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Looth
07-09-2007, 03:00 PM
<p><span style="font-size: xx-large"><span style="color: #0033ff"><b>PLEASE</b></span></span></p><p><b><span style="font-size: xx-large"><span style="color: #0033ff">Thank you.</span></span></b></p><p><img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Winter
07-09-2007, 03:38 PM
<span style="font-size: small; color: #ff99ff; font-family: comic sans ms,sand">I have a feeling they'll be seen either at Fan Faire or during a press release further down the line. I must say - pretty strange way to start a thread there. lol <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></span>

Looth
07-09-2007, 04:47 PM
<p>Was kinda hoping if enough people replied, we would at least get one screen shot to look at <img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Nayurayne
07-09-2007, 06:42 PM
It would be nice I will agree. I plan on making a sarnak as my main you see and I have been waiting for more info every day since the announcment was made that ROK was coming out. Heh, I check the forums and the site a lot to look for new discussions and other info. Unfortunatly the Fae, Winter, is almost certainly correct. We'll prolly get more info at fan faire. Or if we're really lucky maybe at the block party thing but I'm still guessing fan faire.

Enever
07-09-2007, 06:44 PM
It can also be possible that it'll be revealed this week. E3 starts tomorrow, and even though it's been seriously downsized, it still has updates for games. edit-spelling

Swifthand
07-10-2007, 02:33 AM
<p>I wish to God Kunark was included back when EQ2 was first released. I remember playing EQ 1 and how we all begged to have the Sarnak be the next playable race before the Froglok's were selected as the next playable race. Now with this expansion they are playable. It's a shame this is coming out in november. I'm already looking forward to AoC and possibly GnH. </p><p> I quit EQ2 3 months after release cuz I couldn't deal with no diversity with classes, how all the armor and weaps looked exactly the same, and the whole combat system was trash. I hated sitting with a group and it taking about 2 minutes to kill a frikin bumblebee. 6 people beating the hell out of a mob for 2 whole minutes. I was a brigand and my great massive damaging attacks were barely doing anything to the mobs. How boring and lame. </p><p>I hear EQ2 changed so much in the last year and a half and ppl say it's actually alot better now than it was in 04-05 when I played. Now I see the greatest expansion that ever came out in EQ1 is finally being brought to EQ2. I loved Kunark more than any other continent. Those Glory days in LOIO, Seb, Skyfire Mountains,Chardok,Karnor's Castle, etc etc. Man I loved Kunark! Killing Trakanon and Venril Sathir for the first time felt so exhilerating, I'll never forget it. Ahhhh the memories. But its a shame this had to come out so late <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Who knows, maybe AoC and GnH will both suck and I could still possibly find my way back to EQ2...</p>

Looth
07-10-2007, 11:03 AM
<p>EQ2 has changed drastically from what it was at launch.  I originally left EQ2 for many of the same reasons as yourself after playing it in Beta and up till the first expansion release.  I hated the fact that mob encounters were locked so nobody around you could help if you got in trouble, you couldn't get a rez from someone not in your group, and buffs were limited to group members.  All of those factors are restraints on the believability of a game world reality.  It makes the experience feel more like a game and less like an alternate reality.</p><p>Some of those things have changed now, and the game is a lot more fun to play then it was before.  There are still some things that need to be changed before EQ2 will truely be the best MMORPG on the market.</p><p>That being said, I am highly looking forward to the release of Rise of Kunark.</p><p></p><p>Swifthand wrote: </p><blockquote><p>I wish to God Kunark was included back when EQ2 was first released. I remember playing EQ 1 and how we all begged to have the Sarnak be the next playable race before the Froglok's were selected as the next playable race. Now with this expansion they are playable. It's a shame this is coming out in november. I'm already looking forward to AoC and possibly GnH. </p><p> I quit EQ2 3 months after release cuz I couldn't deal with no diversity with classes, how all the armor and weaps looked exactly the same, and the whole combat system was trash. I hated sitting with a group and it taking about 2 minutes to kill a frikin bumblebee. 6 people beating the hell out of a mob for 2 whole minutes. I was a brigand and my great massive damaging attacks were barely doing anything to the mobs. How boring and lame. </p><p>I hear EQ2 changed so much in the last year and a half and ppl say it's actually alot better now than it was in 04-05 when I played. Now I see the greatest expansion that ever came out in EQ1 is finally being brought to EQ2. I loved Kunark more than any other continent. Those Glory days in LOIO, Seb, Skyfire Mountains,Chardok,Karnor's Castle, etc etc. Man I loved Kunark! Killing Trakanon and Venril Sathir for the first time felt so exhilerating, I'll never forget it. Ahhhh the memories. But its a shame this had to come out so late <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Who knows, maybe AoC and GnH will both suck and I could still possibly find my way back to EQ2...</p></blockquote>

