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badtupram
07-20-2007, 02:48 PM
Hey Guys, Started to post this at the Newbie Yard but felt like since my char is a Warden it might be better to post it here. The achievement system is a bit of a mystery to me at this point.  Like I stated, newbie.  I have just a few points available to me and I'm hoping you guys could give me some ideas on the best way to spend them. I'm including links to the trees. <a href="http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c22/tupsplace/EQ2_000012.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c.../EQ2_000012.jpg</a> <a href="http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c22/tupsplace/EQ2_000011.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c.../EQ2_000011.jpg</a> I appreciate any advice that you can give me. Also, I've read so many places about how peeps will purposly stop aquiring points toward xp or something like that. What is the advantage to doing that?  As I've stated I've read quite a few postings but to someone rather new to the game, some of the lanquage is a bit foreign. Thanks for your time.

badtupram
07-20-2007, 02:52 PM
By the way,  my Root Snare comes in real handy.  One of my favorite spells.

Arielle Nightshade
07-20-2007, 06:44 PM
<p>I would advise you to look around these boards a bit...there are quite a few HUGE discussions on just this subject - vs us telling you chapter and verse what to do here.   You actually don't have to even look very far to find an answer.</p><p>There's a difference between getting advice and having someone tell you how to play your character.    The discussions here on how to spend your AA points cover all manner of Wardens, as well - Player vs. Environment Wardens, Player vs. Player Wardens, Casual ones, Hardcore leveling ones, Raiders...pretty much every focus you could want is here, and with not much in the way of searching either.</p><p>You don't say if you are on a PvP server or not...but the level locking is most often done there.   If you level too quickly, you don't get enough AA's fast enough to support your character at 70, pvp is often more difficult in Tier 7 (level 60 - 70), is often more plentiful and kills easier at lower levels.  People will level lock in order to get PvP status rewards and titles, as well.</p><p>PvE....I have no idea why you'd level lock unless it was to play with friends or let someone catch up to you.</p><p>Regards, </p>

Lazz
07-25-2007, 10:04 AM
In my opinion I would get the 75% crit in the Warden tree, then max out str in Druid tree, then go Int in the Druid tree. If you go this way you must focus on Str and Wis stats for armor and gear. Trust me you wont be disapointed.

Veedublya
07-25-2007, 12:41 PM
Grayson@Crushbone wrote: <blockquote>In my opinion I would get the 75% crit in the Warden tree, then max out str in Druid tree, then go Int in the Druid tree. If you go this way you must focus on Str and Wis stats for armor and gear. Trust me you wont be disapointed.</blockquote><p> If your going to melee spec, INT tree would be a poor decision since it increases your spell damage.</p><p>Based off the fact he said he liked his root I would suggest goinjg down your movement line first, enhance your roots and enhance SoW, after you upgrade those 3 then move down your INT line to increase your spell damage. If you want to continue to root and nuke thats they way to start off.</p>

Lazz
07-25-2007, 02:19 PM
<cite>Veedublya wrote:</cite><blockquote><p> If your going to melee spec, INT tree would be a poor decision since it increases your spell damage.</p></blockquote><p> I disagree... at the bottem of the INT line it does an AOE attack everytime you cast a benifitial spell. The exrta melee attack is nice as well. All heals and cures. With this set up evertime you attack you will heal a% with the STR line and everytime you heal you will attack AOE with the INT line. I fine the root very helpful when killing names with friends, I root the named, kill friends then finish off named. I can solo names white con to me. I act most of the time as the MT as well as MH.</p><p>I would agree to max out SOW line for movement bonus and then max the Spirit of the bat and numbing spores.</p><p>Obviously this is my opinion and for me it works very well. I have been playing the game since about launch and tried many things and this is by far the best for me. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>I suggest you get about 30 - 40 AA the respec and try a few thing to see what ya like. and the fastest way to do this is lock you adventure XP and quest like mad!!</p><p>Good luck in your adventures and if ya roll a toon on Crushbone look me up!!</p><p>~ King Grayson Melee'Monster of The Seventh Hammer</p>

