Bestest - or at least, least broke - class?

[Nilliam]

OK here's the deal I have a <ul><li>70 templar</li><li>58 Bruiser</li><li>41 wiz</li><li>34 conjy</li><li>and a zerker, mystic, paladin and troub in their teens.</li></ul> So if I want to play in a group and work hard, out comes the templar. Sit back and blame the tank and healers when we wipe*, the wiz; solo it's the conjy or bruiser Rolled the zerker for when I want to be the boss of a group Mystic cos I wanted to reserve a name Paladin - who cooks for the rest of them. But I just fancy playing a class that the panel (that's you <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> thinks is the bestest - whose AA lines work and enhance the class, whose solo survivability is good, welcome in groups, nice spell / CA animations. So which classes have Sony got just right? It may help, or not<img src="/smilies/136dd33cba83140c7ce38db096d05aed.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> but I think out of that lot, the templar or wiz wins. The conjy AA lines just don't seem to do it for me. Bruisers for me are neither tanks nor dps. Paladin just confuses me and zerker, well, not played enough to make a decision. Thanks in advance! <span style="font-size: xx-small"><span style="color: #990066">*joke!</span></span>

[Uilamin]

The do it all class is the inquisitor, really saying they got it 'just right' would be off as the class is rather over powered.  As they can fill any role in a group (adequately to very well) depending on their AA spec and equipment.

[Norrsken]

inqy, healer, tank, dps. the two second ones are for those in a pinch moments or groups. SK, tank or dps. Both solo well. The inqy will have a far easier time getting into raids. And both classes go "But I want 4 lines in KoS!!!". <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Plus, EoF has at least 1 nice line for the soloer.

[Dabbie]

<cite>Uilamin wrote:</cite><blockquote>The do it all class is the inquisitor, really saying they got it 'just right' would be off as the class is rather over powered.  As they can fill any role in a group (adequately to very well) depending on their AA spec and equipment. </blockquote>You have got to be kidding me.  Templars in general can out buff and heal an inquisitor, and if they spec DPS in their AA trees, out dps them as well. Our MT templar has parsed 1600 before...  while still in the main tank group. My point here is inquisitors are hardly overpowered, especially with all of their still wonderfully broken spells. Inquisitors can solo well, as they can put out decent melee dps, but so can templars. As far as soloing goes, I've always preferred my monk. Can tank in groups, in solo, high melee dps, a self heal and cure, high agi, mit, and hp and fd goes a long way. The CA animations are nice as well.

[Liral]

I gotta go with the fury class. It has great ultility with it's movement advantages. It can solo well with it's good nukes and DOT's. It can heal well in both solo and group situations with the HOT's and straight heals.  It's a great class to play. <img src="/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Rahatmattata]

Everyone knows brigands by far are the best class in EQ2. Everyone that didn't roll a brigand picked wrong.

[Uilamin]

<cite>Dabbie wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Uilamin wrote:</cite><blockquote>The do it all class is the inquisitor, really saying they got it 'just right' would be off as the class is rather over powered.  As they can fill any role in a group (adequately to very well) depending on their AA spec and equipment. </blockquote>You have got to be kidding me.  Templars in general can out buff and heal an inquisitor, and if they spec DPS in their AA trees, out dps them as well. Our MT templar has parsed 1600 before...  while still in the main tank group. My point here is inquisitors are hardly overpowered, especially with all of their still wonderfully broken spells. Inquisitors can solo well, as they can put out decent melee dps, but so can templars. As far as soloing goes, I've always preferred my monk. Can tank in groups, in solo, high melee dps, a self heal and cure, high agi, mit, and hp and fd goes a long way. The CA animations are nice as well. </blockquote>Well if an inquisitor has convert m1 and has it up, they can out-heal any class as they can get about +500 to all their healing amounts.  Templars are actually worse healers, templars are better tank buffers though. Yes Templars can out-buff an inquisitor for a tank group, however, an agi spec'd inquisitor will buff almost as well (in every aspect, but str/wis and blessings) as a non-agi spec'd templar. As for damage parsing, as an inquisitor I can commonly parse 1500+ dps while staying above 100hps. As for a Templar parsing 1600, it was probably on an UD mob, which if they spec dps has them nuking for close to 4k every few seconds, throw in the int-line UD aoe which can do over 6k damage and yes some nice damage numbers come out.  However, if they are healing during the same time they loose 25% of their dps. As for broken inquisitor spells, which ones are you talking about?  Really?  Some spells you just need to learn how to use to optimize their performance.