Cusashorn
07-10-2007, 09:27 PM
<p><span style="font-size: xx-large"><a href="http://eq2vault.ign.com/screenshots/?ss=2098&page=1&cat=26" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">SARNAK!</a></span></p>

Norrsken
07-10-2007, 09:29 PM
<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><p><span style="font-size: xx-large"><a href="http://eq2vault.ign.com/screenshots/?ss=2098&page=1&cat=26" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">SARNAK!</a></span></p></blockquote>Is that a male or a female? <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Josgar
07-10-2007, 09:30 PM
looks male

darkmagic
07-10-2007, 09:31 PM
I think female, the breast plate thing seems to cover up that area more than i would believe the male version would.. and it looks more female than male to me..

Cusashorn
07-10-2007, 09:33 PM
<p>Yes, It has quite a short beak, I imagine males are more elongated.</p><p>Also: Sarnak and Iksar are reptillian creatures. No breasts or nipples, so no need for censorship. Heck, the female Iksar monks in EQlive went barechested.</p>

Josgar
07-10-2007, 09:34 PM
ummmm.... who knows

Mirander_1
07-10-2007, 09:41 PM
Anyone else notice that the Sarnak is looking a little...stumpy, on the backside?  But nice looking aside from that <img src="/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.

Norrsken
07-10-2007, 09:43 PM
<cite>Mirander_1 wrote:</cite><blockquote>Anyone else notice that the Sarnak is looking a little...stumpy, on the backside?  But nice looking aside from that <img src="/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.</blockquote>Meh, early graphics. bound to be a bit rough. I think the feet are huge myself. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Cusashorn
07-10-2007, 09:44 PM
If that's a player model and not just a gussied up NPC model, then there's a chance the armor it's wearing will become available for everyone.

Mirander_1
07-10-2007, 09:47 PM
Ulvhamne@Nagafen wrote: <blockquote><cite>Mirander_1 wrote:</cite><blockquote>Anyone else notice that the Sarnak is looking a little...stumpy, on the backside?  But nice looking aside from that <img src="/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.</blockquote>Meh, early graphics. bound to be a bit rough. I think the feet are huge myself. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </blockquote>Heh; well, I was reffering more to the fact that it seems to be missing its tail.  I'm guessing they just haven't finished animating it, or something

Cusashorn
07-10-2007, 09:51 PM
Yeah, it didn't have a tail, but it had a tail shadow.

Josgar
07-10-2007, 09:53 PM
I see part of a tail.

Larogi
07-10-2007, 10:50 PM
<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote>Yeah, it didn't have a tail, but it had a tail shadow.</blockquote><p> <b><span style="color: #3333ff">It is not the tail that is the shadow, it is the cloth from the armor that is draping down between its legs.</span></b></p>

Cusashorn
07-10-2007, 10:55 PM
Abelard@Oasis wrote: <blockquote><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote>Yeah, it didn't have a tail, but it had a tail shadow.</blockquote><p> <b><span style="color: #3333ff">It is not the tail that is the shadow, it is the cloth from the armor that is draping down between its legs.</span></b></p></blockquote>Look again. Square cloth doesn't result in a curving shadow with spikes on the end.

Vyrance
07-10-2007, 11:37 PM
IGN has a few screenshots posted: <a href="http://media.pc.ign.com/media/904/904608/imgs_1.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://media.pc.ign.com/media/904/9...608/imgs_1.html</a>

Josgar
07-10-2007, 11:38 PM
zam and a few websites have those three too... they are in the soe press center.

