Amazing.

[TerabithianWhisperwi]

So I've reached 52. I did 51 and 52 in two days of casual [Removed for Content]-kicking. Having ice comet, with ball of incineration, and manaburn to boot is like pure bliss, and well worth the earlier deaths in my newbie-dom. The AGI tree has treated me VERY well....I am sending nasty stuff out there quicker. I grouped in Klak'Anon at level 45, in a full group where the next lowest was 52, and I parsed solidly 3rd. That is with me being SEVEN levels lower than anyone else. Absolutely awesome. I can mez, and root, and stun, and nuke HARD. I can take on groups, and can teleport around making travelling immeasurably faster. My evac and I are good friends. What a great class. Sure, I'll go down quick in a fist-fight, but that's not really an issue. Resists are still a part of keeping me on my toes, but they are FAAAAARRRR better than earlier in my career. I eat heroics for breakfast, and LOVE running into named mobs. I rarely need help, and it's usually because my objective is in an area with multiple heroics and no resting-area. I am looking forward in a couple of levels of FINALLY seeing the KoS content for the very first time, even though I bought the expansion when it launched. What a great class. I am completely happy with it. -Morticandarius Rathbourne of Mistmoore still needs a sig.

[IllusiveThoughts]

<cite>TerabithianWhisperwind wrote:</cite><blockquote> So I've reached 52. I did 51 and 52 in two days of casual [I cannot control my vocabulary]-kicking. Having ice comet, with ball of incineration, and manaburn to boot is like pure bliss, and well worth the earlier deaths in my newbie-dom. The AGI tree has treated me VERY well....I am sending nasty stuff out there quicker. I grouped in Klak'Anon at level 45, in a full group where the next lowest was 52, and I parsed solidly 3rd. That is with me being SEVEN levels lower than anyone else. Absolutely awesome. I can mez, and root, and stun, and nuke HARD. I can take on groups, and can teleport around making travelling immeasurably faster. My evac and I are good friends. What a great class. Sure, I'll go down quick in a fist-fight, but that's not really an issue. Resists are still a part of keeping me on my toes, but they are FAAAAARRRR better than earlier in my career. I eat heroics for breakfast, and LOVE running into named mobs. I rarely need help, and it's usually because my objective is in an area with multiple heroics and no resting-area. I am looking forward in a couple of levels of FINALLY seeing the KoS content for the very first time, even though I bought the expansion when it launched. What a great class. I am completely happy with it. -Morticandarius Rathbourne of Mistmoore still needs a sig. </blockquote>glad you stuck it out, we told ya it would get better <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[sammythebull]

<p>I dunno, in the past I'd been generally happy with the class but recently, doing EoF raid content in a raid full of decked out players with skill, we simply can't hang w/ predators and even warlocks. In fact, I'd put us on par (barely) with summoners and rogues. It's incredibly frustrating being destroyed on the parse. I know some here will say there's nothing wrong and say I'm not playing the class right but sorry, I have a firm grasp on using my skills in the most efficient way possible, have pretty much full fabled (1/2 KoS, 1/2 EoF), mastered out, tried both Agi/Wis and Agi/Str recently, etc. I top out at around 1800 for single target in a usual group (troub, sometimes fury, sometimes coercer). Meanwhile the assassins, necros, warlocks are anywhere from 2300-2800 average. </p><p>There was simply no logical reason for the Brainstorm nerf, fusion needs a larger radius w/o spending AA points on it, and our casting speed needs a hike on top of the Agi tree bonus. We can't all have time compression on us, in fact any raid that wastes it on a wiz isn't putting it to best use. </p><p>Sorry to be a downer, i'm just a lil frustrated today. Please save the suggestions, I've read just about every tactics thread on here and gave everything a try, I'm convinced i'm doing as much dps as i'm capable of. </p>

[IllusiveThoughts]

<cite>sammythebull wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I dunno, in the past I'd been generally happy with the class but recently, doing EoF raid content in a raid full of decked out players with skill, we simply can't hang w/ predators and even warlocks. In fact, I'd put us on par (barely) with summoners and rogues. It's incredibly frustrating being destroyed on the parse. I know some here will say there's nothing wrong and say I'm not playing the class right but sorry, I have a firm grasp on using my skills in the most efficient way possible, have pretty much full fabled (1/2 KoS, 1/2 EoF), mastered out, tried both Agi/Wis and Agi/Str recently, etc. I top out at around 1800 for single target in a usual group (troub, sometimes fury, sometimes coercer). Meanwhile the assassins, necros, warlocks are anywhere from 2300-2800 average. </p><p>There was simply no logical reason for the Brainstorm nerf, fusion needs a larger radius w/o spending AA points on it, and our casting speed needs a hike on top of the Agi tree bonus. We can't all have time compression on us, in fact any raid that wastes it on a wiz isn't putting it to best use. </p><p>Sorry to be a downer, i'm just a lil frustrated today. Please save the suggestions, I've read just about every tactics thread on here and gave everything a try, I'm convinced i'm doing as much dps as i'm capable of. </p></blockquote>hello thread de-rail.

