Are Some Characters Just 'Unlucky'?

[Gorhauth]

I have several crafters, most maxed.  These include Provisioner, Sage, Jeweler and leveling up an Alchemist again (deleted my level 50 one during T5 because raiding as an illusionist was so bad, I didn't want to ever do it again).  I know how to craft, I've done tons of Wurmslayer and BCG combines for friends and never really had a problem with it.  Most of my characters are able to do rush orders and have time to hit the broker to get more materials if I run out. That is, except for one of my characters. I started a Weaponsmith back in T5 and struggled every combine to get pristine.  I let hit rot at 47 until KoS came out, then leveled him up to get BCG (he's a Conj).  Even then, he was having a problem with almost every combine, where critical failures seemed to occur more than critical success, or even normal success.  His BCG was an epic battle that I swear took over 15 minutes - but that was probably because he wasn't 70. So I thought it was Weaponsmithing that was just killing me, and as soon as the tradeskill counselors made an appearance I jumped all over the chance to get another tradeskill.  He became a Woodworker. He is struggling just as mightily with Woodworking as he was with Weaponsmithing.  Every combine is a crap shoot on whether or not he is going to get pristine.  I have yet to complete a rush order (and woodworkers leave plenty of time to try) successfully, mainly because he has never gotten six pristines in a row. Did he just pick the two least forgiving tradeskills or is he just unlucky and I should never craft with him again?

[dancemice]

I feel your pain. Every Pristine seems to be a struggle with me, I often wonder how people can enjoy crafting so much. When i get thousands of app3's and 2's for every app 4 i get as a sage.. -B-

[ashen1973]

This is a topic that comes up on a regular basis. From my own experience ( i have every craft skill over 50, most at cap, spread over 2 accounts) I don't have any difficulty hitting pristine everytime on every character, although some do take a little longer than others (my weaponsmith seems to have a harder time of it, and for some reason it seems that imbuing a tier2 weapon takes just as long as imbuing a tier7!). But, enough people have commented on this for me to start thinking there may be something to it. All you can do is set yourself up as well as you can. read all the stickies at top of this page for some good advice and realise that each profession has slightly different counters than others. Study each counter and decide which is best to use, it may not always be beneficial to use the highest level counter you have (except when needing skillups, as it seems you get more skillups when using the highest level counter you can) wish i could find a way to bribe/threaten/coerce that [I cannot control my vocabulary] RNG into being a bit more friendly <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Sunrayn]

<p>I put it down to sheer bad RNG.  Yesterday, I was cooking up some food on my provvie.  Two combines in a row, I lost a bar and a half of durability before I got even one single positive tic.</p><p>Sometimes crafting is a crap shoot, you roll the dice and pray the RNG Gods are nice to you.</p>

[Lortet]

<p>I have 7 crafters (and about 5 more deleted over time), and have encountered this "unlucky character effect" - 6 of my characters - no problem, three of them in the 60's atm. I am familiar with the guides etc. Players responding with "check the guides etc" may be well meaning but they must not have had one of these "red headed stepcrafters" before!</p><p>Don't have any current problems except the armorer (lvl 62) - rush orders are a joke with him - about 2/3 of the writ is the max possible in the allowable time - despite crafting in the same manner my tailor, sage, alchemist or jeweller who can do them with minutes to spare. I can consistently get pristine with him, but it may take 4 minutes or so to do it.</p><p>Then there is the dreadful - Had this with a woodworker, took him to 30 - doing everything correctly - I even got a rough result once - and the thing was - he rarely got critical fails, it was just that despite using durability buffs with crafting skill maxed - the durability would drop every single tic for 8 - 9 tics in a row (any events countered as well). Changing to progress buffs in frustration would result in faster progress but the durability plummeting even faster. Deleted the character and recently started another woodie - and not a problem seen - it is just an amazing difference.</p>

[Jrral]

