Soulfire Longsword

[Arioc]

The Longsword has the model of a 1h sword, the name of a 1h sword, uses the 1h sword attack animations. Yet is a 2h sword. I have to admit I feel kinda foolish doing all the 1h attack anims with a 2h sword. Can we make it larger, fit on our back and use 2h anims?

[Troubor]

<cite>Arioc wrote:</cite><blockquote>The Longsword has the model of a 1h sword, the name of a 1h sword, uses the 1h sword attack animations. Yet is a 2h sword. I have to admit I feel kinda foolish doing all the 1h attack anims with a 2h sword. Can we make it larger, fit on our back and use 2h anims?</blockquote><p> Not saying they shouldn't make it more like a 2 hander if it hits/functions as one, I agree it probably should be.  But I can think of one or two others that had or maybe still have a 1 h animation.  I remember some looted legendary 2h katana from KoS, want to say the Kettleleader's Katana, used to have a 1h animation and size to it, but got made into a 2h size and animation.  Lower tier looted legendary, want to say something from Nek Castle (original one) with a flamberge graphic had, maybe still has a 1h animation and size, but is a 2 hander.  (Edit, they did change it, one I'm thinking of is now a 2 handed Bast*rd sword.  There's a few others like that, not many, most I can recall are swords.</p><p>Anyway, the semi-unrelated, the Soulfire Gladius is growing on me..but the look is..erm..unique.  Finally dawned on me they used a generic shortsword template, then started carving hunks out of it to get to that shape, if I were to guess what they did.  I wish the Gladius looked like the longsword, and the 2 hander was something like the "Soulfire Greatsword" or "Soulfire Bast*rd Sword" or some such.  (not claymore, not because I hate them but hey, we have the Qeynos Claymore, not every important quested weapon in this game should be a claymore...I think.  <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  ).  Also think the particle effect once it's been used a bit on the gladius MIGHT (not honestly sure) be bugged, but I have another thread asking that, this paragraph is just ending with a shameless plug of said thread.  <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Anyway, hope you like your longsword.  And yes, since it is the 2 hander, hope they give it a 2h animation and/or make it a bit larger.</p><p>Addendum:  Oh, to the moderators, I'm doing a work around for the word "Bast*rd" since it's used in the context of a sword type, not the swear word.  My only intent with that.</p>

[Lotus]

2 Handers are on the way.

[Troubor]

<cite>Lotus wrote:</cite><blockquote>2 Handers are on the way. </blockquote>Neat.  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Just to ask then, will the Gladius be made a bit larger, or maybe even get the old Soulfire Longsword graphic?  <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Schmalex23]

<cite>Troubor wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Lotus wrote:</cite><blockquote>2 Handers are on the way. </blockquote>Neat.  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Just to ask then, will the Gladius be made a bit larger, or maybe even get the old Soulfire Longsword graphic?  <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </blockquote> QFE.  The gladius looks so whimpy.  I know gladius are ment to be a smaller sword... but it looks like im using a butter knife on an ogre.

[Troubor]

Skel@Butcherblock wrote: <blockquote><cite>Troubor wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Lotus wrote:</cite><blockquote>2 Handers are on the way. </blockquote>Neat.  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Just to ask then, will the Gladius be made a bit larger, or maybe even get the old Soulfire Longsword graphic?  <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </blockquote> QFE.  The gladius looks so whimpy.  I know gladius are ment to be a smaller sword... but it looks like im using a butter knife on an ogre.</blockquote>Kind of has a weird look to it too, IMO...the look might work if it was larger, but right now...well, comments in our raid group range from "BBQ FORK" to "kind of a surreal wrench".  Larger, even with the same graphic I think it would work.

[Xentin]

the graphics of the gladius drove me to taking the longsword, even if the longsword has the 1handed animation/gfx. I cant stand the tiny little butterknife with no hilt <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Ghalslayt]

Gladius+Buckler=Fighting with dinnerware

[Siogai]

But... A gladius *is* a short, wide-bladed and nearly-hiltless sword.  The whole thing isn't more than seventy centimetres long or so.  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gladius" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gladius</a> EDIT: Ok, up to eighty cm... still, it's *not* a big sword at all.  Maybe if it was a spatha, it would almost look longswordish (even though not even a metre long)... I dunno, I see the Gladius as designed more for short people, like small Teir and Ayr, rather than hulking brutes like Ogres.

