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Cerios
07-20-2007, 01:28 AM
I was wondering if we could get this graphic changed for something a little less gaudy? you know like maybe a rubber chicken or one of those plastic pink lawn flamingo's? Maybe something like a stick with dog poo on the end?

Nathdorl
07-20-2007, 10:52 AM
whats your point? the hammer looks awesome as it is right now

Cerios
07-20-2007, 11:56 PM
The hammer is maybe the worst looking weapon that I have ever seen in my life, it doesn't even have the cartoon appeal that wow tends to bring out or the stylized fantasy appeal of a lineage weapon. It looks so over the top horrific that I don't even want to do the quest, and not only do I not want to wield this insanely ugly POS, but the warden I group and raid with is simply refusing to get this weapon. Now I'm not one to complain much about looks, hell I play a paladin. But for the life of me I can't understand how this weapon made it off the drawing board. I have seen some bad mistakes made by sony in general when it comes to equipment looks, I remember the duck stick, I remember the mage epic, I have seen the qeynos claymore and qeynos guard. I can even understand that there will be some people with an odd sense of aesthetic that may actually like these items, and whatever I understand that things like this will be hit and miss. But this hammer is a different level. To have a reached a level of bad that I dread the idea of looking at a weapon, I really have to begin to wonder what is happening - please if your going to make weapons that look this [Removed for Content] please allow some kind of option to turn the graphics to something that someone with a 50+ IQ and a maturity level about age 6 will find appealing. This is the first time i have actually ever posted on a game forum to complain, after being with EQ1 since day one, posting many times on many forums i find it hard to believe that I am posting to complain about a graphic. But what I would really appreciate here is knowing if this is the graphical direction of the game, because I am not interested in playing this game if this trend continues. I am not a hard guy to please graphically honestly. I don't care if you go with the relistic style that had been the mark of EQ2 at release or with the cartoony uber weapons of wow, or the Lineage/Aeon slick anime, nothing really bothers me. But I'm not even sure how to describe the current direction other then to say fugly. Please do something or tell us this is your direction so we can choose our games accordingly.

Wildmage
07-21-2007, 01:05 AM
keep in mind that while you are entitled to your opinion on aesthetics, others who play the same game may disagree.

Cerios
07-21-2007, 01:19 AM
People can disagree all they want, I just want to know if the SOD models are an example of where the game is headed so that I can move on. I'm cool with the idea of moving on if they choose to make these decisions, I won't whine or [Removed for Content] I will just leave. Hell I am pretty easy to please when it comes to graphics, as long as its not so ugly that it interferes with my gameplay you won't hear me say much but when I hear people I play with say that they won't get a vital piece of equipment because its just plain to ugly? and I have a hard time calling them whiners then its obviously a pretty dramatically ugly item. Like I said though I just want to know if the SOD's are an example of where the game is headed because if it is then I don't want to put more time into the game when I could be starting on a new one.

Arkast
07-21-2007, 01:19 AM
Er, I saw it for the first time today on someone at the bank, and I immediately complimented them on their cool-looking weapon.

Guy De Alsace
07-21-2007, 10:56 AM
<p>While that weapon joins the ranks of items such as the Qeynos Claymore as pure comedy weapons (blow up hammer from Toys-r-us anyone <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />) I think the overall design ethic is still there. There's some really neat looking stuff coming out at the moment and SOE look to have perfected some of their particle systems since I'm seeing more and more particle enabled stuff appearing that looks so cool I cant complain.</p><p>I think a person in SOE's design department loves huge weapons (a la Manga). On an Ogre it looks passable, on a Halfling you just have to point and laugh...</p>

Wildmage
07-21-2007, 12:01 PM
considering years upon years of people posting for more fantastic weapons, then as soon as they do try to put in some more unrealistic weapons people start complaining about that.  Theres no pleasing people, I pity the developers.

FlamFlam
07-21-2007, 04:07 PM
Can somebody post a screenshot of the hammer? Im rather curious.