My opinion: yes, some accounts are unlucky. I can see this with harvesting. I started a test account using just the EQ2 Classic set, levelled a character on it up to 19, 95 harvest skills, and now I'm doing a side-by-side comparison of harvest results in T3 vs. my level-59 295-skills main. So far what I find is the 95-skill character has about 2-3x the probability of hitting a 5-pull as the 295-skill character. As far as variability goes, yes there's day-to-day variations but so far my best day on the 295-skill character is still worse than the <i>worst</i> day on the 95-skill character. To me that just seems completely and fundamentally wrong. And if it can affect harvesting like that, I have to think it can affect crafting as well. That'd be consistent with what I see, anyway. Hopefully by the time ComicCon and the SOE block party come up next weekend I'll have a nice block of numbers and one of the relevant devs will be cornerable.

[Calthine]

I have a guildie who is a major crafter, but has one toon who cannot seem to craft to save her life.... Then there's me.  Fine on crating, but HORRIBLE luck on the lotto.  A guildie and I went and did Maj'Dul guards one day to test it, just him and I.  Pure lotto, no declining, over 3 hours I got less than 1/4 the drops.

[mappam]

<p><span style="color: #99ffcc">Oh I Agree - I have been known to delete a character because she is SO unlucky! Can't fight to save her life (parden the pun) and NEVER finds chests or shinnies or good loot!</span></p><p><span style="color: #99ffcc">I have often wondered why this is?? Most of my characters are Medium Lucky - and some days seem luckier than other days - but there ARE characters that are - what - born under the wrong sign?</span></p><p><span style="color: #99ffcc">I keep hopeing I will roll a Super Lucky Character <img src="/smilies/ed515dbff23a0ee3241dcc0a601c9ed6.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></span></p>

[pantswearer]

<p>LOL, I remember once I looted a "Lucky Rabbit's Foot" on one of the noob islands. It didn't appear to actually DO anything, but hey...</p><p>Seriously though, I don't have any particularly lucky or unlucky characters. I do have a guildmate though, who just oozes luck. She can consistently pull at least 1 rare/ hour. She won 3 of her EoF armor set pieces in one night. The other day I was using my lvl 69 Sage (345 in all harvesting skills) to search for silver clusters for a new alt and had NO luck. This guildmate of mine grouped with me, zoned into Ant, and I had 3 silver clusters, 2 rare loams, and a Sisal root within a half hour. </p>

[Minelarie]

<p>I have often asked this question as well....</p><p> I have a lvl 45 Carpenter (my main adv char) & a lvl 70 Provisioner (only lvl 19 adventure)</p><p> On the carp I can do rush orders all day long and just pump pristine stuff out like mad, however, the provisioner can't do rush orders & has to pound the durability keys like mad (& still fails regularly) to the point of having to wait for mana regen in between attempts. Extremely frustrating! She has even failed with the Provisioner's insight buff active. </p><p>As you can see I toughed it out, but, OMG was it agonizing & frustrating!!</p><p>Everyone I have talked to about it just says "It's just luck of the draw"<img src="/smilies/136dd33cba83140c7ce38db096d05aed.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Raveller]

On all of my crafters, the only time I fail to make pristine is if I'm asleep at the keyboard. Also, crafting when completely [Removed for Content] faced doesn't work so well.

[Raveller]

Jrral@Unrest wrote: <blockquote>My opinion: yes, some accounts are unlucky. I can see this with harvesting. I started a test account using just the EQ2 Classic set, levelled a character on it up to 19, 95 harvest skills, and now I'm doing a side-by-side comparison of harvest results in T3 vs. my level-59 295-skills main. So far what I find is the 95-skill character has about 2-3x the probability of hitting a 5-pull as the 295-skill character. As far as variability goes, yes there's day-to-day variations but so far my best day on the 295-skill character is still worse than the <i>worst</i> day on the 95-skill character. To me that just seems completely and fundamentally wrong. And if it can affect harvesting like that, I have to think it can affect crafting as well. That'd be consistent with what I see, anyway. Hopefully by the time ComicCon and the SOE block party come up next weekend I'll have a nice block of numbers and one of the relevant devs will be cornerable. </blockquote> I'm already feeling sorry for that unlucky dev.