Winter
07-11-2007, 03:14 AM
<cite>Mirander_1 wrote:</cite><blockquote>Anyone else notice that the Sarnak is looking a little...stumpy, on the backside?  But nice looking aside from that <img src="/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.</blockquote> <span style="color: #ff99ff">Stumpy looking? I don't think so, I think it fits as their tail appears to be more of the centerpiece back there while their hip bones stick out in a very dragon-like way... Look at large lizards, for example, then imagine them upright... They really wouldn't have very nice butts... um... But that brings to mind a question... Why were you looking at Sarnak hiney, you silly monkey!<img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> jk</span>

Galithdor
07-11-2007, 08:06 AM
That screenshot got me excited about the race even more lol great <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Im actually surprised i havent seen any all sarnak guild ideas popping up

Wildmage
07-11-2007, 01:04 PM
I hate to burst people's bubbles but I HIGHLY doubt that model is the PC version, it looks like the classic sarnak, not the mutated PC sarnack we were promised.  the armor its wearing is also more or less the same armor EQ1 sarnak wore and is unlikely to be equipable armor.

Lotus
07-11-2007, 02:41 PM
Just wanted to pop in to note that these are NPC Sarnak screen shots and Not PC.  Expect to see some early screen shots and possibly more of the PC version around Fan Fair time.  There will be a visual and lore difference between the PC and NPC version, just as there is with the High Elf and the New Tunaria High Elf. 

Josgar
07-11-2007, 04:16 PM
<cite>Lotus wrote:</cite><blockquote>Just wanted to pop in to note that these are NPC Sarnak screen shots and Not PC.  Expect to see some early screen shots and possibly more of the PC version around Fan Fair time.  There will be a visual and lore difference between the PC and NPC version, just as there is with the High Elf and the New Tunaria <strike>High Elf</strike>.  </blockquote>New tunarians are rubbish, and they should not be considered high elves >.>

Cusashorn
07-11-2007, 05:07 PM
<cite>Josgar wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Lotus wrote:</cite><blockquote>Just wanted to pop in to note that these are NPC Sarnak screen shots and Not PC.  Expect to see some early screen shots and possibly more of the PC version around Fan Fair time.  There will be a visual and lore difference between the PC and NPC version, just as there is with the High Elf and the New Tunaria <strike>High Elf</strike>.  </blockquote>New tunarians are rubbish, and they should not be considered high elves >.></blockquote> They dont consider themselve high elves. They call themselves New Elves now.

Arbreth
07-11-2007, 05:35 PM
<p>hmm...</p><p>Looks like we hired a few refugees from the WoW art department - those feet are huge, and I swear I've seen that dragon before, but in crayola colors...</p><p>But the Sarnak overall looks pretty cool!</p>

Galithdor
07-11-2007, 05:40 PM
<cite>Arbreth wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>hmm...</p><p>Looks like we hired a few refugees from the WoW art department - those feet are huge, and I swear I've seen that dragon before, but in crayola colors...</p><p>But the Sarnak overall looks pretty cool!</p></blockquote>Well Lotus just said those are NPC sarnak lol so it dosnt really matter <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> a ton of NPC's have huge feet (and so do a few player races...)

Mirander_1
07-11-2007, 06:55 PM
<cite>Lotus wrote:</cite><blockquote>Just wanted to pop in to note that these are NPC Sarnak screen shots and Not PC.  Expect to see some early screen shots and possibly more of the PC version around Fan Fair time.  There will be a visual and lore difference between the PC and NPC version, just as there is with the High Elf and the New Tunaria High Elf.  </blockquote>So... if there's a visual difference between PC and NPC Sarnaks, does that mean that all the concept art we've seen so far of Sarnaks are NPC as well, and we haven't actually seen anything of the player Sarnaks yet?

Lotus
07-11-2007, 07:07 PM
Correct, only NPC concepts have been released to the public.

Willias
07-11-2007, 07:15 PM
<cite>Arbreth wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>hmm...</p><p>Looks like we hired a few refugees from the WoW art department - those feet are huge, and I swear I've seen that dragon before, but in crayola colors...</p><p>But the Sarnak overall looks pretty cool!</p></blockquote>That's no dragon! That's a wyvern!  /awesome

LexiThePirate
07-11-2007, 07:22 PM
Whats the froglok-like creature? I know the name of it but can't place it off the top of my head.