Skivley101
07-26-2007, 03:51 AM
Grayson@Crushbone wrote: <blockquote><cite>Veedublya wrote:</cite><blockquote><p> If your going to melee spec, INT tree would be a poor decision since it increases your spell damage.</p></blockquote><p> I disagree... at the bottem of the INT line it does an AOE attack everytime you cast a benifitial spell. The exrta melee attack is nice as well. All heals and cures. With this set up evertime you attack you will heal a% with the STR line and everytime you heal you will attack AOE with the INT line. I fine the root very helpful when killing names with friends, I root the named, kill friends then finish off named. I can solo names white con to me. I act most of the time as the MT as well as MH.</p><p>I would agree to max out SOW line for movement bonus and then max the Spirit of the bat and numbing spores.</p><p>Obviously this is my opinion and for me it works very well. I have been playing the game since about launch and tried many things and this is by far the best for me. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>I suggest you get about 30 - 40 AA the respec and try a few thing to see what ya like. and the fastest way to do this is lock you adventure XP and quest like mad!!</p><p>Good luck in your adventures and if ya roll a toon on Crushbone look me up!!</p><p>~ King Grayson Melee'Monster of The Seventh Hammer</p></blockquote><p>I dissagree of course ... if you have limited AA points ... the aoe root & dispell root on the wisdom line is more usefull than going down the int line .</p><p>you need a significant amount of AA to make the int line pay off too ,,,,for quick abilities with realativley low AA ... its any of the warden line or Agi,Sta,Wis .</p><p>Int and Str require a significant investment to make the dividends pay off </p>

Lazz
07-26-2007, 11:39 AM
See being Melee speced I rarely use my roots, I might root a named and kill off his friends but thats about it I would rather go toe to toe as I use the spiked shoulders and shield adornments. I welcome the carnage!!

Sniffsniff
08-02-2007, 01:59 PM
Arielle Nightshade wrote: <blockquote><p>I would advise you to look around these boards a bit...there are quite a few HUGE discussions on just this subject - vs us telling you chapter and verse what to do here.   You actually don't have to even look very far to find an answer.</p><p>There's a difference between getting advice and having someone tell you how to play your character.    The discussions here on how to spend your AA points cover all manner of Wardens, as well - Player vs. Environment Wardens, Player vs. Player Wardens, Casual ones, Hardcore leveling ones, Raiders...pretty much every focus you could want is here, and with not much in the way of searching either.</p><p>You don't say if you are on a PvP server or not...but the level locking is most often done there.   If you level too quickly, you don't get enough AA's fast enough to support your character at 70, pvp is often more difficult in Tier 7 (level 60 - 70), is often more plentiful and kills easier at lower levels.  People will level lock in order to get PvP status rewards and titles, as well.</p><p>PvE....I have no idea why you'd level lock unless it was to play with friends or let someone catch up to you.</p><p>Regards, </p></blockquote><p>Hi Arielle I had a question for you or anyone else that has level 70 AA experience knowledge.  Its about the AA trees, not where to place my points as I have a feeling of where I want to go with that.  But my question is that I am worried that at lvl 70 I wont have Max AA's and with no knowledge about being lvl 70 are there ways to continue getting AA exp, there can only be so many quests right?  I mean I dont want to be lvl 70 with only 60 AA's and no chance of advancing to get 100 AA's?  Anyways probably a dumb question but lots of people here are very helpful and thought this would be a nice thread to ask in.  Thanks anyone who answers in advance.</p><p> -Sadpanda</p>

Veedublya
08-02-2007, 02:22 PM
<cite>Sniffsniff wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Hi Arielle I had a question for you or anyone else that has level 70 AA experience knowledge.  Its about the AA trees, not where to place my points as I have a feeling of where I want to go with that.  But my question is that I am worried that at lvl 70 I wont have Max AA's and with no knowledge about being lvl 70 are there ways to continue getting AA exp, there can only be so many quests right?  I mean I dont want to be lvl 70 with only 60 AA's and no chance of advancing to get 100 AA's?  Anyways probably a dumb question but lots of people here are very helpful and thought this would be a nice thread to ask in.  Thanks anyone who answers in advance.</p><p> -Sadpanda</p></blockquote> Are you in a raiding guild or are you a casual player?

Sniffsniff
08-02-2007, 02:40 PM
I'm just a casual player atm only lvl 38 atm, I am just worried with how quickly I have levelled since I started that by the time I reach lvl 70 I wont have anywhere near the max AA's and not many options available for earning that AA exp.  I mean I have gotten nearly 40 levels in just a few weeks time with hardly playing, and dont want to end up lvl 70, 60's AA's with very limited ways of earning the last 40 or whatever the number may be (if this is even the case, like I said I have no knowledge of high lvl gameplay in Eq2 and thus my question.)  In EQ1 I could just AA exp all day and night but totally different system there.

Lazz
08-02-2007, 03:23 PM
Well disable your combat XP by right clicking on the XP bar and selecting "disable combat xp". This way you only gain XP for things which yield AA. You lvl slower, see more of the game and get ALOT of AA. I'm lvl 43 with 57 AA and I unlock a few times.

