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ahandle

07-30-2007, 11:37 AM

Please forgive my ignorance here, I am new to eq2 and am finding that 11 years of UO, EQ and WOW are doing little to help me. Furthermore, the spoiler sites I find don't really reveal any information at all. 1. Where can I find a list of all the alternate advancement skills for each class?2. At level 15 or so I had a window pop up asking me to train an alternate advancement skill. One of the options was Summon Servant II (apprentice II I guess). By this time I had not found my class trainer and was not aware that I could just buy the spell. Why did it offer me an AA if I could just buy the scroll? How do I get this AA point back? Was it even an AA at all, or was it just a free upgrade to my spells that comes once every few levels? 3. How do I look at my alternate advancement window? Im level 19 right now and cannot figure out how to open this window...it doesnt seem to be in my command options either, unless its just called something Im not recognizing.4. Why quest? I spend so much time running in circles that I can positively say it takes longer to quest and get exp than it does to just grind. 5. If I were to decide to just grind and ignore quests, what would be the real penalty? I know I wouldnt have as many status points, I know I wouldn't have certain quest rewards, but would I be painting myself in a corner? That is, if I just grind to level 50, would I have to go back in time and completel 30 levels of quests to catch up, or would there be a world of quests still waiting for me? 6. the Everquest Players site says I should have a spell called lightning burst. The spell has not appeared in my book, nor does my trainer offer me upgrades. 7. I trained the racial talent that allows 3 to stam and 3% to power, but I haven't been able to find if that is my one and only allowed racial talent. Do I get to upgrade this? Do I get to choose more than one racial? Can I reset my racials? How do I view my racials in game, without having to wait for the + button to show up. 8. What is the best site for info on eq2? Im just lost without a handbook.

StoneySilen

07-30-2007, 11:56 AM

<cite>ahandle wrote:</cite><blockquote>Please forgive my ignorance here, I am new to eq2 and am finding that 11 years of UO, EQ and WOW are doing little to help me. Furthermore, the spoiler sites I find don't really reveal any information at all. 1. Where can I find a list of all the alternate advancement skills for each class?2. At level 15 or so I had a window pop up asking me to train an alternate advancement skill. One of the options was Summon Servant II (apprentice II I guess). By this time I had not found my class trainer and was not aware that I could just buy the spell. Why did it offer me an AA if I could just buy the scroll? How do I get this AA point back? Was it even an AA at all, or was it just a free upgrade to my spells that comes once every few levels?That wasn't an AA, that was a Mastery Choice. You get those every 10 levels if I remember right. They are not Apprentice 2, they are Master 2 (best spell possible). 3. How do I look at my alternate advancement window? Im level 19 right now and cannot figure out how to open this window...it doesnt seem to be in my command options either, unless its just called something Im not recognizing.You must own either/both KOS and EOF in order to see the AA window. I believe you can press L to get it to open. 4. Why quest? I spend so much time running in circles that I can positively say it takes longer to quest and get exp than it does to just grind. Then don't. Although quests are the way to go and in the long run you will earn tons more exp through quests then grinding. Also you earn exp for AA doing quests within your level. 5. If I were to decide to just grind and ignore quests, what would be the real penalty? I know I wouldnt have as many status points, I know I wouldn't have certain quest rewards, but would I be painting myself in a corner? That is, if I just grind to level 50, would I have to go back in time and completel 30 levels of quests to catch up, or would there be a world of quests still waiting for me?You would miss out on tons of AA exp and would have to grind AA at lvl 70 to get 100 points in AA. 6. the Everquest Players site says I should have a spell called lightning burst. The spell has not appeared in my book, nor does my trainer offer me upgrades. You should automatically get all your spells until you hit 50. So if your class still gets that spell it should be in your spell book (press K to open). EQ2Players is sometimes out of date. Use 3rd party sites like eq2.wikia.com or eq2.zam.com 7. I trained the racial talent that allows 3 to stam and 3% to power, but I haven't been able to find if that is my one and only allowed racial talent. Do I get to upgrade this? Do I get to choose more than one racial? Can I reset my racials? How do I view my racials in game, without having to wait for the + button to show up.There are no upgrades to racial abilities. And far as I know, no way to see what you chose. I don't think there is resetting racials unless the devs do a widesweeping change and grant everybody a reset. 8. What is the best site for info on eq2? Im just lost without a handbook.See sites listed in 6. </blockquote>