[PaganSaint]

Skel@Butcherblock wrote: <blockquote><cite>Troubor wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Lotus wrote:</cite><blockquote>2 Handers are on the way. </blockquote>Neat.  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Just to ask then, will the Gladius be made a bit larger, or maybe even get the old Soulfire Longsword graphic?  <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </blockquote> QFE.  The gladius looks so whimpy.  I know gladius are ment to be a smaller sword... but it looks like im using a butter knife on an ogre.</blockquote>Suck it up sissy. Its a gladius.

[MadLordOfMilk]

Well, technically, if we were to go for total realism, we'd be stabbing with swords instead of slashing because to get through anything tough like iron you basically had to stab the guy with your sword. So, y'know, accuracy isn't all that big of a deal.

[PaganSaint]

Not really, plenty of swords were made with sufficient hardness and cutting edge to rend plate and some forms of more supple metal armor.

[Troubor]

<cite>Siogai wrote:</cite><blockquote>But... A gladius *is* a short, wide-bladed and nearly-hiltless sword.  The whole thing isn't more than seventy centimetres long or so.  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gladius" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gladius</a> EDIT: Ok, up to eighty cm... still, it's *not* a big sword at all.  Maybe if it was a spatha, it would almost look longswordish (even though not even a metre long)... I dunno, I see the Gladius as designed more for short people, like small Teir and Ayr, rather than hulking brutes like Ogres. </blockquote><p> Oh, I know the Gladius should be, based on just it's name a short, stubby sword.  But, that doesn't mean I want a short stubby sword.  My main is a Koada'dal, not an ogre, and it still looks a bit too short to be honest.</p><p>Since they are editing in a two hander, with (I presume) a new graphic and maybe name, I'm hoping the one hander is redone into the longsword graphic.  To be honest, that's what I was expecting as the one hander.</p><p>The current gladius model is more or less a standard in game short sword with notches cut out of it, ignoring the extra graphics and particle effects on it.  Short sword as an aside is usually a DW weapon in this game.  (Although I'll admit not always).  Not saying they should make the DW the gladius, I like the look of the rapier.  But the size of the gladius, based just on other weapons in game is more of a DW sized weapon.  (And note I said in game.  :p  )</p><p>(Of course, I also know that GU37 changes how the do DW, but I digress..)</p><p>Anyway, hoping they give the one hander the current longsword graphic if they are giving the current two hander a truly new graphic, and not just taking the easy way out of making it a bigger blade, same graphic.</p>

[smut]

The 2hander should keep its graphic! Its the same sword Mayong uses and he uses a 2hander! The Longsword is already a big blade, it just uses the 1hand animation and sits on your side instead of on your back. They will probably just switch the animations up and keep the graphics the same. The 2hander looks badass, keep it that way!

[Troubor]

<cite>smut wrote:</cite><blockquote>The 2hander should keep its graphic! Its the same sword Mayong uses and he uses a 2hander! The Longsword is already a big blade, it just uses the 1hand animation and sits on your side instead of on your back. They will probably just switch the animations up and keep the graphics the same. The 2hander looks badass, keep it that way! </blockquote><p> Well, as long as they make the gladius at least a bit larger despite it being a gladius, or make it so it's a one handed sized longsword, I'm happy.  :p</p><p>As an aside, they could do a claymore or greatsword graphic without changing the look signifigantly, it's only the B*stard sword (again, just doing this since it's a sword type) that looks signifigantly different in most models.</p><p>Anyway, hoping they also look the gladius graphic too.</p>

[Xakkoriz]

I was hoping the gladius would look like the sword Lucan has in all the artwork, except with the flame graphic on it. Though the sword he has kind of looks like a scimitar.

[Dynaen]

<p>Guess I'm a bit late in this, but the sword graphics on the last few epic questlines have been...weak to say the least.  No offense to the developers, but for example, the Qeynos Kilij is supposed to be a piercing weapon (kilij description is a long blade with a gentle curve).  Instead it just used the same graphics as the Qeynos Sabre and looked ridiculous for a piercing weapon.</p><p>The Soulfire Saber looks weak period.  It doesn't even look special, its just a long blade.  That doesn't look like a piercing weapon either, it looks a generic longsword with no graphics with the red glow added.  On the other hand the Hammer and the Kama look amazing.  The old peacock Darkfury Sabre looked awesome, but these recent swords just seem to have about zero creativity put into them.  Not trying to be offensive either.</p>