Cusashorn
07-11-2007, 07:47 PM
<cite>LexiThePirate wrote:</cite><blockquote>Whats the froglok-like creature? I know the name of it but can't place it off the top of my head. </blockquote><p> That's no froglok. That's a full-blown fish. Reminds me of the Slarhilugs from the Plane of Nightmare.</p><p>Frogloks dont have pointed teeth (Do they even have teeth?) They may be the Sokokarr, but they don't look very avian to me.</p>

LexiThePirate
07-11-2007, 07:52 PM
<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>LexiThePirate wrote:</cite><blockquote>Whats the froglok-like creature? I know the name of it but can't place it off the top of my head. </blockquote><p> That's no froglok. That's a full-blown fish. Reminds me of the Slarhilugs from the Plane of Nightmare.</p><p>Frogloks dont have pointed teeth (Do they even have teeth?) They may be the Sokarr, but they don't look very avian to me.</p></blockquote> Thats it.  That's probably why it slipped my mind, because its such an unusual name; I wonder if they are Slarhilugs, would that mean the Plane of Fear and its co-planes are slipping further into view?

PonderStibbons
07-11-2007, 09:47 PM
<a href="http://eq2vault.ign.com/screenshots/full_res.php?ss=2097" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Feed me! Feed me NOW!</a> Some nice looking artwork headed this way f'sure.

Winter
07-11-2007, 09:55 PM
<cite>Lotus wrote:</cite><blockquote>Just wanted to pop in to note that these are NPC Sarnak screen shots and Not PC.  Expect to see some early screen shots and possibly more of the PC version around Fan Fair time.  There will be a visual and lore difference between the PC and NPC version, just as there is with the High Elf and the New Tunaria High Elf.  </blockquote> <span style="color: #ff66ff">Thanks, Lotus!<img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Awesome. I had a feeling that either they may look different - I couldn't even imagine trying to get current armors on the ones we've seen. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I look forward to seeing what you guys have done!<img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> EEEEE!<img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Excited<img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></span>

Nayurayne
07-11-2007, 09:55 PM
I said this in the other Sarnak screenshot thread and I'll say it here too. I hope that the player models keep that beautiful body shape the NPC has. I really hope they don't use the excuse of genetic/magical mutation as a way just to give the Sarnak the same old bodies everyone else has with a Sarnak shaped head.

Wildmage
07-11-2007, 10:29 PM
<img src="http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/pics/sarnak_legionnaire.jpg" border="0"> Compare this the Sarnak screenshot pretty much its a graphical upgrade of this model, not that that is a bad thing.

Looth
07-11-2007, 11:41 PM
<p>I have to say that even though that is the NPC version of the Sarnak, I really like it.  The only thing I would change is make the feet less fat and give it a longer tail like the old EQ1 Sarnaks.  Either way, I am really getting excited about starting my Sarnak when the expansion comes out... </p><p>Now I just got to decided.... Assassin or Monk... Decissions Decissions</p><p><img src="/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Willias
07-12-2007, 01:38 AM
<cite>Wildmage wrote:</cite><blockquote> Compare this the Sarnak screenshot pretty much its a graphical upgrade of this model, not that that is a bad thing. </blockquote>I'd even say it's a good, nay, a wonderful thing. EQ1's stuff, especially the old Original to Velious expansion stuff, had a pretty awesome feel and look to it.  I'd really prefer just seeing things get vastly upgraded models that keep the feel of the originals compared to brand new stuff that doesn't make sense, and doesn't fit the original mold at all. Edit:  I just hope that when they add in Kunarkian Goblins, that they make them look like the old EQ1 Kunark goblins.  They had this punk feel to them that I really liked compared to the "other" goblins scattered across Norrath.

