Fury = Happiest class in game?

[kcirrot]

Is it just me or are the members of the Fury branch of druidism the most happy players in EQ2?  I have been reading the other class boards trying to find a class to start as an alt and they all: 1) Are the worst class in the game;  <img src="/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> 2) Do insufficient DPS; <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> 3) Hate [insert class they think is better than them]!  <img src="/smilies/908627bbe5e9f6a080977db8c365caff.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I'm so thankful SOE gave us this awesome class.  I've always loved druids, and Furies are the perfect incarnation of them!  <img src="/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Kocia]

<p>Of all classes I played none come to the level of Fury in terms of complete package.</p>

[MrFurious99]

I was happier when I wasn't suffering from the Energy Vortex nerf =x

[kcirrot]

Stinch@Najena wrote: <blockquote>I was happier when I wasn't suffering from the Energy Vortex nerf =x </blockquote>Be honest though, we all knew that was coming.  <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[MrFurious99]

What, you mean I'm *NOT* supposed to parse 2nd overall on fights where I vortex? <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[kcirrot]

Stinch@Najena wrote: <blockquote>What, you mean I'm *NOT* supposed to parse 2nd overall on fights where I vortex? <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </blockquote>Correct.  Wizards and Predators are already a cranky lot.  <img src="/smilies/908627bbe5e9f6a080977db8c365caff.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[ZUES]

<p>Fury AA's suck with exception of rebirth and energy votex. Other than that yes, its a fun class and very well rounded. They are highly skilled in dps and can heal. I think they are the worst of all healers but in full int gear they can contend with some of the best dps classes. So it's a good trade off but better suited as a second healer in hard situations as their cast timers are much, much slower than all the other healer classes. Can easily solo heal many groups but mobs that hit hard and fast are the furies worst enemies.</p><p>Ive enjoyed mine and wouldnt trade it for anything.</p><p>Jixs - 69 Fury - Unrest</p><p> Edit - Ding another toon in 70 chat  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> All mastered with a few adept 3's and our heals are still slow as molassas. OH and the fury gets stunned more than ANY toon I've played. I have nice gear (not much fabled) but my focus (maxed) seems to not effect how often we get stunned or interupted in a fight. Makes you want to throw your keyboard out the window at times. They actually made an AA to correct the crazy stupidness of getting stunned so often. [Removed for Content]!!!</p><p>And for below posters. I take a nuetral position and critique my own toon. I'm at 93 AA's and have learned the class well I think. I'm just telling it like it is....</p>

[kcirrot]

<cite>ZUES wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Fury AA's suck with exception of rebirth and energy votex. Other than that yes, its a fun class and very well rounded. They are highly skilled in dps and can heal. I think they are the worst of all healers but in full int gear they can contend with some of the best dps classes. So it's a good trade off but better suited as a second healer in hard situations as their cast timers are much, much slower than all the other healer classes. Can easily solo heal many groups but mobs that hit hard and fast are the furies worst enemies.</p><p>Ive enjoyed mine and wouldnt trade it for anything.</p><p>Jixs - 69 Fury - Unrest</p></blockquote>Huh?  Are you joking?  Fury heals have the fastest casting time in the archetype.  And only Inquisitors beat us on recast times.

[Swiftshad]

<cite>ZUES wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Fury AA's suck with exception of rebirth and energy votex. Other than that yes, its a fun class and very well rounded. They are highly skilled in dps and can heal. I think they are the worst of all healers but in full int gear they can contend with some of the best dps classes. So it's a good trade off but better suited as a second healer in hard situations as their cast timers are much, much slower than all the other healer classes. Can easily solo heal many groups but mobs that hit hard and fast are the furies worst enemies.</p><p>Ive enjoyed mine and wouldnt trade it for anything.</p><p>Jixs - 69 Fury - Unrest</p></blockquote> If you think furies are the worst of all healers then I think it might be how you play, not the class itself.

[Ferunnia]