Hannalynn
07-21-2007, 04:26 PM
<cite>Cerios wrote:</cite><blockquote>But this hammer is a different level. To have a reached a level of bad that I dread the idea of looking at a weapon, I really have to begin to wonder what is happening - please if your going to make weapons that look this [I cannot control my vocabulary] please allow some kind of option to turn the graphics to something that someone with a 50+ IQ and a maturity level about age 6 will find appealing. </blockquote>This seems like a rather unnecessary and immature thing to say about people who happen to find the hammer's graphics appealing. Just because a person thinks something looks very nice or graphically appealing, doesn't mean they are immature or stupid with low IQ's. It's this attitude in games that ruins it for a lot of people. And to add, I personally thing the hammer looks very nice, and the soulfire firey aura looks impressive as well.

Cerios
07-23-2007, 07:40 PM
While I would like to thank the nascar fans for coming out and supporting their cause, the fact remains that out of about 40 people online in my guild exactly 2 of them didn't find this weapon incredibly ugly. If they are going to make singular  - must have - end game - items for each expansion (Im looking at you epic) then they should try to give them appeal to a wide variety of people. These weapons don't. I don't care if 50% of the population finds them awesome looking, if the other 50% finds them uber ugly then SOE has failed. If they want to throw some ugly [Removed for Content] graphics around on other weapons - as in weapons that people can avoid using - thats fine but putting it onto a weapon that everyone is going to consider a raiding must is one of those sub 50 IQ moves.

Hannalynn
07-23-2007, 09:21 PM
<cite>Cerios wrote:</cite><blockquote>While I would like to thank the nascar fans for coming out and supporting their cause, the fact remains that out of about 40 people online in my guild exactly 2 of them didn't find this weapon incredibly ugly. If they are going to make singular  - must have - end game - items for each expansion (Im looking at you epic) then they should try to give them appeal to a wide variety of people. These weapons don't. I don't care if 50% of the population finds them awesome looking, if the other 50% finds them uber ugly then SOE has failed. If they want to throw some ugly [I cannot control my vocabulary] graphics around on other weapons - as in weapons that people can avoid using - thats fine but putting it onto a weapon that everyone is going to consider a raiding must is one of those sub 50 IQ moves. </blockquote>I have no idea what nascar even is and I'm not going to bother looking it up, but from what you're saying I am going to assume that you're one of those people who only really hears their side of the argument and doesn't care to consider anyone who opposes it worth their time. Therefore I will just leave this argument here and enjoy my awesome looking hammer <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Cerios
07-24-2007, 01:51 AM
<cite>Hannalynn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Cerios wrote:</cite><blockquote>While I would like to thank the nascar fans for coming out and supporting their cause, the fact remains that out of about 40 people online in my guild exactly 2 of them didn't find this weapon incredibly ugly. If they are going to make singular  - must have - end game - items for each expansion (Im looking at you epic) then they should try to give them appeal to a wide variety of people. These weapons don't. I don't care if 50% of the population finds them awesome looking, if the other 50% finds them uber ugly then SOE has failed. If they want to throw some ugly [I cannot control my vocabulary] graphics around on other weapons - as in weapons that people can avoid using - thats fine but putting it onto a weapon that everyone is going to consider a raiding must is one of those sub 50 IQ moves. </blockquote>I have no idea what nascar even is and I'm not going to bother looking it up, but from what you're saying I am going to assume that you're one of those people who only really hears their side of the argument and doesn't care to consider anyone who opposes it worth their time. Therefore I will just leave this argument here and enjoy my awesome looking hammer <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </blockquote>No, the circumstance is you have no point. Your arguing the inane and obvious truth of the "everyones got different tastes" like somehow their is no way to please a large portion of the population in this circumstance. You like the hammer I get it, you don't like it being implied that you have a sub 50 IQ or that you have no taste, I get it. I just don't really care what your opinion on the particular artistic merit of this piece. their is clearly a large enough portion of the population that thinks this looks brutal that it can't be described as anything but a failure. Now I have never been a fan over the top models, but I hardly flinched at the fact that my paladin's relic armor is bright yellow, or the fact that weather I choose the Qeynos Claymore, or the Qeynos Guard I am going to wind up with one UGLY piece of equipment. Bad graphics generally roll off my back, but if they are going to continue to make weapons in this style then I only hope that Vanguards re-release is actually for a finished product because I would imagine with the combination of insanely easy game play and insanely ugly end game graphics this game won't have a whole lot of appeal for anyone who actually plays games like this for any length of time.

