Can you betray as a SK and stay one?

[_Kryogeni]

Can you betray as a SK and remain an SK, or do you have to become a Paladin if you betray?

[Wilin]

It all depends on your destination city. If you betray to a good city, you have to become a pally. If you betray to an evil city, you can stay a SK.

[Lord Montague]

<p>Regardless, your spells and CA's will reset to App I if a nd when you finish up betrayal.</p><p>Still, in this case betrayal only makes sense to do if you're going from a good city to an evil city or vice versa.  Changing citizenship to an equally aligned city is a whole other matter (i.e., moving to Freeport to Neriak is not betrayal, yeah you could probably do it through the betrayal quests but why?).</p>

[gatrm]

Although, if you just want to go from Freeport to Neriak, or the reverse, there is no need to betray.  You can just do a citizenship quest (at least going to Neriak) without ever going exile or losing your spells

[Stuge]

<span style="font-family: courier new,courier">You are only hit with the spell/skill reset if you change <i>alignments</i>, not cities.  That is, if you switch citizenships to Neriak or even if you betray Freeport and go to Haven you will remain an SK and keep all of your current spells/skills at their current levels.  It is only when you switch your alignment completely and become a paladin (earn citizenship in a "good" city) that you get the big reset. </span>

[Amonrax]

<p><hr /><span style="font-family: courier new,courier"><span style="color: #d2c5a9">You are only hit with the spell/skill reset if you change <i>alignments</i>, not cities.  That is, if you switch citizenships to Neriak or even if you betray Freeport and go to Haven you will remain an SK and keep all of your current spells/skills at their current levels.  It is only when you switch your alignment completely and become a paladin (earn citizenship in a "good" city) that you get the big reset.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">... You know thats exactally what i thought then stupid me went and betrayed freeport to go to haven then did the quests to allign to neriak there both evil and my spells should be safe cuase im not changeing classes...upon finshing it destryed all my characters m1's (had 98% of them) and set them back to app 1 >_< all i can really say is i dont know whats stupider that for happening or me for doing it lol if you wanna switch citys you dont need to betray to haven cause that will kill all you spells /skills at the end, you just go talk to the citizen ship npcs in you new same allignment citys</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">Amonrax</span></p>

[Stuge]

<cite>Amonrax wrote:</cite><blockquote><hr /><span style="font-family: courier new,courier"><span style="color: #d2c5a9">You are only hit with the spell/skill reset if you change <i>alignments</i>, not cities.  That is, if you switch citizenships to Neriak or even if you betray Freeport and go to Haven you will remain an SK and keep all of your current spells/skills at their current levels.  It is only when you switch your alignment completely and become a paladin (earn citizenship in a "good" city) that you get the big reset.</span></span><p><span style="color: #339900">... You know thats exactally what i thought then stupid me went and betrayed freeport to go to haven then did the quests to allign to neriak there both evil and my spells should be safe cuase im not changeing classes...upon finshing it destryed all my characters m1's (had 98% of them) and set them back to app 1 >_< all i can really say is i dont know whats stupider that for happening or me for doing it lol if you wanna switch citys you dont need to betray to haven cause that will kill all you spells /skills at the end, you just go talk to the citizen ship npcs in you new same allignment citys</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">Amonrax</span></p></blockquote><span style="font-family: courier new,courier">Oof.  Yeah.  Betraying doesn't reset your class/skills until you "complete" the betrayal.  Neriak is an ally city, you just should have done the citizenship quest without betraying and you would've been fine.  You can betray Freeport and go to Haven and remain an SK with all your skills not reset, but if you do so you have to STAY in haven.  As soon as you complete the faction/citizenship portion of the betrayal process (even if it's just to go /back/ to Freeport) then you will get reset. Freeport -> Haven = No reset Freeport -> Neriak = No reset (don't betray, do the citizenship quest and just move there) Freeport -> Haven -> <i>Anywhere</i> = Reset</span>

[Amonrax]