To the person a few posts back...Do you realize how many classes whine and [I cannot control my vocabulary] because we have a wide variety of AAs that are actually functional? That we aren't limited to any two certain lines on the KoS side because each of them offers something useful, be it to raiders or soloers or groupers? Or how about the fact that in the right situations (mainly raiding and tough heroic bosses) our fast casting group heals mean we pretty much would outparse any other class because we have awesome group healing ability? Rebirth is actually usually considered one of the less useful spells on our aa list. If things are bad enough you have to rely on auto rezzes something is wrong with the group. If in a raid you need rebirth yer being a [I cannot control my vocabulary] and pulling aggro on aoes or your raid is about to wipe anyways when healers start dying. As far as us being the worst healers in the game, it's a matter of how well you play, maybe we have the lowest healing <u>POTENTIAL</u>, but that doesn't mean a competent fury won't outheal a [I cannot control my vocabulary] unskilled healer of other classes. There's a thread on this class forum talking about furies solo healing the level 70 instances, even Nizara with the right kind of group. (Dunno if you've done it, but Nizara's the toughest instance in the game for groups bar none imo). I don't know how many people play furies back before LU13 but we used to have craptastic healing, barely any utility, and crap dps (except when compared to other healers). Over the life of this class, we're at the top of the game at the moment...Hate to see the nerf coming to Vortex, knowing we keep the same amount of heal loss most likely, but meh, a class that can parse in the top 5 consistently on grouped epics using vortex and can heal? Be realistic. edit: Oh and here's a regular spell cycle on those 'hard-hitting mobs' you spoke of. Precast hibernate before pull, cast single target hot after first taunt (with salve or bitf if the tank takes immediate damage) Drop our group hot, then cycle in elixir or hibernation again if the tank isnt stabilized off our two hots ticking off 700+hp per 2 secs. On all tough stuff, keep both hots running and you'll be amazed at the difference in our ability to keep tanks up. With a good mana battery and strategic use of animal form if you have it, then it's almost impossible to run outta mana even chain casting using our expensive group heals just to keep the tank up.

[thebunny]

<cite>ZUES wrote:</cite><blockquote>Fury AA's suck with exception of rebirth and energy votex.</blockquote><p>I personally disagree, I think we have some pretty nice AAs.  Vortex is of course uber, but there's also quite a few other ones that are awesome as well.  Animalism (power regen ftw), Infusion (nice DPS booster), faster recasts for all our damage spells (nice DPS booster), increased dmg crits (more DPS at no extra power cost), increased heal crits (more healage at no extra power cost), faster HoT ticks (more healing power), Tortoise Shell (handy for EoF raids, though the range is kind of annoying), etc.</p><p>To be honest Rebirth is one of those AAs I think is pretty useless actually.  It may be handy in groups, but whenever I used it in raids it was usually just a quick second death.  I can't count the number of times Tarinax killed me twice in a row heh.</p>

[MrFurious99]

<cite>ZUES wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Fury AA's suck with exception of rebirth and energy vortex.  </p></blockquote>That's crazy talk.  Maybe for you those are the only two decent AA's but Turtle Shell is a life (and group) saver on tricky pulls either in heroic or epic content.  Infusion is very nice for casting an addition nuke through healing when you're other damage spells are busy refreshing.  I don't think I need to mention Animal Form, although it was better before the double attack/proc nerf.. but again, I knew that one was coming.

[KBern]

<cite>kcirrot wrote:</cite><blockquote>Is it just me or are the members of the Fury branch of druidism the most happy players in EQ2?  I have been reading the other class boards trying to find a class to start as an alt and they all: 1) Are the worst class in the game;  <img src="/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> 2) Do insufficient DPS; <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> 3) Hate [insert class they think is better than them]!  <img src="/smilies/908627bbe5e9f6a080977db8c365caff.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I'm so thankful SOE gave us this awesome class.  I've always loved druids, and Furies are the perfect incarnation of them!  <img src="/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </blockquote><p> Try a necro if you really want a fun alt.</p><p>1. Definately not.</p><p>2. We do fine DPS.</p><p>3. Some hate us, but we are an easy going lot. <img src="/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>I do have a fury alt and he is a lot of fun. </p>

[Kocia]

<cite>ZUES wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Fury AA's suck with exception of rebirth and energy votex. Other than that yes, its a fun class and very well rounded. They are highly skilled in dps and can heal. I think they are the worst of all healers but in full int gear they can contend with some of the best dps classes. So it's a good trade off but better suited as a second healer in hard situations as their cast timers are much, much slower than all the other healer classes. Can easily solo heal many groups but mobs that hit hard and fast are the furies worst enemies.</p><p>Ive enjoyed mine and wouldnt trade it for anything.</p><p>Jixs - 69 Fury - Unrest</p></blockquote> L2FURY KTHX

[Rutabegah]

Yes, I'm very happy with my Fury. I find rebirth to be really useful.  In raids, when you rez via rebirth you are pretty much cleared on the hate list.  So don't go immediately back to casting as soon as you pop up.  If 1/3 to 1/2 of your raid is dead, that's a wipe.  Just don't cast anything, stay away from the mob and he'll leave you alone.  Then you can start rezzing quickly after the mob resets. Energy Vortex is great.  I wonder though if everything is going to 40%.  The patch notes don't clarify, except to say bonuses are going from 50% to 40%.  Does this mean costs and heal reduction also go from 50% to 40%?  It's not that bad of a nerf if EVERYTHING changes from 50 to 40. Animal Form is a must have for efficient mob farming.  In raids when OOP, you can pop it, swing 5-10 times and then release for a good amount of regen.  You can even use manastone and thermal shockers with animal form active.  Animal Form is also a must have if you like to duel.  You will never lose to another healer, or any class that relies on prolonging fights in a battle of mana conservation. 

