Nice creativity on the new loam look! NOT!

[Skylher]

<p>so now all loams look like transmuted powders of the same tier. spongy loams look like porous loams and illusionary powders. </p><p>why would they do this? You couldn't make them other colors </p><p>so be careful when people want an adornment or spell made,, they just might give you the common loam for them.</p>

[Valdaglerion]

<p>Domino has already acknowledged the change was not the most pristine fashion she would have liked it to be but was made to be an improvement over the previous design where all loams were white at every level. Give her a break, she is making positive changes where they can be made in consideration of time and resources at the moment.</p><p>Any step in the forward motion is still progress. She knows there is more to do. be patient.</p>

[Snowdonia]

No, they don't actually. My Soluble Loam, T6, looks like T2 powder (the red one anyroad, might be T3). I am personally disappointed in the color distributions. I would have preferred that each tier shared the same general color for Powder, loam, rare loam, and dust (and dust wasn't factored in AT all) with slight hue differentiations to tell them all apart. For example, a porous loam is orange, a rare spongy loam could be a burnt orange, Scintillating Dust could be a lighter shade of orange, and the T7 power for transmuting could be a pale orange. All a shade of orange, but all the same color type so can tell easily by sight what tier it is associated with. Aw well.

[Galldora]

As Skylher mentioned, Domino has said she intends to do some more work on the loam colors in the future.  In the meantime, it does seem like the current change has helped to solve at least one problem.  Before the change, nearly every day on my server I would see people who had apparently confused alkali loams with alkaline loams and listed their items WAY below market value.  Since the change, I have not seen this mistake once.

[Skylher]

<p>althought domino is trying,, is it really a "fix" if it just creates more problems. Why go through the motions if it really isnt fixing anything. Why waste the time, when you could spend an xtra week or so to do it right</p><p>how long did we wait for t6 rare furniture, only to have it look similar to other tiers. </p><p>and its not jsut crafting that does this it is rampant in the adventurer side. Like when lvl 60 and 70 became available, they just changed the names of the spells but forgot to increase their numbers. </p><p>its just laziness in my opinion. I just get tired of seeing changes that aren't really changes</p>

[Off]

As long as people pay attention there will not be any problems.  If there are problems (I have yet to encounter any), it's not like they're the end of the world and game-ending.  Be patient; changes are being made all the time, and Domino has already noted possible issues with certains things.  Don't go making mountains out of molehills.

[Looker1010]

I was/am very disappointed with the loam solution - coloring it. Now I have to remember which color is which tier. I was hoping for labeling like fuels. Oh well...

[Jrral]

It doesn't fix all the problems, but then before the change <b>all</b> the common loams, rare loams and dusts looked alike. Now at least I can tell dusts from loams and distinguish loams of different tiers. I still have to check to distinguish common from rare loams in the same tier, but it's still a vast improvement. It's not perfect, but I'll take 75% over zero any day.

[TheSpin]

<p>This might be negative in relation with transmuting, but I'd much rather have to mouse hover between 3 things than 7 tiers of white things.  I used to have loam in a container and by the time I got around to wanting to use it I had completely forgotten which tier it was from......The names of loams use words that mean nothing to most people.  I'm already starting to forget names completely and just go with colors.</p>

[TniEradani]

<div align="left">While I agree that the colored loam is some kind of step in the right direction, my first reaction on logging in and seeing those colors was:</div><div align="left"><span style="font-size: medium"><span style="color: #99ff00"><b>OMG People were complaining about putting loam </b></span></span><div align="left"><span style="font-size: medium"><span style="color: #99ff00"><b>in their food before and now they've </b></span></span><div align="left"><span style="font-size: medium"><span style="color: #99ff00"><b>g</b></span></span><span style="font-size: medium"><span style="color: #99ff00"><b>ot to put green loam in their food.</b></span></span><b></b></div>I swear I almost deleted a whole box of T2 loam because of the color. OK, so I've gotten used to it now, but I still think the color choices were ... not the best. rofl I'm still laughing thinking of my initial reaction, but yes it was a step in the right direction anyways.</div>edit: formatting</div>

[Sapphirius]