Wildmage
07-12-2007, 04:16 AM
<cite>Willias wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Wildmage wrote:</cite><blockquote> Compare this the Sarnak screenshot pretty much its a graphical upgrade of this model, not that that is a bad thing. </blockquote>I'd even say it's a good, nay, a wonderful thing. EQ1's stuff, especially the old Original to Velious expansion stuff, had a pretty awesome feel and look to it.  I'd really prefer just seeing things get vastly upgraded models that keep the feel of the originals compared to brand new stuff that doesn't make sense, and doesn't fit the original mold at all. Edit:  I just hope that when they add in Kunarkian Goblins, that they make them look like the old EQ1 Kunark goblins.  They had this punk feel to them that I really liked compared to the "other" goblins scattered across Norrath. </blockquote>Yeah I loved the whole tongue thing and masks hehe, I kinda feel that the goblins in DoF have to be related to kunark goblins with those mask's their sporting. Pretty Much for Kunark style mobs If it ain't broke don't fix it would be a good attitude, I want upgraded graphics of the giant leeches, drovlag(don't use the hulkgnolls of Splitpaw please), the Angry Sasquatch, iksar skellies (personal favorite and I think a likely chance to be <u>Someone's</u> pet upgrade Necro or Sk temp pet).

Enever
07-12-2007, 04:31 AM
<cite>Nayukhuut wrote:</cite><blockquote>I said this in the other Sarnak screenshot thread and I'll say it here too. I hope that the player models keep that beautiful body shape the NPC has. I really hope they don't use the excuse of genetic/magical mutation as a way just to give the Sarnak the same old bodies everyone else has with a Sarnak shaped head.</blockquote> As I did in the other thread...I agree with you.

Winter
07-12-2007, 04:35 AM
<span style="font-size: medium; color: #ff66ff; font-family: comic sans ms,sand">I feel they will be more human like than the NPC counterparts. I know some may disagree with that *IF* that is the case, but you must think of it from a development standpoint - the armor situation, fitting it to each model, etc. I could be wrong, but I really think they will be bulkier and probably between old sarnak and iksar build-wise... That's my theory. ^_^</span>

Ordate
07-12-2007, 04:37 AM
<cite>Loothur wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Now I just got to decided.... Assassin or Monk... Decissions Decissions</p><p><img src="/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p></blockquote> Umm last I heard, neither!  Again this was the last I heard, but only neutrals would be starting in the new city.  Aka guard, zerk, druids, bards, wiz/lock.

Enever
07-12-2007, 04:40 AM
<cite>Winter wrote:</cite><blockquote><span style="font-size: medium; font-family: comic sans ms,sand"><span style="color: #ff66ff">I feel they will be more human like than the NPC counterparts. I know some may disagree with that *IF* that is the case, but you must think of it from a development standpoint - the armor situation, fitting it to each model, etc. I could be wrong, but I really think they will be bulkier and probably between old sarnak and iksar build-wise... That's my theory. ^_^</span></span></blockquote>They could do something similar to that of the ratonga. I like that model as well. One of the reasons why I play ratonga is because they're different from the others. Heck I'd be happy if it looks like the concept art version. That Art version and the NPC one do look a bit different, and it's not because of One's drawn and the other's modeled.

Nayurayne
07-12-2007, 04:47 AM
<p>Yeah the Ratonga are okay, but I would miss the big feet. Frogloks have big feet. Heh, stretch out the frogloks! It might work right?</p><p>Anyway, that was one thing my other game did well. You had the humanoid races such as elves and whatnot and you had the beast races like the reptilian sslik...that to be honest look a lot like the sarnak but with a stubbier tale and different head. They had the different body shapes was my point.</p>

Enever
07-12-2007, 04:50 AM
It could, I chose the ratonga, because they are pretty humanoid looking, and they have big feet, just not as big as the NPC sarnak. I'd hate for the Digitgrade look to be taken away. That really gives them that beastman look.

Nayurayne
07-12-2007, 04:55 AM
<p>Yeah, I agree. </p><p> I thought I should also note that the sarnak in the concept art is also an NPC. We've had to pictures of the playable sarnak race, concept or otherwise...unfortunatly.</p>

Deadrus
07-12-2007, 11:24 AM
I realy hope the play able sarnak dont look too differnt from the old sarnak. Beacuse if they are iksar with a sarnak head and a thiner tail i will be [Removed for Content]. Iksar dont get there old home back and the new playable sarnak dont look like sarnak? That would be horible. I really wan the playable sarnak to be as close to the orginal sarnak as posible. As far as armor goes the devs said along with the new skeletal system theyve been working on for a year they said they are also doing like and armor morphing techonlogy to resize the armor atomaticly around the bodys. So I really hope sarnak keep there unique look. I mean Froglocks aren't like any of the other races. I really think the sarnak should be just as unique looking as they alwasy have. Don't humanize them please SOE.