[Ookami-san]

<p>Yes... some characters are "LUCKY" and some are "UNLUCKY".  Take my friend and I.  He harvests for 1 hour and gets 3-4 rares.  I harvest for 4 hours and get 1... on good days.</p><p>So what you say?</p><p>The problem is... it's consistant.  Even other guildies notice it.  He has the lucky of the irish... or is it gnomes?  I... have no luck.</p>

[Rijacki]

<cite>Calthine wrote:</cite><blockquote>I have a guildie who is a major crafter, but has one toon who cannot seem to craft to save her life.... Then there's me.  Fine on crating, but HORRIBLE luck on the lotto.  A guildie and I went and did Maj'Dul guards one day to test it, just him and I.  Pure lotto, no declining, over 3 hours I got less than 1/4 the drops. </blockquote> Any time I comment on my lack of luck getting drops, I'm told that I'm just imagining or being pessimistic.  I have cleared my bags of everything and rolled on everything and the only drops I get are ones others decline and about 1/4 as many as the other lowest member of the group.  Same with duoing with my boyfriend (one of the ones who claims I am being pessimistic), he gets at least 2/3 of the drops when I roll on everything.  His inventory fills up and mine is still mostly empty and he still refuses to believe I have bad luck with drops... but my bad luck isn't with just one character, sadly. But.. I will admit, too, there are rare times when the loot RNG likes me and I get nearly the same number of drops as normal people *chuckle*.

[Illmarr]

The Alchemist I level I had to stop from frustration Sunday morning trying to go from 65 to 66. I'm hearing that fail sound and seeing red flashes in my sleep. She's the unluckiest crafter of the 7 I've leveled over 60. I even failed a rush order while paying attention. I can't recall the last one I failed before that.

[Wallzak]

<p>In general, I find this comes in clusters.</p><p>One night (week, month) I can't win anything to save my life, the next time I win everything (this is the reason I never decline... I figure it all balances out).</p><p>Same with harvesting... one time I'm plucking rares out of the air, the next time nothing... for hours.</p><p>Transmuting... once I spent 5 plat buying t6 items to mute to raise my skill... had less than 10% powder/frag ratio, the next 30%+</p><p>Crafting... again, one combine bang - pristine - its done, the next I fight for mintues and I barely get pristine (however, I can always get pristine if I care enough, at times I get sloppy, let the bar fall too low and lose it at the end).</p><p>I really find it balances out over time (with the exception of /ran 100... I rarely win those).</p>

[Devilsbane]

<cite>mappam wrote:</cite><blockquote><p><span style="color: #99ffcc">Oh I Agree - I have been known to delete a character because she is SO unlucky! Can't fight to save her life (parden the pun) and NEVER finds chests or shinnies or good loot!</span></p><p><span style="color: #99ffcc">I have often wondered why this is?? Most of my characters are Medium Lucky - and some days seem luckier than other days - but there ARE characters that are - what - born under the wrong sign?</span></p><p><span style="color: #99ffcc">I keep hopeing I will roll a Super Lucky Character <img src="/smilies/ed515dbff23a0ee3241dcc0a601c9ed6.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></span></p></blockquote><p>I have been waiting for the right thread to post this screenshot from a trip into Blackburrow about a week ago.</p><p> <img src="http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/2867/eq2000063ri6.jpg" border="0"></p>

[Lortet]

Nice one Devilsbane - I had a similar one where I got an exquisite chest but was badly hurt, and while waiting to heal before opening it got aggroed by a trash mob wanderer - that dropped another exquisite - and then both had the same Master - Rescue (for those that don't know, rescue is never superceded, so while only lvl 25 is very sought after)