<cite>Skylher wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>althought domino is trying,, is it really a "fix" if it just creates more problems. Why go through the motions if it really isnt fixing anything. Why waste the time, when you could spend an xtra week or so to do it right</p><p>how long did we wait for t6 rare furniture, only to have it look similar to other tiers. </p><p>and its not jsut crafting that does this it is rampant in the adventurer side. Like when lvl 60 and 70 became available, they just changed the names of the spells but forgot to increase their numbers. </p><p>its just laziness in my opinion. I just get tired of seeing changes that aren't really changes</p></blockquote><p>Not sure what rare T6 furniture you're looking at, but to have attractive looking canopy beds that I can actualy sit on without having to climb on top of, the ornate looking counters, the table and floor lamps, and the votive candles... I'd say the T6 rare furniture looks sufficiently different enough from previous tiers. It's certainly enough to make me happy.</p><p>When I logged on and saw the different colors on my loams, my alchemist was in absolute heaven. I actually keep my dusts in a seperate box labeled "Dusts" for when I'm asked to make rare potions or poisons and my rare loams in a box titled "Rares," same with transmutable components. No more looking at 7 rows of solid white lumps in three seperate boxes, pulling out what I need, and then forgetting what was what when I reach the chemistry table.</p><p>Given all that Domino and her team has done so far, I would hardly call them lazy. Infact, I'm rather worried that, at the pace Domino is going, she'll burn herself out. I like her and how she communicates with the community, and the gods know I most certainly don't want her burning out, quitting, and then finding another Beghn in her place.</p><p>It may not be perfect, but it's a step in the right direction with the promise to work on it more. That's good enough for me. </p>

[Silvershadows]

I think it would be cool it the "rare" drops got a little kick... say some little shiney's on top of it in your inventory that way you could easily see those ones.  Happy smiley!!! WE HAVE COLORS NOW! 

[Jrral]

<cite>Silvershadows wrote:</cite><blockquote>I think it would be cool it the "rare" drops got a little kick... say some little shiney's on top of it in your inventory that way you could easily see those ones.  Happy smiley!!! WE HAVE COLORS NOW!  </blockquote>That'd definitely be nice. Base color for common loams, same color but with a sparkly for rare loams, a darker version of the color or a different sparkly for dusts. I'd like to see a similar scheme applied to metals and to those roots that share the same graphic. We don't need realistic icons, we do need to be able to distinguish carbonite from lead clusters.

[Skylher]

all they really have to do is change the icons. keep the colors of the tiers, ,but change what the item looks llike.

[KerowynnKaotic]

<p>Frak it!  I hate these forums!  </p><p>'*&^^&^*&*&*&*^*&^&</p>

[MadTexan3]

<p>As several others have pointed out, the changes we got were the best that could be done with the available time. Further, if you're too blind to see that the changes we got were a vast improvement over what we had before then you're simply fishing for something to complain about and nothing I could say would convince you otherwise.</p><p>So, just so Domino doesn't get disheartened over this whine thread I'm just going to say that I'm pretty certain that the <b>majority</b> of us were [Removed for Content] happy to get the changes in coloring.</p>

[dartie]

Aelestar@Lucan DLere wrote: <blockquote><p>As several others have pointed out, the changes we got were the best that could be done with the available time. Further, if you're too blind to see that the changes we got were a vast improvement over what we had before then you're simply fishing for something to complain about and nothing I could say would convince you otherwise.</p><p>So, just so Domino doesn't get disheartened over this whine thread I'm just going to say that I'm pretty certain that the <b>majority</b> of us were [I cannot control my vocabulary] happy to get the changes in coloring.</p></blockquote><p> Amen.</p><p>I used to be able to confuse 14 loams with each other.  The new color overlaps don't even approach that number.  There is room for improvement, but I'm grateful for the progress that Domino was able to make so quickly.</p>

[Snowdonia]

If ANY dev gets disheartened by a single whine about a single change then they are in the wrong business and need to switch jobs. MMO players seem by nature disgruntled to the -nth degree. No matter what changes are made to their game there is ALWAYS someone who doesn't like it and will make their opinion heard with or without tact. Nature of the beast that is MMORPGs and their players. One of the things that makes a good dev good is their necessity to have a thick skin. Devs HAVE to be able to take criticism in any form and be objectionable or let it slide off their back. I wouldn't even BEGIN to insult one by insinuating that a single whinge on a change they've made has affected them emotionally. I'd personally like to think Domino is made of stronger stuff than that.

[MadTexan3]

Snowdonia@Runnyeye wrote: <blockquote>If ANY dev gets disheartened by a single whine about a single change then they are in the wrong business and need to switch jobs. </blockquote><p>True as that may be, the complaints in this thread are fundamentally ridiculous (not to mention the fact that the title of the thread alone is petty) and anyone who simply stops and uses common sense to look at the before and after will see that we are way better off with the new coloring than we were with the old 1-color system for loams.</p>

[Rijacki]

<cite>KerowynnKaotic wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Frak it!  I hate these forums!  </p><p>'*&^^&^*&*&*&*^*&^&</p></blockquote> *huggles*