Enever
07-12-2007, 12:00 PM
Ok Ten Ton hammer showed a little of the Expansion...I'm officially in love. The Sarnak don't look too different, thank god. They do look different from the NPC, but not completely. They still have the digitgrade look, not much of one, but it passes. They are similar to the Feerott's Lizardmen model. <a href="http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/9013" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/9013</a> This is the Ten Ton Hammer E3 Video of the new expansion. I got the link form my guild's website. The Sarnak PC models are a pass for me here, heh.

Snowdonia
07-12-2007, 12:29 PM
<cite>Ordate wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Loothur wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Now I just got to decided.... Assassin or Monk... Decissions Decissions</p><p><img src="/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p></blockquote> Umm last I heard, neither!  Again this was the last I heard, but only neutrals would be starting in the new city.  Aka guard, zerk, druids, bards, wiz/lock.</blockquote>Can you post a link? I've not heard anything definitive about what classes are going to be allowed the Sarnak. Yes, they are goin to be a neutral race with a neutral city, but other neutral races can also be good and evil classes if they pick a side then keep that race when going into Exile and staying in Exile or moving to Maj'Dul. There is currently no class that a neutral race cannot be so I find it hard to believe they would go against precedence and cut off OVER half of the games classes to the Sarnak by only allowing them to undertake classes that are shared by both good and evil alignments. A link with a statement stating such would be helpful. Thanks

Ixalmaris
07-12-2007, 01:30 PM
I don't think the Sarnak will be limited to neutral classes as they would be unable to play a lot of class types (Brawlers, Crusaders etc). Can anyone guess what class the Sarnak PC was in the video?

Willias
07-12-2007, 02:12 PM
<cite>Enever wrote:</cite><blockquote>Ok Ten Ton hammer showed a little of the Expansion...I'm officially in love. The Sarnak don't look too different, thank god. They do look different from the NPC, but not completely. They still have the digitgrade look, not much of one, but it passes. They are similar to the Feerott's Lizardmen model. <a href="http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/9013" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/9013</a> This is the Ten Ton Hammer E3 Video of the new expansion. I got the link form my guild's website. The Sarnak PC models are a pass for me here, heh. </blockquote><b>Awesome.</b> One thing that wasn't noted though, is that he mentioned that both Iksar and Sarnak can start in the Timorous Deep.  Maybe this "neutral city" isn't so much neutral as it is a new faction that doesn't side with Qeynos or Freeport. If there's a new city for both Sarnak and Iksar in the TD, that is going to be my mystics new home.  Screw these softskins.

Ixalmaris
07-12-2007, 02:38 PM
I am a bit confused as according to that interview the main enemies of Sarnak are Aviaks and Dragons and not Iksars.

Winter
07-12-2007, 02:41 PM
<span style="font-size: medium; color: #ff66ff; font-family: comic sans ms,sand">YAAAAY!<img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> So excited! *puts little dragon-like horns on her head and dances around* Happy Daaaance! *looks around, takes off the horns, and composes herself* I'm... I'm excited <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I wanna play a Sarnak. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> By the way, Lotus, you mentioned earlier that the models for PC Sarnak aren't ready yet - that model Scott was playing with looked a LOT like an NPC Sarnak, would I be correct in that? Either way, they look amazing.</span>

Lotus
07-12-2007, 03:00 PM
Scott was driving around the Player Race version of the Sarnak.  What you saw in that video is very early on our part.  The Sarnak PC changes daily as we hone in on the look and feel of what we are reaching for.  If you watch closely you will notice that only a few animations are hooked up to the new player race.  On turns and such you can see the Sarnak pop up as it plays standard humanoid animations.

Winter
07-12-2007, 03:07 PM
<cite>Lotus wrote:</cite><blockquote>Scott was driving around the Player Race version of the Sarnak.  What you saw in that video is very early on our part.  The Sarnak PC changes daily as we hone in on the look and feel of what we are reaching for.  If you watch closely you will notice that only a few animations are hooked up to the new player race.  On turns and such you can see the Sarnak pop up as it plays standard humanoid animations. </blockquote><span style="font-size: medium; color: #ff99ff; font-family: comic sans ms,sand">Rock on, I see that now. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Wow, that looks like a difficult model to put the armor on. You guys are super talented!</span>

Nayurayne
07-12-2007, 03:08 PM
Aww Lotus you had to go an say that eh? The model that was there isn't to bad (I think I saw feet different from humans, was hard to see). I still like the huge feet of the NPC one but that tail on the player one is beautiful. Although we didn't actually see anything in much detail. Hopefully if that model changes at all it becomes only more beastlike.

Willias
07-12-2007, 03:21 PM
<cite>Lotus wrote:</cite><blockquote>Scott was driving around the Player Race version of the Sarnak.  What you saw in that video is very early on our part.  The Sarnak PC changes daily as we hone in on the look and feel of what we are reaching for.  If you watch closely you will notice that only a few animations are hooked up to the new player race.  On turns and such you can see the Sarnak pop up as it plays standard humanoid animations. </blockquote>Ah.  Either way, it looks great. Oh, and confirm/deny please:  Iksar and Sarnak can both start in TD?    Pretty please?  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Wildmage
07-12-2007, 05:46 PM
<cite>Winter wrote:</cite><blockquote><span style="font-size: medium; font-family: comic sans ms,sand"><span style="color: #ff66ff">YAAAAY!<img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> So excited! *puts little dragon-like horns on her head and dances around* Happy Daaaance! *looks around, takes off the horns, and composes herself* I'm... I'm excited <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I wanna play a Sarnak. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> By the way, Lotus, you mentioned earlier that the models for PC Sarnak aren't ready yet - that model Scott was playing with looked a LOT like an NPC Sarnak, would I be correct in that? Either way, they look amazing.</span></span></blockquote>okay...no more sugar and caffeine for the fae girl...

Winter
07-12-2007, 08:00 PM
<cite>Wildmage wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Winter wrote:</cite><blockquote><span style="font-size: medium; color: #ff66ff; font-family: comic sans ms,sand">YAAAAY!<img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> So excited! *puts little dragon-like horns on her head and dances around* Happy Daaaance! *looks around, takes off the horns, and composes herself* I'm... I'm excited <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I wanna play a Sarnak. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> By the way, Lotus, you mentioned earlier that the models for PC Sarnak aren't ready yet - that model Scott was playing with looked a LOT like an NPC Sarnak, would I be correct in that? Either way, they look amazing.</blockquote>okay...no more sugar and caffeine for the fae girl... </blockquote> <span style="font-size: small"><span style="color: #ff66ff; font-family: comic sans ms,sand">:o noooooo. Must... have... caffeine and sugar! o.o jk Sorry, I get enthusiastic to say the least. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></span></span>

Galithdor
07-12-2007, 08:08 PM
Well with that new e3 video we have an image of what the sarnak will look like now. I must say they dont look like humans with a tail and a sarnak head on them, they are actually sort of hunchbacked like on eq1 <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Nayurayne
07-12-2007, 08:32 PM
<p>I actually rather like the hunched over look and that tail is beautiful too. Nice and long. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I always thought the iksar tail was rather short and stubbish. I do wonder how tall they are though. I mean either that's one small sarnak or one frikken huge Droag.</p>

Wildmage
07-12-2007, 09:48 PM
<cite>Nayukhuut wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I actually rather like the hunched over look and that tail is beautiful too. Nice and long. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I always thought the iksar tail was rather short and stubbish. I do wonder how tall they are though. I mean either that's one small sarnak or one frikken huge Droag.</p></blockquote>Iksar tails have suffered from cloak implementation they used to be more...erect and now they tend to droop more. went from about a -45 degree angle to -90 degrees.

Nayurayne
07-13-2007, 12:03 AM
Yeah that's one of the reasons I don't use my cloak as an iskar. I hate how my tail just swings right through the flesh of my legs. Not so bad without the cloak though.

Wildmage
07-13-2007, 12:22 AM
I just wear a long cloak and forget I have one it keeps going into my poor Warg's lower back anyway, though heres hoping the Skeletal revamp will make iksar tails (and sarnak tails eventually) stop violating our mounts spine.

