sarnak screenie

[Seraki]

<p>I just got my news letter from game spot.  There was what looks like a sarnak screenie <img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p><img src="http://i.i.com.com/cnet.g2/images/2007/190/939455_20070710_screen002.jpg" border="0"></p>

[Nayurayne]

<p>Yeah I know, I saw that earlier. I think it's absolutly wonderful and reaffirms my want to play a sarnak as my main charactor. Heh to be honest I think it's cute <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> The tail for some reason is not visable and that is irritating but if you look at the shadows you can see it.</p>

[Galithdor]

Looks like a leaked screenshot lol and cool they get their own armor graphics...that armor wouldnt look right on any other race so it has to be lol. I dont know though it might be like that leaked video with the alpha fae <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Seraki]

Im a little worried about the feet .. they are kind of ... wide.   Wont be able to judge really though with out seeing them in game moving around.

[Galithdor]

Yeah they are huge...but that isnt the complete modle i bet <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> and well dragons have big feet and they get away with it (i had to say that lol)

[Cusashorn]

old.

[songsta]

So are they gonna be evil...or exile...or will soe make em both evil and good?

[Iad]

<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote>old.</blockquote> Oh no, it's a day old!

[Josgar]

<p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=370749" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=370749</a></p><p><a href="http://www.soepress.com/pics.asp?i=304" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.soepress.com/pics.asp?i=304</a></p><p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=370940" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=370940</a></p><p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=370948" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=370948</a></p><p>yeah...</p><p>anyways thats an npc model not a pc model.</p>

[Nayurayne]

Songsta, the Sarnak are to be a neutral race and they will start in a neutral city.

[64626990913]

And for the PvP servers, will this city be Evil or Good?

[Ama]

<cite>Seraki wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I just got my news letter from game spot.  There was what looks like a sarnak screenie <img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p><img src="http://i.i.com.com/cnet.g2/images/2007/190/939455_20070710_screen002.jpg" border="0"></p></blockquote>Doesn't look to bad but the "mouth" area almost looks like a hard beak from a bird instead of a dragon imho.  Other than that they look pretty freakin sweet so far. 

[Nayurayne]

I like the legs. It always seemed that in Everquest it looked like every race was cut out of a mold and in some cases given a different head. To bad that's an NPC. I really hope that the play sarnak look similar to that and arn't just more human bodies with different heads using the excuse that they have been geneticaly/magically engeneered to give the body switch merit.

[Willias]

This is the npc sarnak by the way. The player race will apparently look completely different, and be able to wear the armor that every other race can wear.

[Nayurayne]

Yes, that is what I'm worried about. I'm worried that they're gonna take that beautiful sarnak up there and give it the same body as everyone else so that it WILL fit all the armour that's around. It would fit with what lore they had put out so far too since the breed of sarnak we'll be playing is supposed to be different from the breed the NPC's are.

[Willias]

Isn't the new skeleton work supposed to be done sometime around or before RoK comes out? I'd say that iksar and sarnak are going to be given a similar skeletal structure. Edit:  Er, which means that they'll probably look somewhat similar appearance-wise.  I imagine that sarnaks will be much skinnier and taller however, but they'll probably stand more erect than their non-playable cousins.

[Nayurayne]

Didn't Iksar always have the legs that bend like humans legs? That's what I was most worried about loosing to be honest. I never much liked the Iksar body shape...not in EQ2 and not from the pictures I saw from EQ1. I like the sarnak as it is in a picture because it looks different from the other races we have now. It actually looks like a beast race and not just a human skeleton that has been covered in scales and given a weird head. Oh yeah..and a tail...

[Seraki]

Well i hope they narrow the toe area of the feet some ... reminds me a little too much of WoW type feet, wich have a tendancy to be huge on many creatures.

[Snowdonia]

<cite>Amana wrote:</cite><blockquote>Doesn't look to bad but the "mouth" area almost looks like a hard beak from a bird instead of a dragon imho.  Other than that they look pretty freakin sweet so far.  </blockquote>They've always looked like that. <a href="http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=7936" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Even in EQ1</a>. Granted, there the beak is at the end of a long bridge plate, but in my opinion, that's always looked wrong to me. A couple of examples of beaked "dragons" would be the Stegosaurus and the Triceratops. Their mouth openings were only as long as their beaks, it didn't extend back along the bridge plate like the EQ1 Sarnak's do. So, as far as I'm concerned they are just correcting a genetic impossibility. It definitely looks much better than the EQ1 Sarnies that's for sure. Soo cannot wait to make and play one!

[Josgar]

<p>that sarnak is an npc</p><p>Im guessing that as player models we will get stuck with a sarnak head stuck on a human model.</p>

[Nayurayne]

Yup Josgar that's what I am afraid of. As much as I love this game quest wise I always thought the only races that actually LOOKED different were the NPC races. All the player races all pretty mch look the same bodywise. Although I could be overreacting. We havn't even seen the player models yet...all I know is that that NPC Sarnak is beatiful and I would love to have a race like that to play. I hope that the changes between NPC and player leave the unique body structure intact.