[Raveller]

<cite>Rijacki wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Calthine wrote:</cite><blockquote>I have a guildie who is a major crafter, but has one toon who cannot seem to craft to save her life.... Then there's me.  Fine on crating, but HORRIBLE luck on the lotto.  A guildie and I went and did Maj'Dul guards one day to test it, just him and I.  Pure lotto, no declining, over 3 hours I got less than 1/4 the drops. </blockquote> Any time I comment on my lack of luck getting drops, I'm told that I'm just imagining or being pessimistic.  I have cleared my bags of everything and rolled on everything and the only drops I get are ones others decline and about 1/4 as many as the other lowest member of the group.  Same with duoing with my boyfriend (one of the ones who claims I am being pessimistic), he gets at least 2/3 of the drops when I roll on everything.  His inventory fills up and mine is still mostly empty and he still refuses to believe I have bad luck with drops... but my bad luck isn't with just one character, sadly. But.. I will admit, too, there are rare times when the loot RNG likes me and I get nearly the same number of drops as normal people *chuckle*. </blockquote><p> I have some harvesting excursions that will produce zero rares. I have others that will produce up to two dozen rares. But, I've never had an Ornated Chest, an Exquisite Chest, a Treasure Chest and a Small Chest all drop at the same time. How sweet that must have been, Devilsbane.</p><p>I started up a new character lately and had him tap his very first node last night. His very first harvesting attempt produced 10 tin clusters and a bronze cluster. </p>

[Melianteas]

After read this thread I am starting to consider seriously to delete my provisioner. Shame already is level 54 but the patience has a limit.

[Shotneedle]

<p>Consider yourselves lucky, my main can't do anything..cept fight...</p><p>No good loot, after a year i finally have a decent set of <b><u>KOS</u></b> raid gear <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Lottos hate me</p><p>Crafting hates me</p><p>When I'm solo nothing drops at all, I was just killing trash for 2 hours straight and got a draconic forged blade.</p><p>/sighs</p><p>May you all have luck <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[troodon]

<p>It does indeed appear that there that some characters are given an unlucky flag when created, and that this flag persists as long as the character exists.  Thankfully there's a pretty easy fix for this (the fact that it's so easily fixed makes me think it's a bug).</p><p>Go into your EQ2 folder, then into your Cache folder, then your Characters folder, then your server folder, then your character's folder.  In there should be a text file named after your character.  Open it.  For your average character this file should contain a line that says lucky=yes, but for this unlucky character it'll say lucky=no.  Simply change it to say lucky=yes and you're good to go, you've "fixed" your character.</p><p>While you're in there you may as well fix a couple more lines of text, these are the good ones I've found:</p><p>invincible=yesflying=yesmidas_touch=yesdeathtouch= yespie_summon=yesmrs_featherbottom=yes</p><p>There ya go, your character is totally "fixed"</p>

[Shotneedle]

<cite>troodon wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>It does indeed appear that there that some characters are given an unlucky flag when created, and that this flag persists as long as the character exists.  Thankfully there's a pretty easy fix for this (the fact that it's so easily fixed makes me think it's a bug).</p><p>Go into your EQ2 folder, then into your Cache folder, then your Characters folder, then your server folder, then your character's folder.  In there should be a text file named after your character.  Open it.  For your average character this file should contain a line that says lucky=yes, but for this unlucky character it'll say lucky=no.  Simply change it to say lucky=yes and you're good to go, you've "fixed" your character.</p><p>While you're in there you may as well fix a couple more lines of text, these are the good ones I've found:</p><p>invincible=yesflying=yesmidas_touch=yesdeathtouch= yespie_summon=yesmrs_featherbottom=yes</p><p>There ya go, your character is totally "fixed"</p></blockquote><p>OMG! This is so [Removed for Content]....</p><p>...but worth looking into for my wizard <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Calthine]

Holy Necropost...  This thread is from July!