View Full Version : lookin for best coercer MT AA setup
Slovack
07-26-2007, 11:53 PM
whats all your thoughts for best MT AA setup
Merowing
07-27-2007, 03:27 AM
hiho, there are soooo many way that can be cool for your mt group - but thats my spec for our spezial mt grupp and it works fine. i do decent dps, eof fth first named 1,6k dps or kos lab zone wide 1,4k zone dps. AND i got all tools from the coercer that are must have in our raidforce <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> kos agi: 48882 sta: 448 eof Coercion Line -- Despotic Mind Haruspex Spell Lash Empathic Link Coercive Healing Mana Line -- Mana Flow Mana Cloak Consume Ego Consuming Thoughts Mana Ward Resistances Line -- Gloom Damaged Psyche greetz gothix
Raidi Sovin'faile
07-27-2007, 04:45 AM
The MT groups I play with NEVER have a problem with mana as it stands right now. The only thing I'd consider doing is maybe making Channel 5 minutes quicker (8 points spent, 3 in manacloak off Enhance: Harmonious Link, and then 5 in Channel). I've been looking at Thoughsnap and with the latest changes on test, it sounds like it might be a good idea. That, and powerdrains/stun aggro is just as important as DPS. If you are using ACT, look at your "Outgoing (all)", as it includes your power drains.. gives a nicer image of what you end up doing that affects aggro. Since, you know, our hate gain buff is having a portion changed into a hate transfer. KoS lines give a lot of options. Agi/Int will give a nice boost to DPS, which pulls your weight a little better (make sure you get proc gear if you are Agi spec'ing). Stamina line gives two clickable aggro control skills, heal crits, and group hate decrease (which becomes more important with the upcoming hate changes). Wisdom line gives some extra resists and more importantly, Subjugation skill buff, which means your control spells will land better on higher level mobs. Lastly, the Strength line gives a nice power free DPS that works even when you are stunning things, but involves getting close to the mobs (AEs could be an issue). The final though might be worth having on a raid... Counters the next profession or racial ability cast by the mob. It's a debuff placed on the mob, and automatically counters the effect. If the AE the mob is doing is considered a racial or profession ability, you will be able to counter it. Nothing about not working on Epics too. Recast is 20 seconds, so it could be a decent damage reducer (and the line give +50 to piercing so if you use a piercing weapon, you are most likely going to land the attack). Overall, it really depends on the raid force and equipment you have. If you have tons of +subj gear, and/or your raid won't be doing EoF yet, you probably won't need Wisdom line. If your raid force never has aggro concerns, then the minor heal crits boost from Stamina line probably isn't worth it. Agi line only really helps DPS a lot IF you have a decent set of proc items. Otherwise the most benefit you'll get is casting your crowd control a little faster. If your raid has mana issues, then the Mana line in EoF AA's can be worth getting. If not, then it might be overkill. If your raid is lacking Brigands and other debuffers, then improving the resists line would be a good idea. All in all, most of our lines have some benefit to a raid and MT group, it just really depends on what's more needed for your current environment.
Lleinen
07-27-2007, 03:19 PM
<p>two different setups for EoF depending on your tanks ability to hold aggro first is thoughtsnap for aggro help and second is for the new hate transfer youll be getting agi 4 4 7 8 2 int 4 6 4 8 1 Mana Flow (5/5) Mana Flow (5/5) Transfer Potential (5/5) Transfer Potential (5/5) Gorging Thoughts (5/5) Gorging Thoughts (5/5) <b>Channel (5/5) Channel (5/5) or Mana Cloak or Mana Cloak (5/5)</b> Mana Ward (1/1) Mana Ward (1/1) Breakdown (3/5) Deep Focus (3/5) Ruinious Hesitation (4/5) Sonic Boom (5/5) Ego Torrent (5/5) Sonic Boom (5/5) Cataclysmic Mind (3/5) Confoundment (5/5) Harmonious Link (5/5) Thought Snap (1/1) Auspex (2/2) Spell Scourge (2/2) Cataclysmic Mind (3/5) Coercive Healing (1/1) Spell Scourge (1/2)</p>
Raidi Sovin'faile
07-28-2007, 05:31 AM
Upgrades to the lvl 35 Bloodlines spells were snuck into a Test update on the PvP server. They were level 53 spells (haha, reversed). If we eventually do get an upgrade, then the upgrade to Manacloak may become even better for MT.
Slovack
07-28-2007, 01:15 PM
thx for the replys all, helped alot keep em comin if u think of anything else
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