[thebunny]

<cite>Rutabegah wrote:</cite><blockquote>I find rebirth to be really useful.  In raids, when you rez via rebirth you are pretty much cleared on the hate list.  So don't go immediately back to casting as soon as you pop up.  If 1/3 to 1/2 of your raid is dead, that's a wipe.  Just don't cast anything, stay away from the mob and he'll leave you alone.  Then you can start rezzing quickly after the mob resets. </blockquote><p>Maybe it depends on the encounter, or they changed something since I first got it, I don't know.  But I'd try to use it for Tarinax back in the day to make sure someone stayed up after a wipe, and without fail it would just mean 2 successive deaths.  Usually the way it ended up was...  I died, rebirth kicked in 5 seconds later, I'd stand there while Tarinax killed people, he'd turn on me (note I didn't do anything at all, not even buffs), I'd die again.</p><p>If they would change it so you could choose when to rez yourself (like when someone rezzes you), then I might consider it.  But for me Infusion and Tortoise Shell are better, just my personal opinion.</p>

[Kocia]

<cite>thebunny wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Rutabegah wrote:</cite><blockquote>I find rebirth to be really useful.  In raids, when you rez via rebirth you are pretty much cleared on the hate list.  So don't go immediately back to casting as soon as you pop up.  If 1/3 to 1/2 of your raid is dead, that's a wipe.  Just don't cast anything, stay away from the mob and he'll leave you alone.  Then you can start rezzing quickly after the mob resets. </blockquote><p>Maybe it depends on the encounter, or they changed something since I first got it, I don't know.  But I'd try to use it for Tarinax back in the day to make sure someone stayed up after a wipe, and without fail it would just mean 2 successive deaths.  Usually the way it ended up was...  I died, rebirth kicked in 5 seconds later, I'd stand there while Tarinax killed people, he'd turn on me (note I didn't do anything at all, not even buffs), I'd die again.</p><p>If they would change it so you could choose when to rez yourself (like when someone rezzes you), then I might consider it.  But for me Infusion and Tortoise Shell are better, just my personal opinion.</p></blockquote><p>QFT</p><p> Tortoise shell is very nice, infusion is so so but the line is great so might as well.   Rebirth is a waste, at the end of crappy line.</p>

[DarrkElf]

<p>Of all the different classes I've tried I think the Fury gets the best AA choices.</p><p>Unlike other classes there in no 'one' path that you must take for it to be worthwhile.</p><p>I respec fairly regularly, depending on how I am spending most of my time (solo/group/raid), and also what role I am usually playing in the group or raid.</p><p>Most of the AA lines are advantageous for certain play styles.  eg the KoS INT line is brilliant for soloing, the STA line heal crits are good for raiding.  Rebirth can be handy in a group or solo. </p>

[Devilsbane]

What I like about Vortex is that the 50% heal reduction can be countered. If you take Tunare as your deity you have a 50% healing increase bleesing/miracle.  <img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[thebunny]

<cite>Devilsbane wrote:</cite><blockquote>What I like about Vortex is that the 50% heal reduction can be countered. If you take Tunare as your deity you have a 50% healing increase bleesing/miracle.  <img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></blockquote><p>It would have to be 100% for it to be completely countered.  1000 pt heal decreased by 50% is 500 pts, increased by 50% is 750 pts.  But it is better, at least for the duration of that blessing.</p><p>But I almost never throw vortex up when a lot of healing is required, and even if it is up I'll cancel it if necessary to heal.</p>

[Argul]

<cite>Kocia wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Of all classes I played none come to the level of Fury in terms of complete package.</p></blockquote> I say this all the time. Now if only we wore plate and stole wardens evac..

[Miele]

Argul@Lucan DLere wrote: <blockquote><cite>Kocia wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Of all classes I played none come to the level of Fury in terms of complete package.</p></blockquote> I say this all the time. Now if only we wore plate and stole wardens evac.. </blockquote>I get 100% avoidance when the mob is rooted away from me and those carnivorous plants can help with the evac part <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Almost there... almost there <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />