Shissar, Sarnak, and Iksar

[LichKing06]

<p>How do you think these races will play out in terms of the storyline of RoK?  Will the Iksar reclaim Cabilis, Old Sebilis, etc?  Also, discuss what side you think the Sarnak will take, evil, good, or neutral?  What's your envisionment of Karnor's to be like?  Still gonna have the hulking wolves?  Also, the spiders... I know you all remember them.  And whatever happened to FV?</p><p>This is going to cause an epic shift in the storyline methinks.</p><p>What would sony do if a dozen groups of level 70 Iksar raided the Sarnak city weekly or so?  <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Honestly, I think there should be a huge Sarnak vs Iksar event.</p><p>And what happened to the FG fort? Is it going to be full of giant skellies?</p><p>I wanna know your thoughts.  Discuss.</p><p>I just know I'm excited to tear some Sarnak apart on the PvP server *hiss, grin*</p>

[LichKing06]

<p>Oh, and I forgot to mention...</p><p>As followers of the storyline know, the Dark Elves were slowly trying to conquer all of Norrath under their rule.  With Neriak back under the might of the Teir'Dal, what do you think will come of Kunark, and their former outpost in The Overthere?  Do you guys think it still stands?  If so, will there be another giant war between the Dark Elves and High Elves?  Or perhaps a whole new breed of elves exists on Kunark now?</p>

[LordPazuzu]

<p>The Shissar are a non-issue.  In the EQ2 timeline they are totally wiped out.</p><p>I'm hoping for a return of the Velious style faction game with RoK and the opposing factions.</p>

[Cusashorn]

<cite>LichKing06 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>What would sony do if a dozen groups of level 70 Iksar raided the Sarnak city weekly or so?  <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p></blockquote>They'd removed the dozen groups of level 70 Iksar raiders from the game.

[Deadrus]

<p>How are shissar a non issue? Just because we havent seen them yet doesnt mean we wont see them. The exscaped the green mist and fled to Luclin who's to say they werent able to excape the destruction of luclin. And it seem that there is still life on Luclin because of the reactivation of the wizard spires. Part of Luclin must be still inhabitable. </p>

[DMIstar]

Shissar Cant Be a none issue with the Buried Sea Expansion about. Proves they where not all in Luclin. But I have doubts we will see them on kunark ;/. Cabilis is underwater, and Was only a refuge city since the wars, Storyline has VS leading the iksar and reclaiming Sebilis.. So we have seb back. Drolvarg where umm slaves sorta to VS, I dont see where the current Iksar Empire would have them Hanging around Seb, or if VS just dumped KC all together. Drovlargs also had Places in FV.. Maybe alot of them escaped VS in the end, and might of Claimed KC ? Storyline right now is saying Sarnak (Already mentioned to be neutral race) Have been divided, most pushed to west into Chardock and what ever remanenets that fled to TD. Giants have been pushed to the north, i believe it was said.. Im quite sure the forest giants are still around.. Questions that i have is the old ruins around Cabilis ... Kurns tower and Keasora and such ? and what of the Port in FV ? I guess iksar occupied =P

[Cusashorn]

Bloodravenger@Mistmoore wrote: <blockquote>Shissar Cant Be a none issue with the Buried Sea Expansion about. Proves they where not all in Luclin. </blockquote> That expansion came out after the time split happened, and just because that expansion's lore states that city was there for aeons does not give it a grandfather clause to exist in EQ2's timeline.

[Deadrus]

Cusashorn just because they get the expantion well after the time line split doesnt have to mean the back ground lore isn't legit in eq2. If it existed for aeons ago in eq1s time lines then it should very well exist in eq2 timeline. Though in maybe a differnt fassion because of the cataclysm and all. The Shissar are an intelegent race that seem to be very good at AT LEAST one thing and thats staying alive. They excaped the greenmist went to luclin where it was hard to get to becasue of the lack of atmosphere on that particular part. Who's to say they didnt excape luclins destructoin and who's to say some still aren't in the burried sea. We'll have to see what the EQ2 devs say before we have people saying we wont EVER see the Shissar in eq2. I wont belive it untill a dev says no shissar.

