View Full Version : Buckler Reversal clarification
Raahl
07-03-2007, 11:48 AM
Does it proc when the target blocks/parries/etc any attack or just the attack that you make?
Xalmat
07-03-2007, 02:09 PM
Yes, whenever you parry, riposte, or block, AND whenever your enemies parry, riposte, or block.
Snorm
07-04-2007, 03:05 AM
<p>But no more than once every 30 seconds. In practice it procs almost exactly every 30 seconds.</p><p> Snorm -- 70 Guard</p>
Consumer2
07-04-2007, 11:12 PM
Ok now im confused. people are saying it procs like 7 or 8 times every 30secs. has anyone parsed this to see it ONLY procs ONCE every 30secs?
Pratell
07-05-2007, 12:08 AM
only once. read the spell. it's the same as Lunge Reversal for rogues.
Consumer2
07-05-2007, 12:28 AM
heh ok. I thought it was once every 30secs, but people on the forums are arguing it proc's : You dodge You parry You block --- +3 and They dodge They parry They block -- +3 = 6 procs per 30 secs = loads of dps ;p
Skeptycal
07-05-2007, 03:15 AM
I haven't checked the buckler reversal in a while, but I remember when it first came out I was seeing it proc once for each type of attack. Is this not so? I remember seeing the graphic several times in a 30 sec period.
Raahl
07-05-2007, 09:52 AM
I'm not seeing it proc that often. Though it may be the mobs I've fought since the LU. From what I understand it is only suppose to proc a maximum of once ever 30 seconds. I'll try and keep an eye on it to see how much it is procing.
I have found BR to proc once every 30 seconds.
Bantel
07-08-2007, 03:09 PM
I just checked an old parse, it averaged out to once every 30 seconds, but it frequently proced more than once in 30 seconds. Here's a sample of the timers between procs from ACT: 21, 25, 18, 111, 12, 63, 122, 12, 20, 15, 52, 37, 26, 11, 6, 15, 4, 13, 68, 31, 74, 2, 11, 92, 46, 23, 85, 72, 20, 37, 4, 32, 93, 10, 15, 7, 9,
LuckyLuck
07-09-2007, 06:25 AM
<p>last time i'm in the DEN, pulled lots of Mobs and pharsed zonewide about 650dps.</p><p>40% autoattack</p><p>15% Buckler Reversal</p><p>others in the lower 10%</p>
Snorm
07-10-2007, 05:55 PM
<p>This abilitie has gone through so many variations it's just funny. At one point it would proc off of every block/parry, etc., then off of one of each per 30 seconds, then I thought they had fixed it so that you get at most one hit per 30 seconds, which is how I read the somewhat cumbersome spell description.</p><p>Just looking at a parse from last night, there are times when it's proccing more than once ever 30 sec now. It usually seems to be once over 23-26 seconds or so. The shortest delays I'm seeing are 17 and 18 seconds apart. I'm also seeing it hit more than once at the exact same time.</p><p>It's not a super critical ability really, at least not now that it doesn't proc on every hit. Last night, I got 34 DPS out of it, which puts it inline with the other second teir abilities. That's with 4 points in the skill.</p><p>Snorm -- 70 Guard</p>
Snorm
07-10-2007, 06:14 PM
<p>Yeah, it looks like it is proccing once per 30 seconds on each event. Here are the more amusing examples of that: </p><p>(1184027295)[Mon Jul 09 20:28:15 2007] Zylphax the Shredder tries to slash YOU, but YOU parry. (1184027295)[Mon Jul 09 20:28:15 2007] You counter with a Gladiator Strike! (1184027295)[Mon Jul 09 20:28:15 2007] YOU try to slash Zylphax the Shredder with Buckler Reversal, but Zylphax the Shredder parries. (1184027295)[Mon Jul 09 20:28:15 2007] You counter with a Gladiator Strike! (1184027295)[Mon Jul 09 20:28:15 2007] YOUR Buckler Reversal critically hits Zylphax the Shredder for 867 slashing damage.</p><p>(1184027175)[Mon Jul 09 20:26:15 2007] Zylphax the Shredder tries to slash YOU, but YOU parry. (1184027175)[Mon Jul 09 20:26:15 2007] You counter with a Gladiator Strike! (1184027175)[Mon Jul 09 20:26:15 2007] YOU try to slash Zylphax the Shredder with Buckler Reversal, but Zylphax the Shredder parries. (1184027175)[Mon Jul 09 20:26:15 2007] You counter with a Gladiator Strike! (1184027175)[Mon Jul 09 20:26:15 2007] YOUR Buckler Reversal hits Zylphax the Shredder for 554 slashing damage. </p><p>Snorm -- 70 Guard </p>
This came up in the berserker forums a while ago. <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=351523" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">[here]</a> To the best of my knowledge, it's one trigger per condition every 30s. On top of that, the 30s period might be reduced due to reuse timer increases (Jester's Cap, Ritual of Alacrity, etc).
CresentBlade
07-13-2007, 08:11 AM
The main thing that really annoys me about this skill is BUCKLER, I mean [Removed for Content] where they thinking? Should be Tower Shiled Reversal. Who ever came up with this ideal should be flogged with glass covered rubber bands by a guy dressed in a Barney suit.
Raahl
07-13-2007, 09:55 AM
<p>The reason it's buckler and not tower is that the buckler is more agile which allows you to counter attack easier. Tower shields are cumbersome and do not lend themselves to being more mobile/agile.</p><p>Having it changed to tower shield would be a mistake.</p><p>Lets not forget the reason for the AA lines. They are here so that we can tweak our characters to be different from each other. If you want DPS then go that route, If you want defense then go a different route.</p><p>The DPS lines are very good at increasing our DPS. However the defense lines are weak and could stand some beefing up.</p>
knightofround
07-13-2007, 11:32 AM
Even though the ability description says that it will proc once every 30 seconds, I have noticed several instances will it will proc more often; namely, on "MobX tries to attack you, but you parry!". Other times it will stay true to the once per 30 second description. I'm not sure if the recent patches have changed it; the last time I examined my logs to locate this anomaly was about 4 months ago.
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