View Full Version : Would love to own a Nightmare
Pumancat
07-11-2007, 01:51 PM
<p>But seems Sony likes to screw caster classes, even to the point of making over priced, under helpful mounts.</p><p>Why does a GL50 mount cost 5 - 7 plat more, and almost as much status, with less speed, and less benefit?</p><p>200 mit vs magic is NOT that big a help when you consider the melee buffs of a War Barded horse.</p><p>Now with the Wargs being the same speed, but for 12 plat less, without any buffs. So why the big difference in prices between the GL60 melee horses, and the GL50 caster horses?</p><p>Give us a break Sony, instead of giving us the shaft all the time.</p><p>Nyarlath - 70 wizard</p><p>Venekor server</p>
Jardon
07-11-2007, 02:30 PM
<p>You do realize the is +200 to all resists (Heat, Cold, Divine, Mental, Magic, Poision, Diesase), right?</p>
Korpo
07-11-2007, 04:22 PM
So you'd love to own a nightmare, if it was cheaper, gave you more benefits, and was faster. Sounds like a winner of an idea there.
Jardon@Antonia Bayle wrote: <blockquote><p>You do realize the is +200 to all resists (Heat, Cold, Divine, Mental, Magic, Poision, Diesase), right?</p></blockquote>Not to defend the OP because I think they should just make mounts in general cost more, but you do realize +200 to all resists is worthless right? Not only does 200 resists make practically no difference in any fight whatsoever, once you die in most raid zones you're unable to recast the mount for the buff again. And for the raid zones where you can use a mount, the fact that you move backwards at a snails pace makes it more of a hassle to use than it actually helps. (Try tanking Wuoshi with your mount, that'd be fun!) And if you're planning on using it for outdoor zones, I've never seen a solo mob where 200 resists made a difference ever. They need to: 1. Give Qeynosians a cool looking mount like Freeportians have. The Mistrunner just looks um... horrible. 2. Nerf Wargs and GL60 mounts. I never understood why the GL60 ones were cheaper than 40 ones anyway. I say lower Warg run speed and make GL60 mounts ~25p. 3. Give actual useful effects on mounts and allow at least the buff, without the run speed, to be cast indoors.
Pumancat
07-11-2007, 09:33 PM
Jardon@Antonia Bayle wrote: <blockquote><p>You do realize the is +200 to all resists (Heat, Cold, Divine, Mental, Magic, Poision, Diesase), right?</p></blockquote><p> No, it says " increases Mitigation of caster vs all magical damage by 200"</p><p>I do not see anything pertaining to heat, cold (elemental), divine, mental, disease, or poisons.</p><p>Not being a [Removed for Content] , but gotta read more carefully when dealing with this crap.</p><p>Nyarlath</p>
<cite>Pumancat wrote:</cite><blockquote>Jardon@Antonia Bayle wrote: <blockquote><p>You do realize the is +200 to all resists (Heat, Cold, Divine, Mental, Magic, Poision, Diesase), right?</p></blockquote><p> No, it says " increases Mitigation of caster vs all magical damage by 200"</p><p>I do not see anything pertaining to heat, cold (elemental), divine, mental, disease, or poisons.</p><p>Not being a [I cannot control my vocabulary] , but gotta read more carefully when dealing with this crap.</p><p>Nyarlath</p></blockquote>Actually, all magical damage means... every damage type that isn't physical. If it was only magic resist it would say +200 to magic resist, not magical damage. I still have my Mistrunner actually, it most certainly gives 200 to every resist. Of course it's still totally worthless either way.
