last part of making a soloing Fury is finding items and stocking potions. </blockquote> When the mobs are hitting for over 1000, usually you want to avoid being hit if possible. As for heroics that are hard to solo Names in Nizara, certain names in CMM, one of the named ravasects on the way to the den (probably a lot easier for a pure caster/lockdown class to solo over an inquisitor), certain names in unrest, the queen in kaladim (more of just annouying than being hard), the final named fight in nek 3 </blockquote>Yes, there are the occasional NPC that is hard to solo with a Fury. Still with 50% avoidance and mitigation plus heal over time spells worth hundreds of health points each tick, the Fury class needs not be a timid finger waggling rooter. I have not yet found an NPC (non Epic) that can not be soloed with the right strategy by a Fury.

[Gutwren]

<cite>Devilsbane wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Uilamin wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Devilsbane wrote:</cite><blockquote>Jonna@Befallen wrote: <blockquote><p>Assuming a highly skilled player, minimum Ad3 for all spells, and gear of legendary/fabled mix. . . . . </p><p>Any of them.</p><p>Warden and Inquisitor would likely be melee spec'd and go toe-to toe, relying on superior mitigation to keep them up.  <b>The Fury would prbably root/nuke. </b> The warden would also have the option to root/nuke too, though.</p><p>Still and all. . . .any could do it.  They're all excellent classes.</p></blockquote>Root?! Furies are made to go toe to toe with named NPCs and minions. Damage/Reprisal shields are made for being hit. Just add gear and adornments that builds on that ability. Always chose power reg over any other aspect. Then make an AA build that adds damage. Last part of making a soloing Fury is finding items and stocking potions. </blockquote> When the mobs are hitting for over 1000, usually you want to avoid being hit if possible. As for heroics that are hard to solo Names in Nizara, certain names in CMM, one of the named ravasects on the way to the den (probably a lot easier for a pure caster/lockdown class to solo over an inquisitor), certain names in unrest, the queen in kaladim (more of just annouying than being hard), the final named fight in nek 3 </blockquote>Yes, there are the occasional NPC that is hard to solo with a Fury. Still with 50% avoidance and mitigation plus heal over time spells worth hundreds of health points each tick, the Fury class needs not be a timid finger waggling rooter. I have not yet found an NPC (non Epic) that can not be soloed with the right strategy by a Fury.</blockquote>You're level 48. Can you melee off a yellow 3^^^? Furies are nuking/healing/rooting finger wagglers. We don't have plate or chain, we don't have 10 foot tall kite shields. We have leather armor and bucklers. And I am very curious how you are pulling 50% avoidance.... do you have like all agi gear and no int/wis stuff? And.. umm... *not yet found one*... you're level 48, come on man, atleast get to a decent level before saying that crap. I've run into quiet a few mobs that are unsoloable. Go solo the last boss in CoV, it's a pain in the [Removed for Content], good luck~