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Soljorn
07-26-2007, 01:26 PM
<p>I am constantly highest on the parse during a pve fight but when we are in a pvp fight I am one of the lowest on the parse. Does anyone have any advice or pointers as to what I could be doing wrong.</p>

jam3
07-26-2007, 05:10 PM
what level are you? in tier 7 mages like warlocks/conjurors( i play a 70 conjuror and swash) normally dominant the PVP parse because of there mass aoe damages. Scouts are not huge aoe damagers but rather alot of damage on a single target.

b0nehead
07-26-2007, 06:28 PM
<p>PvP fights are over with so quickly (for the most part) that auto-attack damage doesn't really count for much, whereas in a PvE fight lots of your damage will be coming from auto-attack.</p><p>how many pvp fights last even half as long as the average epic? </p><p>That's my guess anyway</p>

Meatmonster
07-26-2007, 06:54 PM
 It kind of depends on the nature of your problem, too. I'm assuming you mean Group/Raid rather than solo PVP considering the parse thing.  Honestly, I think a huge thing when it comes to DPS in raids, and to a lesser extent groups is being Reach spec'd. You dont have to be right next to someone, which means you generally dont have to track someone down to hit them. You also get increases to your two AE's, Hurricane, etc., which is a big deal IMO.  In non-soloing situations, I'll generally keep the option to "auto face" my target checked, so I automatically turn towards my target, and I've got it set up so my target pretty much has a completely opaque glow for visibility too.  Generally when I'm in raid PVP, I'm moving constantly. Usually what I do right off the bat is immediately hit Advanced Warning(AE block at the end of Style line), and drop Lucky Ploy and Dashing Swathe back to back in the highest density of targets I can, and then assist the target through whoever, pop Inspiration, and angling myself so my Hurricane cone is into as high a density as I can get it, and then worry about the three rear attacks later. If the assist is getting taunt locked, I'll /target XXX (XXX being the first 3 letters of the targets name), and try to land them myself. If I'm being taunt locked myself(Some people will tell you this is bad due to reactive taunts and all that), I'll generally drop a couple of CA's on the MT too.

Soljorn
07-26-2007, 07:11 PM
<p>I am lvl 54 and trying to spec out to do max damage in pvp </p>

b0nehead
07-26-2007, 07:58 PM
<cite>Soljorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I am lvl 54 and trying to spec out to do max damage in pvp </p></blockquote><p> max damage is all very well, but it's not the end by any means - I have about 56% avoidance, for example, and the amount of auto-attacks that miss me is very useful. (and remember Agi is power too) I also have pretty good Wis so spells bounce off a fair bit too.</p><p>Be careful not to nerf yourself by concentrating on Str too much, that's my 2cs</p>

Cocytus
07-26-2007, 09:17 PM
Why do you even parse PVP? All that matters is that your opponent(s) die and you don't....

Soljorn
07-27-2007, 01:25 PM
<p>I dont parse pvp our guild leader does but we are starting to understand that the pvp battles go to fast to build up any real dps. </p><p>I am really trying to spec out to be good all around my sta, str, and agl are all over 300 but my int and wis are suffering for it, I am currently trying to find gear to average out  a little better for int and wis as well. I am in full cobalt master gear.</p>

Arkari
08-04-2007, 03:43 AM
Generally in raid PvP swashbucklers are near the top of the list right under warlocks, unless of course the warlocks are going down fast in which case swashes are almost always topping the parse. Any good raid vs raid fight the warlocks will be dying very fast since they can make or break the fight. Allies: (03:2<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> 294198 | 1414.41 [Jema-Thunderbolt-2167] Arkarius 132717 | 638.06 Efet 62933 | 302.56 Rela 31692 | 152.37 Hayle 26771 | 128.71 Imogen 22065 | 106.08 Jema 18020 | 86.63 a grizzled slatepaw 0 | 0.00 Imogen's Umbral Attendant 0 | 0.00 This is a parse from a 6v6 fight. Swash Illu Dirge Guardian Mystic Fury

Soljorn
08-06-2007, 05:11 PM
Where do you think I should be put in a raid and why.