[Enever]

Nayukhuut wrote: <blockquote>Yup Josgar that's what I am afraid of. As much as I love this game quest wise I always thought the only races that actually LOOKED different were the NPC races. All the player races all pretty mch look the same bodywise. Although I could be overreacting. We havn't even seen the player models yet...all I know is that that NPC Sarnak is beatiful and I would love to have a race like that to play. I hope that the changes between NPC and player leave the unique body structure intact. </blockquote> I really hope they keep that unique body shape as well. So far, the ratonga are the only ones who have a unique body shape by the looks. The game does need variety like that, I'm tired of see human-molded models for every race, heh. Keep the digigrade style, make the feet smaller and give them a tail.

[Nayurayne]

I think Frogloks do too but that's about it. Everyone else is the same body basically give or take size. I cam here from Horizons and as mch as the game had it's faults it did also have unique looking races. Now, EQ2 is wonderful on the quest end it just needs more races that don't look stamped right out of a human mold. But, as I said I may just be overreacting. I'll have to wait until they release screenshots or we hear a devs words word on the subject until we know for sure.

[Wildmage]

<cite>Nayukhuut wrote:</cite><blockquote>I think Frogloks do too but that's about it. Everyone else is the same body basically give or take size. I cam here from Horizons and as mch as the game had it's faults it did also have unique looking races. Now, EQ2 is wonderful on the quest end it just needs more races that don't look stamped right out of a human mold. But, as I said I may just be overreacting. I'll have to wait until they release screenshots or we hear a devs words word on the subject until we know for sure.</blockquote>I dunno I'd say Trolls, and Ratonga also have some modifications to the body shape(Trolls in the torso have that odd sunken chest potbelly thing going on.) If they just gave us the option to toggle gloves Iksar and Trolls could show of those neat clawed fingers they have, plus you could see plate bracers for once....ahh well. I'll go ahead and make the prediction that Sarnak will have variable horn/crest configurations like the Iksar have and/or skin pattern options like Frogloks, and will likely be Medium more likely Large in size. memory serves me of Sarnak being as tall as my Troll Sk in EQ1 preluclin models.

[Enever]

I'm worried there will be a mess up... heh I don't want a Human model for these guys. As I said in my previous post. Make some adjustments, just not a plain old Human form with a sarnak head.

[Nayurayne]

It's not the horn/crest modifications of the size of the model that concerns me. It's the body's actual shape. I like the shape of the sarnak in the picture shown. The long legs/arms and the beast like feet/legs. What I don't want is another lizardman that looks like a human body with an interesting head and a tail slapped onto the back.....even if it is taller or shorter or whatever.  Anyway, none of us know exactly what SOE is going to do so fretting won't do any good. Just voicing my concerns because I fell in love with the Sarnak concept art and the NPC model shown and I don't want to play a sarnak that has the body that most of the other races has and have to see the nice cool one that I love and can't play.

[Snowdonia]

If they could make todays armors fit on that funky Froglok model, I don't see any problems making it fit a sarnak model. The legs are basically shaped like a Froglok's as well, only instead of being squat down they are a bit more stretched out. The only problems I could foresee model wise are those hips. They've made their hips very bony so I can see some modeling issues with todays armors there.

[troodon]

I cannot wait to play a Sarnak. 

[Xakkoriz]

I think they should leave the Iksar the way they are, skeleton change shouldn't lead to completely different models or I'll be [Removed for Content] lol.

[Nayurayne]

I don't think they would change the iksar much. I mean, havn't they always sorta had that body type? Even in EQ1.. Why would they change it now? Naw I think the skeletal revamp is more about armours (at least from what I heard) then visual looks.

[Emerok]

I can't believe people want to play that bird/lizard thingie. Plus its hunched over.. that doesn't work for me lol.

[quamdar]

the feet look really big, doesn't look too bad though.

[Dragowulf]

lol the feet r suppose to be big. Didnt you see that cool robe the sarnak had?!

[Galithdor]

<cite>Emerok wrote:</cite><blockquote>I can't believe people want to play that bird/lizard thingie. Plus its hunched over.. that doesn't work for me lol.</blockquote> Im guessing you didnt play EQ1...lol that is what sarnak are supposed to look like (and its Dragon/Iksar hybrid not iksar/bird <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />)

[Darq]

<cite>64626990913 wrote:</cite><blockquote>And for the PvP servers, will this city be Evil or Good? </blockquote> i hope evil, good got too much love in eof, it's time for evil now (however ridiculous it may sound)

[Xakkoriz]

They better add the Sarnak Tower Shield as an HQ... I think that was the name of it atleast.

[Willias]

I want to see the Greenmist get added as a Signature or Heritage quest. Even though it used to be an iksar SK only sword.