Hikinami
07-24-2007, 03:16 AM
What exactly do people dislike about this weapon? Is it color, size, shape, effect?

Mabes
07-24-2007, 10:52 AM
It's a little, how should I put, over the top, exageratedly large.  I didn't care for it at first, though I admit it's kinda growing on me, and I have received several random tells saying things like "cool hammer", so really it's a personal opinion.  I do love the glyphs on the hammer edge, the whole handle/hilt design of it, the particle effect, the only thing I don't care for is how over the top big the hammer-head is, but overall I'm happy it's a unique graphic, that is something different.  I can't stand when high end gear has recycled graphics of regular junk.

Sinful One
07-24-2007, 11:24 AM
the qeynos claymore,guard and kilij are all good looking weapons, as is the soulfire ones including the hammer, yes the hammer does like a lil silly so what? its a game, would you like to run around with a pair of rusty daggers? or a ordinary rusty mace? like somebody has said i do pity the developers, people say they want one thing and others say they want another thing. if ones implemented the other complains im sure you can find an item near enough to the hammers stats that will suit your tastes <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> good luck

Besual
07-24-2007, 11:31 AM
I will continue the quest with my defiler because the hammer just looks to ugly. Only if SOE shrinks the head size of the hammer to 50% or adds a /hide_weapon command I may continue.

The_Real_Ohno
07-24-2007, 12:12 PM
<p>^^ dont u mean u wont continue the quest?</p><p>Anyways, Ive done the questline from start to finish, liked the Lucanic Hammer, but the Fabled version look better, particle effects I always love to see on weapons, or anythin for that matter.</p><p>Props devs for a cool lookin Hammer! <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Salox
07-24-2007, 12:13 PM
All these weapons you can get from the end-game quest lines are all very well done. I love the way they did the Qeynos weapons, and I really love the way they did the Soulfire weapons. The hammer looks fine to me. I love the runes and everything. There is only one weapon I disagree with when it comes to the Soulfire weapons, which is the two hander, but the devs have already stated that a new version of the two hander is coming out. Don't go about thinking your opinion is better than anyone else's by saying "That's nice. The fact still remains... blah blah blah". Besides, quiting a game over the way one weapon looks is very, VERY stupid.

Echgar
07-24-2007, 12:31 PM
<cite>Cerios wrote:</cite><blockquote> please allow some kind of option to turn the graphics to something that someone with a 50+ IQ and a maturity level about age 6 will find appealing. </blockquote>Let's leave the insults out of this discussion please.  Different players will have different tastes and it is important that <i>everyone</i> with an opinion on the item being discussed here respect the opinions of others.  You are welcome to disagree with others, but do not let your disagreement turn to personal attacks.  In-game topics often fuel a great deal of passion among players, which is a good thing, but when disagreement turns personal the bickering begins to overshadow the actual issue being discussed and it ends up getting lost in the noise.

Vehx
07-24-2007, 01:36 PM
<p>Im just curious I know everyone is opinionated,but.</p><p>Out of this whole thread I read one other person that dislikes it lol,instead of trying to plea a case or something about how ugly the hammer is</p><p>why not get the 38 of ure other friends to post,might have more of an impact on the way ya see the ugly hammer?</p><p>Otherwise I highly doubt that anything will change with your rant and slanders about other people having their opinions..</p><p>btw the hammer rocks <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Catseyes
07-25-2007, 07:46 AM
does it looks like the stormhammer ? this one is awesome  already and i dream to see the fabled version of lucanic hammer <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> anyone got pics to link of the two versions ?

Salox
07-25-2007, 01:27 PM
Cats, it looks like this. Legendary version is the same thing without particle effects. <img src="http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/8600/luchamexp1fm9.jpg" border="0">

Wildmage
07-25-2007, 02:08 PM
Salox@The Bazaar wrote: <blockquote>Cats, it looks like this. Legendary version is the same thing without particle effects. <img src="http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/8600/luchamexp1fm9.jpg" border="0"> </blockquote>Thats not too big, only real complaint I would have is the striking surface is a bit small, if it widened out a bit more would seem more functional.