Freliant

07-30-2007, 12:06 PM

<cite>ahandle wrote:</cite><blockquote>Please forgive my ignorance here, I am new to eq2 and am finding that 11 years of UO, EQ and WOW are doing little to help me. Furthermore, the spoiler sites I find don't really reveal any information at all. 1. Where can I find a list of all the alternate advancement skills for each class?2. At level 15 or so I had a window pop up asking me to train an alternate advancement skill. One of the options was Summon Servant II (apprentice II I guess). By this time I had not found my class trainer and was not aware that I could just buy the spell. Why did it offer me an AA if I could just buy the scroll? How do I get this AA point back? Was it even an AA at all, or was it just a free upgrade to my spells that comes once every few levels? 3. How do I look at my alternate advancement window? Im level 19 right now and cannot figure out how to open this window...it doesnt seem to be in my command options either, unless its just called something Im not recognizing.4. Why quest? I spend so much time running in circles that I can positively say it takes longer to quest and get exp than it does to just grind. 5. If I were to decide to just grind and ignore quests, what would be the real penalty? I know I wouldnt have as many status points, I know I wouldn't have certain quest rewards, but would I be painting myself in a corner? That is, if I just grind to level 50, would I have to go back in time and completel 30 levels of quests to catch up, or would there be a world of quests still waiting for me? 6. the Everquest Players site says I should have a spell called lightning burst. The spell has not appeared in my book, nor does my trainer offer me upgrades. 7. I trained the racial talent that allows 3 to stam and 3% to power, but I haven't been able to find if that is my one and only allowed racial talent. Do I get to upgrade this? Do I get to choose more than one racial? Can I reset my racials? How do I view my racials in game, without having to wait for the + button to show up. 8. What is the best site for info on eq2? Im just lost without a handbook.</blockquote>2) At level 14 you got that ability to get a Master 2 spell. You get 4 choices. Trust me, its nothing like apprentice 2... its much much better. YOu get this option every 10 levels, where you can select one of 4 spells to be master 2.3) For alternate Advancement, Press L.4) At low levels, killing mobs gives you xp quicker than questing, but at around level 20, or so, you can finish quests much quicker than the amount of mobs it would take to get the same xp reward, so it becomes much more beneficial to finish quests than grinding mobs.. not to mention more fun. However, you can still just kill massive amounts of mobs to gain xp if you wish. 5) The amount of AAs you would be missing out by not questing is way too big to pass up. So do questing if you can. Don't worry if you don't do all the quests though.6) Press K for the knowledge book, All your spells will be there, and alot of them will be the upgrades to the older versions of the spells. If the 2 icons look exactly alike, then one of them is the upgrade.7) you get racial abilities every certain levels. First one is at level 10. The same racial traits will always show up. By the time you are level 70, you will have em all, cept 2, so just look at the 2 you don't like, and leave em alone, and just decide on what order you want to get all your racial traits.<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> In game do /help. It will give you the in game handbook which will help you with alot of things. There are sites with some good guides, but I don't remember any atm.

ahandle

07-30-2007, 12:13 PM

Thank you very much, this info is incredibly helpful.

ahandle

07-30-2007, 12:38 PM

I did think of one thing. You said that I wasn't training Apprentice 2, I was actually training master 2. The reason I suspected it was Apprentice 2 is because later when I found my class trainer and tried to buy and learn apprentice 2, summon servant, it said I alread had the skill. Does master 2 go in the spell book as apprentice 2? or do you simply not need apprentice 2 if you trained master 2.

