Coercer PvP vid

[Balrok]

<p>.. wanted to share with fellow coercers that don't troll the pvp forums. </p><p>Since I read nothing but Coercers suck at pvp, posting another vid.  This all <b>post-GU36</b>.</p><p><a href="http://files.filefront.com/Exur+20wmv/;8143307;;/fileinfo.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><b> Exur post-GU36</b></a></p><p> and my old vid that was <b>pre-GU36</b>.</p><p><b>  </b><a href="http://files.filefront.com/Exur+Finalwmv/;7869058;;/fileinfo.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><b>Exur pre-GU36</b></a></p><p> Wish I had some of my best ones recorded, but I forget to push that record button in the heat of the moment. <img src="/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>And if you still have issues with the class... /invite good Guardian and group that knows how to keep you alive, cause you will own all group PVP!</p><p> Enjoy</p>

[Blumfield]

You have attained the rank of Destroyer

[Duskwo]

I notice you're from venekor. How did you fight the brig?

[Blumfield]

Exile?

[Balrok]

<cite>Duskwood wrote:</cite><blockquote>I notice you're from venekor. How did you fight the brig?</blockquote><p>Without Question, Brigands and Swashbucklers are one of our easiest targest.</p><p>#1.  Most of them are button mashers.</p><p>#2.  They use so many quick fast melee and CA's that our reactives bring them down in like 2 seconds.</p><p>#3.  The only issue you will have is keeping them off you till you get your reactives on them.  That is why you have Amnesia, AoE Fear and Blink.  All three of these are either instant or .4 sec casts and they will alow you time to mez or put reactives on any rogue that jumps you.  If they use anti stun/stifle potions, then fear.  If they use anti fear/root potions, then stun... if they resist, use Blink.  So many options design to give you time.  All three of these cause the Rogue to drop you as your target as well.</p><p>#4.  Get reactives on priority 1!... then let them come in and attack.  Dead Rogue.</p><p> Opps.. miss-read your post.  That Brigand was Exiled. </p>

[Duskwo]

wait wait wait! you can keep your class when exiled?! I was told it reverts you to the Q class. AKA the brig would become a swashy! How did he keep his class?!

[Balrok]

Duskwood wrote: <blockquote><p>wait wait wait! you can keep your class when exiled?! I was told it reverts you to the Q class. AKA the brig would become a swashy! How did he keep his class?!</p></blockquote>He's Exiled.. means he hasn't joined Qeynos yet.  When you Exile, you don't belong to any city.  Total free for all pvp... it's awesome, cause you kill everyone, but very tough and you lose all the pvp city gear and items.

[Controlor]

Not one of those vids had you vs an ILLY <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> ..... Do us illys beat you or do you just avoid them.

[Balrok]

<cite>Controlor wrote:</cite><blockquote>Not one of those vids had you vs an ILLY <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> ..... Do us illys beat you or do you just avoid them.</blockquote><p>#1.  Not very many of them.</p><p>#2.  Qeynos based players just don't go out pvp'ing alone much.</p><p>#3.  Good illy's own my face... I can't seem to figure out how to get around spell shield.  14 second stifle is nasty on my self.  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  So are my reactives.  </p><p>I would love to work on figuring them out.. I've kill some good ones, but it's cause I stifled them first.  But again, they don't solo pvp much. ... nor do Coercers I guess.  <img src="/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Alcanilla]

Your video is really interesting. However, I just warn people that is a bit accelerated. Many friends told me: "Wow! Coercer kills so fast! I never saw you kill anyone that fast, you slacker!" #1 I though you had the final AA of str line. Do you use often in video? (hard to read some of the spell buttons) #2 swash and monk are definitely easy target for us. Even if I myself never met one for at least 2 weeks. #3 how you deal with manashield? Iam used to dispell them but found no confirmation the dispell is working. I just keep getting two shoted by wizzies.

[Alcanilla]

#4 Do you use charm in pvp? I stoped using it myself.

[Blumfield]

Catyclysmic Mind + Manashield = /giggle.  In other news, Illu's own coercers in pvp 90% of the time (or that has been my experience)

[Balrok]