Sniffsniff
08-02-2007, 03:31 PM
Grayson@Crushbone wrote: <blockquote>Well disable your combat XP by right clicking on the XP bar and selecting "disable combat xp". This way you only gain XP for things which yield AA. You lvl slower, see more of the game and get ALOT of AA. I'm lvl 43 with 57 AA and I unlock a few times.</blockquote> Thanks I was wondering what people were talking about by disabling.  I am lvl 38 and only have 35 AA's and was figuring at my pace at lvl 70 with nowhere to go I'd only have like 60-65 AA's and was worrying about that haha.  Thanks much for the info Grayson!  Btw I much prefer melee AA style after reading lots of your posts <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Veedublya
08-02-2007, 03:33 PM
Just stick to doing quests and try to hit every named in zones, at your level you have many places to go with nameds everywhere, RE is a goldmine for AA with all the quests and nameds, 2 instances with more nameds. As you get higher in levels your xp will slow down but your AA levels will start to catch up. By doing that with my defiler i had around 85 AA by the time i hit 70.

Skivley101
08-02-2007, 03:40 PM
<p>When you hit lvl 70 you will still gain AA pts ...you actually start gaining them faster becuz all credit goes toward AA instead of your lvl increase.</p><p>Its the same as turning off combat xp ... you do gain more AA by doing quests and killing names for the first time vs just killing in general though.</p><p>And collection quests & discovery still give AA,  also mentoring down yeilds more AA (you get more from orange con than green con). whether it be quests,collections, or just killing.  Grey collections & quest completion will still give some AA.</p><p>The last 10 AA pts seem to go really slow .... But when you finnally get maxed .... there is a short sense of gratification, but then the horrid truth of nothing more to advance on sets in (LOL)   just my oppinion though.</p>

Sniffsniff
08-02-2007, 03:45 PM
<cite>Skivley101 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>When you hit lvl 70 you will still gain AA pts ...you actually start gaining them faster becuz all credit goes toward AA instead of your lvl increase.</p><p>Its the same as turning off combat xp ... you do gain more AA by doing quests and killing names for the first time vs just killing in general though.</p><p>And collection quests still give AA,  also mentoring down yeilds more AA (you get more from orange con than green con).</p><p>The last 10 AA pts seem to go really slow .... But when you finnally get maxed .... there is a short sense of gratification, but then the horrid truth of nothing more to advance on sets in (LOL)   just my oppinion though.</p></blockquote> Ahhh that also helps a lot too to know that at lvl 70 regular exp starts getting converted to AA.  Thanks to everyone that replied and let me in on the lvl 70 info I have been worrying about and lacking.  I appreciate you guys on this forum I read your guys (and girls) input everyday!  Much appreciated!

Arielle Nightshade
08-02-2007, 04:51 PM
<p>Hi SP, just saw your query....Veedub answered you <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  At 70 you still get AA's for discovery and killing a Named for the first time - as well as your XP converting to AA as well (it's a very strange conversion, but does convert...)</p><p>My PvP Warden was 70 well before EoF came out, and the subsequent new 50 AA's.   They racked up pretty fast, and I didn't feel the lack of them.  Not having them doesn't [Removed for Content] you (IMO), but having them does make you a lot stronger.</p><p>  Many people level lock to get the AA's BEFORE 70 (especially PvP'ers) mostly because there are abilities in EoF AA's that are similar to spells you get at much higher levels.  Just depends on how you want to play! </p>

badtupram
08-05-2007, 06:15 PM
Hey Guys, Haven't ck'd this thread in a while.  Wanted to say thanks for all the comments.  Very helpful Did not realize that my toon would keep earning aa after 70 or that I could really.  Refreshing. Keeps me from having a paniky feeling. lol Btw, at the date of this post I was a 21lvl warden I believe, with 7 aa points. I'm now a 27lvl warden with 20 aa so we've made some real progress in that area.  I feel much better about my little warden. We're still grinding out aa but it's important to me not to loose focus on why I started playing in the first place and that was to have fun. Thanks again

Skivley101
08-06-2007, 12:27 AM
Im a 24 Bezerk right now ....and his AA is starting to Warrent question <img src="/smilies/0a4d7238daa496a758252d0a2b1a1384.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Skivley101
08-06-2007, 03:13 AM
<p>i took the rageing blow line M2...I figure a taunt with some dmg is good</p><p>I notice when i bezerk with my button config ... it helps</p><p>well the point of this story is ... there are many ways to get to Rome</p><p>But it wasnt built in a day <img src="/smilies/49869fe8223507d7223db3451e5321aa.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>