Freliant

07-30-2007, 12:45 PM

when you upgrade spells, as in the change from Apprentice I to Adept 1 or other skill level, the new spell overwrites the old one... so that Apprentice I doesn't exist anywhere anymore, only the new spell does. And you can't overwrite a better version of a spell with a lower version, or even the same version. The game text was a bit off in how it stated it though, it should have said: you already have a similar or better version of this spell.

Gralthak

07-30-2007, 02:20 PM

<cite>ahandle wrote:</cite><blockquote>Please forgive my ignorance here, I am new to eq2 and am finding that 11 years of UO, EQ and WOW are doing little to help me. Furthermore, the spoiler sites I find don't really reveal any information at all. 1. Where can I find a list of all the alternate advancement skills for each class?A good site to look at for this would be <a href="http://www.eq2ref.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">www.eq2ref.com</a>.2. At level 15 or so I had a window pop up asking me to train an alternate advancement skill. One of the options was Summon Servant II (apprentice II I guess). By this time I had not found my class trainer and was not aware that I could just buy the spell. Why did it offer me an AA if I could just buy the scroll? How do I get this AA point back? Was it even an AA at all, or was it just a free upgrade to my spells that comes once every few levels?As others have mentioned this wasn't an AA ability, this was your Mastery choice. Every ten levels you get to pick one of four spells to learn at Master II profiency, which is the absolute best you can have. In order the ranks of skills from worst to best is:<ul><li>Apprentice I - Starting level of a skill when you learn from gaining a level</li><li>Apprentice II - Crafted</li><li>Apprentice III - Crafted</li><li>Apprentice IV - Crafted, highest level of 'common' crafted skill</li><li>Adept I - Loot, found from killing monsters</li><li>Adept III - Crafted, uses expensive rare material </li><li>Master I - Loot, found rarely in Exquisite Chests</li><li>Master II - Chosen from list at set level intervals</li></ul>At low levels picking a Master II isn't as big of a deal because you will out level that ability soon enough. Be very careful at higher levels though, some of the skills at that level you might be stuck with for the rest of the game! Make sure you make the right choice for you. 3. How do I look at my alternate advancement window? Im level 19 right now and cannot figure out how to open this window...it doesnt seem to be in my command options either, unless its just called something Im not recognizing.Open the menu with the 'L' key. You must have Kingdom of Sky, Echoes of Faydwer, or both to have access to Achievements.4. Why quest? I spend so much time running in circles that I can positively say it takes longer to quest and get exp than it does to just grind.Quests garner you substantial monetary, item, and experience rewards. Many quests also increase faction with some groups or allow access to other quests. And most importantly the vast majority of quests give you Achievement experience, which is far more difficult to obtain than standard experience. 5. If I were to decide to just grind and ignore quests, what would be the real penalty? I know I wouldnt have as many status points, I know I wouldn't have certain quest rewards, but would I be painting myself in a corner? That is, if I just grind to level 50, would I have to go back in time and completel 30 levels of quests to catch up, or would there be a world of quests still waiting for me?You'll be missing out on a substantial amount of AA experience in addition to what you listed. That said you can still quest your heart out at level 50 or above and be fine. 6. the Everquest Players site says I should have a spell called lightning burst. The spell has not appeared in my book, nor does my trainer offer me upgrades. Hit 'K' to open your skill list, it will contain all of your abilities, combat arts, and spells.7. I trained the racial talent that allows 3 to stam and 3% to power, but I haven't been able to find if that is my one and only allowed racial talent. Do I get to upgrade this? Do I get to choose more than one racial? Can I reset my racials? How do I view my racials in game, without having to wait for the + button to show up.You regularly get racial abilties at set level intervals. 8. What is the best site for info on eq2? Im just lost without a handbook.The common sites are Allakhazam's, EQ2ref.com, EQ2I.com, and of course right here.</blockquote>As an aside, if you are having issues doing a lot of running around with quests it might be helpful to remember you can have 75 quests going at any one time. You can usually find several quests taking place in the exact same area or very close so you can work on multiple quests at the same time. Finish a bunch and then make a trip to turn them all in at once rather than running back and forth.