<p>Oof.  Yeah.  Betraying doesn't reset your class/skills until you "complete" the betrayal.  Neriak is an ally city, you just should have done the citizenship quest without betraying and you would've been fine.  You can betray Freeport and go to Haven and remain an SK with all your skills not reset, but if you do so you have to STAY in haven.  As soon as you complete the faction/citizenship portion of the betrayal process (even if it's just to go /back/ to Freeport) then you will get reset. Freeport -> Haven = No reset Freeport -> Neriak = No reset (don't betray, do the citizenship quest and just move there) Freeport -> Haven -> <i>Anywhere</i> = Reset </p><p><span style="color: #339900">Well to be honest i never really had much intrerest in neriak till i seen the blue horses basicly my plan was to betray to Haven and pretty much just stay there cause it reminded me so much of being a sk in eq1 there was something oddly fun about being kos to everyone even you own city and haveing to live in caves and tunnles and being able to kill anything without worry but in the end it was that shiney blue horse that lured me back to city life and did me in lol</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">But on the up side i got the server Discovery on "A Human Child" getting to that part of neriak citizenship before anyone else</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">Amonrax</span></p>

[Norrsken]

<cite>Amonrax wrote:</cite><blockquote> <p><span style="color: #339900">But on the up side i got the server Discovery on "A Human Child" getting to that part of neriak citizenship before anyone else</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">Amonrax</span></p></blockquote>was it crunchy? <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[SinVraal]

<cite>Amonrax wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Oof.  Yeah.  Betraying doesn't reset your class/skills until you "complete" the betrayal.  Neriak is an ally city, you just should have done the citizenship quest without betraying and you would've been fine.  You can betray Freeport and go to Haven and remain an SK with all your skills not reset, but if you do so you have to STAY in haven.  As soon as you complete the faction/citizenship portion of the betrayal process (even if it's just to go /back/ to Freeport) then you will get reset. Freeport -> Haven = No reset Freeport -> Neriak = No reset (don't betray, do the citizenship quest and just move there) Freeport -> Haven -> <i>Anywhere</i> = Reset </p><p><span style="color: #339900">Well to be honest i never really had much intrerest in neriak till i seen the blue horses basicly my plan was to betray to Haven and pretty much just stay there cause it reminded me so much of being a sk in eq1 there was something oddly fun about being kos to everyone even you own city and haveing to live in caves and tunnles and being able to kill anything without worry but in the end it was that shiney blue horse that lured me back to city life and did me in lol</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">But on the up side i got the server Discovery on "A Human Child" getting to that part of neriak citizenship before anyone else</span></p><p><span style="color: #339900">Amonrax</span></p></blockquote><p>What happens if I take up residence in Maj-Dul ...</p><p>Is this a good city or bad one? </p>

[Korpo]

Neutral.

[SinVraal]

can I stay SK then?

[Stuge]

<cite>SinVraal wrote:</cite><blockquote>can I stay SK then?</blockquote><span style="font-family: courier new,courier"> Yes.  Moving to Maj`Dul is just that - moving.  You aren't betraying Freeport/Neriak or changing alignment.  It's a neutral town, not "a good" one. I've noticed that people toss around "betrayal" to mean any changing of cities, but it's not.  Betrayal is a specific, alignment altering set of quest-lines.</span>

[SinVraal]

Stugein@Antonia Bayle wrote: <blockquote><cite>SinVraal wrote:</cite><blockquote>can I stay SK then?</blockquote><span style="font-family: courier new,courier"> Yes.  Moving to Maj`Dul is just that - moving.  You aren't betraying Freeport/Neriak or changing alignment.  It's a neutral town, not "a good" one. I've noticed that people toss around "betrayal" to mean any changing of cities, but it's not.  Betrayal is a specific, alignment altering set of quest-lines.</span> </blockquote> I'm curious, can you then do both qeynos / freeport quests now? or neither? What allows you to do certain quests like in TT in the little froglock village for the sacred stones etc?

[SinVraal]

<p>Actually what  I think your saying is that I'm still evil, but living in a neutral city etc? </p><p>So only the evil side is open? though I'm curious if this logic works for a neutral class like wizard or something, what would happen then if I was in a neutral city?</p>

[Norrsken]

<cite>SinVraal wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Actually what  I think your saying is that I'm still evil, but living in a neutral city etc? </p><p>So only the evil side is open? though I'm curious if this logic works for a neutral class like wizard or something, what would happen then if I was in a neutral city?</p></blockquote>you would still belong to your faction, evil or good. you'd just live in a city where people couldnt care less who you think your ruler is.

[CHIMPNOODLE.]

<p>Its most likely tied to the toon, not the class. You'd be a neutral class...but a good or evil Toon living in a neutral city.</p>