Korpo
07-12-2007, 12:58 AM
<cite>Pumancat wrote:</cite><blockquote>Jardon@Antonia Bayle wrote: <blockquote><p>You do realize the is +200 to all resists (Heat, Cold, Divine, Mental, Magic, Poision, Diesase), right?</p></blockquote><p> No, it says " increases Mitigation of caster vs all magical damage by 200"</p><p>I do not see anything pertaining to heat, cold (elemental), divine, mental, disease, or poisons.</p><p>Not being a [I cannot control my vocabulary] , but gotta read more carefully when dealing with this crap.</p><p>Nyarlath</p></blockquote><p>Not being an assassin, but learn what the flip you are talking about before shooting off your mouth; it just makes you look stupid to argue with people that actually know what they're talking about when they're trying to give you advice.</p><p><img src="http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y233/korpo53/EQ%20Screenshots/nightmare.jpg" border="0"> </p>
TheStateFish
07-12-2007, 06:33 AM
<p>aITEM 956196451 -712178943: Dhume/a</p><p>Potentially much cheaper than a nightmare, free in fact. And looks cooler too.</p>
Solaran_X
07-12-2007, 11:00 AM
<cite>Pumancat wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>But seems Sony likes to screw caster classes, even to the point of making over priced, under helpful mounts.</p><p>Why does a GL50 mount cost 5 - 7 plat more, and almost as much status, with less speed, and less benefit?</p><p>200 mit vs magic is NOT that big a help when you consider the melee buffs of a War Barded horse.</p><p><b>Now with the Wargs being the same speed, but for 12 plat less, without any buffs.</b> So why the big difference in prices between the GL60 melee horses, and the GL50 caster horses?</p><p>Give us a break Sony, instead of giving us the shaft all the time.</p><p>Nyarlath - 70 wizard</p><p>Venekor server</p></blockquote>Wargs are 45%. Nightmares and Mist Runners are 48%. Close...but not the same speed.
Snowdonia
07-12-2007, 11:45 AM
Aren't Nightmares GL40 and not GL50? Last I looked at the blue flame one in Neriak I'm sure it said 40.
Zeuhl
07-14-2007, 03:10 PM
Yes they are GL40. Not 50
sprogn
07-18-2007, 11:38 AM
Prof@Blackburrow wrote: <blockquote><p>aITEM 956196451 -712178943: Dhume/a</p><p>Potentially much cheaper than a nightmare, free in fact. And looks cooler too.</p></blockquote> That is freakin uber. Is that a NT Raid zone drop?
Finora
07-18-2007, 01:17 PM
<p>I think wargs should never have been more than 40%, but they are 45 oh well.</p><p>I think the stupid carpet should have stayed 25(or 35%) that it was originally but oh well. =p</p><p>Nightmares/Mistrunners are expensive. But they are pretty much in line with mount price scaling.</p><p>The war-barded horses, should cost either more cash or more status, but once again oh well. They do look pretty cool.</p><p>And just FYI, who said those were 'melee horses' and 'caster horses'. I think most people get the horses for the speed and the looks more than the piddly benefits they give (other than on PVP servers where that +200 resist might be huge). </p><p>Resists are equally useful (useless) to both melee and casters. The only way casters have been shafted by SOE with mounts is that the + skill do not add +ministration/disruption/etc as well as + slash/pierce/blunt.</p>
Tanan
07-18-2007, 06:28 PM
<p>The quested carpet was always 40 percent. And the status carpet was always 48 percent. Then when the war barded 50 percent horse came out, I got that. But now I have a Fitzpitzles Hover Platform which is 48 percent speed and +6 to focus and defense. IMO the best mount i have been able to get thus far.</p>
Ember
07-21-2007, 09:23 AM
Tanan@Venekor wrote: <blockquote><p>The quested carpet was always 40 percent. And the status carpet was always 48 percent. Then when the war barded 50 percent horse came out, I got that. But now I have a Fitzpitzles Hover Platform which is 48 percent speed and +6 to focus and defense. IMO the best mount i have been able to get thus far.</p></blockquote>They only increased the quested carpet to 40 percent when they allowed all players to use the 'return' carpets in dof. When it first came out, the benefit of the carpet quest was to use the little carpets throughout the expansion.
Finora
07-21-2007, 12:06 PM
When DOF first came out the % on the carpet was around the % of my sow + j-boots. I think it was changed very quickly (or maybe it was the lower percentage in beta and I was confused on the timing) but at one point it was lower than it is currently.
Themaginator
07-21-2007, 01:15 PM
<cite>Pumancat wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>But seems Sony likes to screw caster classes, even to the point of making over priced, under helpful mounts.</p><p>Why does a GL50 mount cost 5 - 7 plat more, and almost as much status, with less speed, and less benefit?</p><p>200 mit vs magic is NOT that big a help when you consider the melee buffs of a War Barded horse.</p><p>Now with the Wargs being the same speed, but for 12 plat less, without any buffs. So why the big difference in prices between the GL60 melee horses, and the GL50 caster horses?</p><p>Give us a break Sony, instead of giving us the shaft all the time.</p><p>Nyarlath - 70 wizard</p><p>Venekor server</p></blockquote> errr emm...waaa? thats my non-constructive post for the day
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