Looth
07-13-2007, 11:24 AM
<p>It's funny you mention that because I watched the video before reading this reply by you, and I just assumed that they stood upright when strafing hahaha... I just had assumed that was part of their movent nature <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  ... you know like how very cautious animals stand errect when they are looking for predators.</p><p></p><p>Lotus wrote: </p><blockquote>Scott was driving around the Player Race version of the Sarnak.  What you saw in that video is very early on our part.  The Sarnak PC changes daily as we hone in on the look and feel of what we are reaching for.  If you watch closely you will notice that only a few animations are hooked up to the new player race.  On turns and such you can see the Sarnak pop up as it plays standard humanoid animations. </blockquote>

Galithdor
07-13-2007, 05:53 PM
yeah i did notice that it looked wierd lol hope it is almost complete by fan faire so we can see screenshots of the front <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Cusashorn
07-13-2007, 06:34 PM
<cite>Ixalmaris wrote:</cite><blockquote>I am a bit confused as according to that interview the main enemies of Sarnak are Aviaks and Dragons and not Iksars. </blockquote> That doesn't mean the Iksar won't be enemies.

FlamingDuck
07-24-2007, 10:37 PM
<p>Have they released any pics of a female sarnak yet? Really curious what they are gonna look like I can't wait to play one either. </p><p>Only thing that put me off is the oversized feet, reminds me of WoW too much lol. But they were like that in EQ1 I guess. </p>

Zabjade
07-24-2007, 10:46 PM
<span style="color: #00cc00">Hmm that hunched over look could work for PC Gnolls as well....</span>

Kaikeyi
08-13-2007, 01:57 PM
Has anyone heard what classes the Sarnak will be able to utilize? Karen

Leatherneck
08-13-2007, 02:04 PM
<cite>Kaikeyi wrote:</cite><blockquote>Has anyone heard what classes the Sarnak will be able to utilize? Karen </blockquote> Given that every race can be every class, I suspect Sarnak will be able to be any class they wish.

Gi
11-01-2007, 07:58 PM
Will there be a female choice in the Sarnak playable race?  I hope so... one of my favoritist toons in any MMO ever was a female iksar in EQ1. 

GwenRelentless
11-01-2007, 08:14 PM
<p>Looks female to me too. I wonder how customizable they will be. What I mean is, I don't really see how you can make one sarnak face look very much different then another. I guess customization will have to come in the form of scale patterns and horn configurations. All in all i think they are pretty scary looking and will appeal more to men then women so I would venture to guess after the intial glow wears off most sarnaks we see running around a year from now will be male. </p>

Wildmage
11-02-2007, 01:12 AM
<cite>GwenRelentless wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Looks female to me too. I wonder how customizable they will be. What I mean is, I don't really see how you can make one sarnak face look very much different then another. I guess customization will have to come in the form of scale patterns and horn configurations. All in all i think they are pretty scary looking and will appeal more to men then women so I would venture to guess after the intial glow wears off most sarnaks we see running around a year from now will be male. </p></blockquote>yeah my poor Troll Brigand has a hard time keeping a woman...they keep escaping!

Skua
11-02-2007, 01:28 AM
<cite>Wildmage wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>GwenRelentless wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Looks female to me too. I wonder how customizable they will be. What I mean is, I don't really see how you can make one sarnak face look very much different then another. I guess customization will have to come in the form of scale patterns and horn configurations. All in all i think they are pretty scary looking and will appeal more to men then women so I would venture to guess after the intial glow wears off most sarnaks we see running around a year from now will be male. </p></blockquote>yeah my poor Troll Brigand has a hard time keeping a woman...they keep escaping!</blockquote>females get Faes + Arasai...aren enough ? D:

Wildmage
11-02-2007, 01:30 AM
<cite>SkuaII wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Wildmage wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>GwenRelentless wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Looks female to me too. I wonder how customizable they will be. What I mean is, I don't really see how you can make one sarnak face look very much different then another. I guess customization will have to come in the form of scale patterns and horn configurations. All in all i think they are pretty scary looking and will appeal more to men then women so I would venture to guess after the intial glow wears off most sarnaks we see running around a year from now will be male. </p></blockquote>yeah my poor Troll Brigand has a hard time keeping a woman...they keep escaping!</blockquote>females get Faes + Arasai...aren enough ? D:</blockquote>he keeps eating the pretty butterflies, says they taste like sugar cookies.