Alcanilla@Venekor wrote: <blockquote><p>Your video is really interesting. However, I just warn people that is a bit accelerated. Many friends told me: "Wow! Coercer kills so fast! I never saw you kill anyone that fast, you slacker!" #1 I though you had the final AA of str line. Do you use often in video? (hard to read some of the spell buttons</p><p>#2 swash and monk are definitely easy target for us. Even if I myself never met one for at least 2 weeks. </p><p>#3 how you deal with manashield? Iam used to dispell them but found no confirmation the dispell is working. I just keep getting two shoted by wizzies.</p><p>#4 Do you use charm in pvp? I stoped using it myself. </p></blockquote><p>I have this thread in the pvp forum, so this is what I've said about these.</p><p>#1.  Love it.. the STR is extra damage, cause we need to be close to our enemies anyway.  Plus it's an extra interupt and the riposte is more damage too.  This is the bonus stuff to the STR line, but #1 reason is Counterblade, as you expected.  Against mages it's priceless.  You can see when other mages are casting big (Ice Comet, Rift, etc...) .48 casting time, so you can quickly pop counterblade and COUNTER their big nukes.  Basically it's a 100% resist.  For all other classes, it's pure chance that you've timed the counter of a huge CA.. but I'll take 100% to counter any CA.  (Example:  I know Rangers are going to try and use their Knockback CA when they are coming out of mez rooted.  countering it is nice.)  Another side bonus is that the STR CA's put you in melee autoattack which is HUGE when you are fighting a scout and they can't get behind you.  Sometimes mages forget to turn autoattack on and scout easily can get behind them for their big CA's.  just my 2cp.  The range of counterblade used to be like 30 meters... was so nice to pop it will you have the player at range.  They snuck in a nerf to that, so the range is now 5 meters.</p><p>#2.  We eat Rogues.... think I can go afk after mezing and loading up reactives and still come back to a chest.  A well played Monk is nearly impossible to kill.  I almost had a great Monk in the video, but then his buddies jumped in.  The monk I killed after sucked.  Here is why a good monk is tough.  Huge DPS and HP combo for a class.  They have self heal.. so think of that as 3k more HPs.  Then they also have a 3k magic ward, which I think eats up our mental spells.  So your looking at killing a player with about 13k HPs.  I think i'm going to start Stifile when they get to 20%, so they can't heal themselves.  Oh, and they have a CA that cures mental dots/spells... sucks.</p><p>#3.  One answer to that.. Pumice Stone off of the NFP PvP vendor.  You see them pop manashield, burn a Pumice Stone and that Manashield is gone.</p><p>#4.  If and when I need the extra dps, I'll charm a spellcaster mob... but I enjoy pvp'ing without one, cause it's annoying always having to get one and it eats up 3 concentration slots. </p>

[Controlor]

Exur@Venekor wrote: <blockquote><p> *Snip*</p><p>I have this thread in the pvp forum, so this is what I've said about these.</p><p>#2.   A well played Monk is nearly impossible to kill.  I almost had a great Monk in the video, but then his buddies jumped in.  The monk I killed after sucked.  Here is why a good monk is tough.  Huge DPS and HP combo for a class.  They have self heal.. so think of that as 3k more HPs.  Then they also have a 3k magic ward, which I think eats up our mental spells.  So your looking at killing a player with about 13k HPs.  I think i'm going to start Stifile when they get to 20%, so they can't heal themselves.  Oh, and they have a CA that cures mental dots/spells... sucks.</p></blockquote>Then how are you able to beat a well played Paladin (which you see in the video beating)? They have more healing abilities. More wards. Higher HP. And a few cure spells. Plus range on spells. Do they just spam CA's/spell's ignorantly or something? I know paladins dps sucks but should be enogh to take down a coercer while still healing themselves.

[Balrok]

14 second stifle works great on pallies.   They don't have the dps to bring me down in 2 secs inbetween stifles like monks do.

[Merowing]

wohoo extrem nice stuff! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Ibunubi]

<cite>Controlor wrote:</cite><blockquote>Exur@Venekor wrote: <blockquote><p> *Snip*</p><p>I have this thread in the pvp forum, so this is what I've said about these.</p><p>#2.   A well played Monk is nearly impossible to kill.  I almost had a great Monk in the video, but then his buddies jumped in.  The monk I killed after sucked.  Here is why a good monk is tough.  Huge DPS and HP combo for a class.  They have self heal.. so think of that as 3k more HPs.  Then they also have a 3k magic ward, which I think eats up our mental spells.  So your looking at killing a player with about 13k HPs.  I think i'm going to start Stifile when they get to 20%, so they can't heal themselves.  Oh, and they have a CA that cures mental dots/spells... sucks.</p></blockquote>Then how are you able to beat a well played Paladin (which you see in the video beating)? They have more healing abilities. More wards. Higher HP. And a few cure spells. Plus range on spells. Do they just spam CA's/spell's ignorantly or something? I know paladins dps sucks but should be enogh to take down a coercer while still healing themselves. </blockquote><p>And higher power costs and slower recast times. Paladins can be beat,  you just have to over power them and especially land the stifle around 30-40% so you can burn them down and they can't cast Celestial Touch, which they are probably saving for when they were almost dead because "coercers can't dps."</p><p>Illusionists 1v1 you just can't get passed the spell shield without hurting yourself. The only advantage you have versus spell shield is that the reflect only triggers while the illusionist is engaged in-combat. So you'd have to act fast and mez their pet, stifle the illusionist to keep them out of combat, then you can stack up all your spells on them.</p><p>That was a great movie, Exur.</p>