[Gonodir]

<p>Fury! I just got Ring of Fire on mine and oh how the mobs do die in bulk! <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </p><p>I have a 70 templar which I must say, I really hate playing. I have a 70 ranger which is pretty enjoyable. I have a young swashy which is lots of fun... but yeah, I think the fury is my favorite.</p>

[Dabbie]

<cite>Uilamin wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Dabbie wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Uilamin wrote:</cite><blockquote>The do it all class is the inquisitor, really saying they got it 'just right' would be off as the class is rather over powered.  As they can fill any role in a group (adequately to very well) depending on their AA spec and equipment. </blockquote>You have got to be kidding me.  Templars in general can out buff and heal an inquisitor, and if they spec DPS in their AA trees, out dps them as well. Our MT templar has parsed 1600 before...  while still in the main tank group. My point here is inquisitors are hardly overpowered, especially with all of their still wonderfully broken spells. Inquisitors can solo well, as they can put out decent melee dps, but so can templars. As far as soloing goes, I've always preferred my monk. Can tank in groups, in solo, high melee dps, a self heal and cure, high agi, mit, and hp and fd goes a long way. The CA animations are nice as well. </blockquote>Well if an inquisitor has convert m1 and has it up, they can out-heal any class as they can get about +500 to all their healing amounts.  Templars are actually worse healers, templars are better tank buffers though. Yes Templars can out-buff an inquisitor for a tank group, however, an agi spec'd inquisitor will buff almost as well (in every aspect, but str/wis and blessings) as a non-agi spec'd templar. As for damage parsing, as an inquisitor I can commonly parse 1500+ dps while staying above 100hps. As for a Templar parsing 1600, it was probably on an UD mob, which if they spec dps has them nuking for close to 4k every few seconds, throw in the int-line UD aoe which can do over 6k damage and yes some nice damage numbers come out.  However, if they are healing during the same time they loose 25% of their dps. As for broken inquisitor spells, which ones are you talking about?  Really?  Some spells you just need to learn how to use to optimize their performance. </blockquote>First of all, lets start with convert. I have it master 1. I have approximately 400 in plus to heals (i'd have to log on and count it all to be sure). At this level, convert is plus 261 to all heals. Even if it crits, it will NEVER be 500. Templars, in the same group, will out healparse an inquisitor. They get buffs they cast on the mob that heal, the same reactive and larger blast heals that inquisitors get, plus additional reactive ticks on their set gear. Convert makes up for some of this, but put in the same situation a templar should parse more. This is not to say inquisitors cannot heal adequately, or solo heal, they can. They are not unbalanced with the templar class, they are simply more melee buff oriented. As for your dps and hps statement, for inquisitors, that is pretty normal. As for templar dps and hps, no, I am not talking about undead and situational nuking. Our templar often parses 1600 or more on any trash mob in raid zones. And none of them are undead. Our templar is not AA spec'd down that line. Keep in mind templars get the same plus to melee that inquisitors get-- plus to double attack, 100% crits, and a 42?% proc (obviously without the CAs).  With a decent weapon they will be swinging just as hard as inquisitors will. Broken inquisitor spells-- i am talking about the AA lines primarily--take a look at fanaticism and verdict. Neither is working 100% as intended. My point? Inquisitors are hardly overpowered, especially compared to their templar brethren, and are definitely not "healer gods." If you want to know who rules the heal parse in my guild, it would be wardens. The inquisitor is a well rounded and fun to play class that can do some of everything.  Are they the best soloers? Probably not, but their survivability is at least far greater than the mages <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> This is, however, a complete derailment from the original poster. Sorry about that. I still say monks are an awesome solo class. Can't go wrong with the cleric either <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Nasake from Blackburrow SoN (70 inquistor) Cast Blackburrow (70 warlock) Kelpie  Blackburrow (70 monk)

[S_M_I_T_E]

<p>I really hate to burst anyones misconceptions but Inq and Temp are EQUALLY effective healers.  If they weren't there'd be some serious nerfage happening.</p><p> As a Temp you get buffs and beefy heals which look good on the <i>parse</i> but your debuffs ain't as good on the Mobs which mean the mobs doing more nasty stuff to your tank.</p><p> As and Inq your debuffs are big and your heals are decent.  Debuffing the mob makes it do <i>LESS</i> damage to the Tank meaning you need to heal less.</p><p> Either way you choose, they both can be equally effective.  Only shortsighted individuals live by the parse.  Temps may heal more but Inq makes mob do less damage so its really irrelavant.  </p><p>Both plate healers have the capacity to increase group lifespan the same on paper.  Does the parse say how much less damage that mob is doing from the debuffs?  mmmmmm?   Have you compared the group lifespan with Temp vs Inq?  I bet they're identical with the correct spell upgrades/equipment and optimal playstyle.</p><p>To the OP, any healer with the "right" AA's is fun to solo now if that's your style.  Groups aren't hard to come by and getting in raids is easy enough.  At launch playing a healer was a real chore solo.</p>