[Cusashorn]

<p>Thats what I said. The expansion came out well after EQ2. Only THEN was the lore introduced that this city existed before the time split. That doesn't give it a grandfather clause to justify it's existance.</p><p>Of course, it's really up to the developers.</p>

[LordPazuzu]

<p>The Ulteran Spires are not powered by the Nexus.  Neither are the druid rings.  The Ulteran Spires are powered by Norrathian magic and the druid rings are powered by divine magic.  The Gfay spires are the only Combine spires left and they themselves were dormant until the gods returned, insinuating that their activation is also divine in nature.</p><p>The Shissar that survived the Greenmist did so by escaping to Luclin.  Luclin was destroyed utterly and without any warning to its inhabitants.  It's a burning hunk of fiery death orbiting above the planet.  The Buried Sea expansion was released well after the two games' world timelines officially split after Planes of Power and is therefore non-canon in the EverQuest 2 universe.  Any attempt to  bring the Shissar back at this point would be incredibly cheesey.  Besides, the Shissar weren't even all that interesting to begin with.</p>

[Vyrance]

<cite>LordPazuzu wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The Shissar are a non-issue.  In the EQ2 timeline they are totally wiped out.</p><p>I'm hoping for a return of the Velious style faction game with RoK and the opposing factions.</p></blockquote>actually, we dont know if Shissar are alive or not in EQ2 yet.

[Josgar]

I want good ol' Firiona Vie back!

[Deadrus]

I love the Shissar i think they are a very cool race and i'd love to see them redone in eq2 graphics engine. Also the combine spires were shut down during the asult on the nexus. They didnt magicly shut off when the Gods left. The druid rings maybe because the druid rings and the wizard spires are 2 differnt types of magic. But in the lore the nexus was assulted and then the spires fell quiet. I really think there is a link between the Nexus and the Combine spires. And the only combine spire we have now is the one in g/fay that doent mean the other ones are gone. There is one in Kunark. We are geting Kunark in november so we should have 2 combine spires then. Also on Odus and Velious. And im sure we will have more combine spires back once we get the rest of the expantions. Also there maybe a combine spire on a yet unfound part of antoinica. And there should be a combine spire burried in the deserts of ro like there was in eqlive.

[DMIstar]

<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Thats what I said. The expansion came out well after EQ2. Only THEN was the lore introduced that this city existed before the time split. That doesn't give it a grandfather clause to justify it's existance.</p><p>Of course, it's really up to the developers.</p></blockquote> Not all lore is out in the open either. Devs said they had a ton to work with.. And it doesnt mean that i was used in a later exapansion that its completly new lore at all. The First Shissar Seen was in PoFear.. Looked nothing like the luclin ones... In the end, I dont expect them in the new expansion due to alot of different focuss at the time.. Sarnak is the major thing to work on now. Maybe hints would be nice.. But Im sure Shissar will be about in another expansion.

[Borlok]

<p>Maybe the Sarnak will cross breed snakes and men for slaves, much as they were bred from dragons and iksar themselves...and there ya go, the Shissar are back.  Or maybe Iksar and snakes, since they would share many biological traits.</p><p>Would be an interesting, "history repeats itself" sort of thing.</p>

[Wildmage]

as of the E3 video I think its safe to say no shissar we will be menaced by Aviaks, Droag, and Dragons from the looks of it.  The foes of the Sarnak appear to all be aerial menaces.

[Cusashorn]

Bloodravenger@Mistmoore wrote: <blockquote><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Thats what I said. The expansion came out well after EQ2. Only THEN was the lore introduced that this city existed before the time split. That doesn't give it a grandfather clause to justify it's existance.</p><p>Of course, it's really up to the developers.</p></blockquote> Not all lore is out in the open either. Devs said they had a ton to work with.. And it doesnt mean that i was used in a later exapansion that its completly new lore at all. The First Shissar Seen was in PoFear.. Looked nothing like the luclin ones... In the end, I dont expect them in the new expansion due to alot of different focuss at the time.. Sarnak is the major thing to work on now. Maybe hints would be nice.. But Im sure Shissar will be about in another expansion. </blockquote>I remember that particular monster. It was an Iksar, until Luclin came out when they finally changed it.