[Mirander_1]

Ah yes, It's great when you get one of those spells that represent a turning point in the class, isn't it? <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> The first time you use Ice Comet (or later on, Fusion), is one of those points where you just look at the damage numbers and say to yourself, "I. Am. God!"

[Dextera]

<cite>sammythebull wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I dunno, in the past I'd been generally happy with the class but recently, doing EoF raid content in a raid full of decked out players with skill, we simply can't hang w/ predators and even warlocks. In fact, I'd put us on par (barely) with summoners and rogues. It's incredibly frustrating being destroyed on the parse. I know some here will say there's nothing wrong and say I'm not playing the class right but sorry, I have a firm grasp on using my skills in the most efficient way possible, have pretty much full fabled (1/2 KoS, 1/2 EoF), mastered out, tried both Agi/Wis and Agi/Str recently, etc. I top out at around 1800 for single target in a usual group (troub, sometimes fury, sometimes coercer). Meanwhile the assassins, necros, warlocks are anywhere from 2300-2800 average. </p><p>There was simply no logical reason for the Brainstorm nerf, fusion needs a larger radius w/o spending AA points on it, and our casting speed needs a hike on top of the Agi tree bonus. We can't all have time compression on us, in fact any raid that wastes it on a wiz isn't putting it to best use</p><p>Sorry to be a downer, i'm just a lil frustrated today. Please save the suggestions, I've read just about every tactics thread on here and gave everything a try, I'm convinced i'm doing as much dps as i'm capable of. </p></blockquote> Wizards with a Troub (no Illusionist) in KoS Fabled/EoF Legendary can parse 2k-3k, so you're doing something wrong. We're definitely not broken. And TC is will benefit a Wizard in a majority of the encounters in this game (Warlocks should get it for AoE DPS, like Avatar/CMayong adds, etc.)

[suroktheslayer5]

Ah yes, now you see the true power of the wiz <img src="/smilies/908627bbe5e9f6a080977db8c365caff.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <img src="http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b344/suroktheslayer/Suroksig.jpg" border="0">

[Ilivarra]

Amazing.

[Kaldrin]

<cite>TerabithianWhisperwind wrote:</cite><blockquote> So I've reached 52. I did 51 and 52 in two days of casual [I cannot control my vocabulary]-kicking. Having ice comet, with ball of incineration, and manaburn to boot is like pure bliss, and well worth the earlier deaths in my newbie-dom. </blockquote> Heh... I read that initially as you reached 52 in two days of casual play... I was about to object when I read the quote again. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Kwoung]

I tried a few different classes in beta.. but went with a wizzy come release to group with my wife (a defiler) and have never regretted one moment of it... wizzies do rock and those turning point spells growing up.. yeah they were awesome to get. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Ohez]

<cite>sammythebull wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I dunno, in the past I'd been generally happy with the class but recently, doing EoF raid content in a raid full of decked out players with skill, we simply can't hang w/ predators and even warlocks. </p></blockquote>Interesting.  On the Warlock forum they say they are gimped compared to Wizzys.  Every class forum states they are gimped compared to other classes.  I think that must mean classes are about right.

[Zansobar]

I'm quite dismayed that summoners parse so high on the raid dps.  This is not balanced in my opinion, since they are the best soloers in the game, they should not also be that good for raid groups.

[Kordianjr]

<cite>Zansobar wrote:</cite><blockquote>I'm quite dismayed that summoners parse so high on the raid dps.  This is not balanced in my opinion, since they are the best soloers in the game, they should not also be that good for raid groups. </blockquote> Summoners may do better than us againest a group of single ups while soloing, but when it comes to 1 on 1 fights they don't hold a candle to a well played wizard.  At lvl 70 I've taken out 75^^^ heroic named that would eat the summoners for breakfast.  Once I've had to solo Sothis in hof because the groups tank couldn't take the hits.  The rest of the group had to look on while tore his [Removed for Content] up.   When it comes to raids though necro's can do a bit more than us, although with the right group we can keep right up there with them.  Honestly raid dps is more a matter of teamwork with the right buffs, than what just the class can do.  (Watch the summoners dps go down if you don't cast frigid gift. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> )  As for conjurors the only time they out dps me is if I died.  On another note, wait till you get to bonemire in kos, lots of single mobs all by themselves. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  My personal favorite wizzy soloing area.