[Levatino]

so they are going to be a neutral race does that mean they will be able to enter freeport/neriak and or qeynos/kelethin or does it mean they aren't able to enter any of those cities btw they look really cool, love to play one

[Galithdor]

Yeah now that the video was shown that actually shopwed their faces...i like them even more! they look more draconic then chicken now <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[transcendant]

<p>The large feet wouldn't look so odd if they narrowed the ankle and splayed the toes out, real animals with long scaly toes do not hold them all parallel like that.</p><p>Examples:</p><p> <img src="http://www.faludi.com/photos/australia_trip_5-2006/australia_trip_5-2006-Thumbnails/187.jpg" border="0"><img src="http://www.deserttortoise.org/image/2004cat5-2.jpg" border="0"></p><p>That's an emu and a collared lizard. In fact I couldn't find a single example of something with long scaly toes that held them all straight foreward.</p>

[hobi]

it it mu imagination or are they using the froglok skeleton as the base for the sarnac? just judging the way the armsand legs are positioned

[Dragowulf]

Ryos@Lucan DLere wrote: <blockquote>it it mu imagination or are they using the froglok skeleton as the base for the sarnac? just judging the way the armsand legs are positioned</blockquote> remember that they are revamping the skeleton system, chances are they will be somewhat different than what we see pre skeletal revamp.

[Ancalima]

One of the E3 videos had a good look at the Sarnak that was playable for the demo. <img src="http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d61/Joshuuua/Sarnak.jpg" border="0"> To me this one looks better than the NPC one from the original post. Darker and more creep-ish <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Dragowulf]

Ancalima@Antonia Bayle wrote: <blockquote>One of the E3 videos had a good look at the Sarnak that was playable for the demo. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </blockquote>it doesn look like a bird at all, it looks more like a humanoid dragon creature. i don't see much of a beak either

[Tremelle]

I could really see one as a monk or bruiser, that would rock.

[Nayurayne]

I think it's cute. Now, I wonder if that is the male or the female model...looks male but then again how do you tell?

[Wildmage]

females will probably be bigger, bad tempered and have longer spikes/horns

[Nayurayne]

<p>Us females bad tempered? Naw that can't be true. Well....maybe a little... Okay but only if you do something stupid. You know like breathe or talk....or look in my direction.</p><p> If we take the Iksar as a comparison the females might actually be smaller although you might have a point on the horns. As for the horns, who knows...I wouldn't mind having crests and frill type things to choose on tope of horns but that's just wishful thinking.</p>

[Wildmage]

Hehe sorry I have been reading the last Harry Potter Novel so that was a reference to a comment on dragons in said novel.

[Nayurayne]

<p>Ahh haven't read that yet, although thanks to family I do know what happens... Eh I'll get to it eventually.</p><p>The bigger female then male happens in the a few natural earth species too so honestly it wasn't a bad idea.</p>

[Wildmage]

<cite>Nayukhuut wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Ahh haven't read that yet, although thanks to family I do know what happens... Eh I'll get to it eventually.</p><p>The bigger female then male happens in the a few natural earth species too so honestly it wasn't a bad idea.</p></blockquote>Its more common than you think it makes sense the females have to defend their young or nest, being larger than the males makes it easier to  mate and give birth as well.

[Nayurayne]

Actually what I ment to say is that in nature there are a lot of females that are bigger then males....that sentance up there is just a testimate of what happens with not enough sleep. -_-

[Wildmage]

I would tailor you up a pillow but I can only make them out of chainmail, and thats not comfy.

[Nayurayne]

Hmm chainmail pillow...that COULD work. This is of course providing that I wrap it in lairs of silk and feathers naturally.

[Dragowulf]

<cite>Nayukhuut wrote:</cite><blockquote>Actually what I ment to say is that in nature there are a lot of females that are bigger then males....that sentance up there is just a testimate of what happens with not enough sleep. -_-</blockquote> ya like black widows for example. the girls eat the males, like it doesn't happen in the real world an yways <img src="/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> ouch.

[Wildmage]

<cite>Nayukhuut wrote:</cite><blockquote>Hmm chainmail pillow...that COULD work. This is of course providing that I wrap it in lairs of silk and feathers naturally.</blockquote>I can make it in normal, melodic or brigadine style.

[Nayurayne]

<p>Oh! Choices! They all look so pretty. Why Wildmage you make me the happiest sarnak in all of kunark you do.</p><p>On a more serious note. I thought frogloks swam like everyone else....although to be honest I havn't seen much of froglok swimming.</p>

[Wildmage]

<cite>Nayukhuut wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Oh! Choices! They all look so pretty. Why Wildmage you make me the happiest sarnak in all of kunark you do.</p><p>On a more serious note. I thought frogloks swam like everyone else....although to be honest I havn't seen much of froglok swimming.</p></blockquote>they pretty much froggy kick just like someone at the pool or real life frogs(not toads)