kiss us before

[Xiziz]

Please the next time you bone us a kiss would be nice. We did not need reduction in criticals in our life tap healing

[Kaceecam]

If that is a concern to you i kindly suggest you rethink your KoS AA choices...unless perhaps yer PvP lines 4and 5 of INT should be blank:o

[Dead Knight]

What s/he said.

[Wildmage]

never bothered with line 4 as when ever the spell crits the heal crits too and the spells crit a ton.

[Controlor]

<cite>Xiziz wrote:</cite><blockquote>Please the next time you bone us a kiss would be nice. We did not need reduction in criticals in our life tap healing</blockquote>This is actually a nerf to paladins not SK's. Heal crit was already lwoer than spell crit (by about 4% or so) but with this it drops heal crit to under 50% and gives it a total of 200 to all saves. Thats not a fair trade off for 15% or so loss to heal crit chance. Heal crit didnt effect sk's one bit. But this reduction just increased the efficiency in healing yourself as a paladin vs a sk. As it stands sks heal themselves much more effeciently than a paladin will. And its quite annoying so annoying that made me switch outa wis line.

[dobanow]

heal crit AA effects Reaver ONLY...waste of points for SK

[Beldin_]

Nice example of people crying like babys about everything without even have the smallest clue about what they are talking <img src="/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Xiziz]

yes i cry like a baby all the time. thanks for explaining it to me though i resec'd and eft 4 and 5 blank went down the Str line for the 10% reduction in casting. I cant find anything to cry about in that line though <img src="/smilies/ed515dbff23a0ee3241dcc0a601c9ed6.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Wytie]

<cite>Xiziz wrote:</cite><blockquote>yes i cry like a baby all the time. thanks for explaining it to me though i resec'd and eft 4 and 5 blank went down the Str line for the 10% reduction in casting. I cant find anything to cry about in that line though <img src="/smilies/ed515dbff23a0ee3241dcc0a601c9ed6.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></blockquote> as you shouldnt but i love the wis line nothing like laughing at fears in pvp or epic raids

[MaCloud1032]

What even better in PvP is watching apoc reflect back on the other group.  Or in Deathtoll and iam on pull duty and reflecting the char<img src="/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  I do miss the fear immunity though.

[cptnapa]

<p>Actually.... there is 0 use for SK's with crit heal. And..umm... Reaver wont crit on heal crits. Give me a screenshot with a line saying "Reaver critically heals you for xxx" and I'll belive you, but I've done extensive testing, with oh, about 2000 procs of reaver, and 0 crits.....</p><p> if you want reflect, you go INT 6-8-8-0-2</p><p>/Shadarr</p>

[Controlor]

<cite>cptnapalm wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Actually.... there is 0 use for SK's with crit heal. And..umm... Reaver wont crit on heal crits. Give me a screenshot with a line saying "Reaver critically heals you for xxx" and I'll belive you, but I've done extensive testing, with oh, about 2000 procs of reaver, and 0 crits.....</p><p> if you want reflect, you go INT 6-8-8-0-2</p><p>/Shadarr</p></blockquote>QFE. And again this is a nerf to paladins with no bearing on SK's. They did this to try and have some use for SK's but until your life taps crit off crit heal and not crit spell SK's will never have use for this line. And we paladins get shafted loosing 15%+ chance to crit heal for a measly 200 to all resists (woopdie dooo).

[Norrsken]

<cite>Controlor wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>cptnapalm wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Actually.... there is 0 use for SK's with crit heal. And..umm... Reaver wont crit on heal crits. Give me a screenshot with a line saying "Reaver critically heals you for xxx" and I'll belive you, but I've done extensive testing, with oh, about 2000 procs of reaver, and 0 crits.....</p><p> if you want reflect, you go INT 6-8-8-0-2</p><p>/Shadarr</p></blockquote>QFE. And again this is a nerf to paladins with no bearing on SK's. They did this to try and have some use for SK's but until your life taps crit off crit heal and not crit spell SK's will never have use for this line. And we paladins get shafted loosing 15%+ chance to crit heal for a measly 200 to all resists (woopdie dooo). </blockquote>Yes, they could very well have left the heal crit chance were it was and added like 500-1000 to all resists, since in t7, thats about how much you'd like to have. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Controlor]

Ulvhamne@Nagafen wrote: <blockquote><cite>Controlor wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>cptnapalm wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Actually.... there is 0 use for SK's with crit heal. And..umm... Reaver wont crit on heal crits. Give me a screenshot with a line saying "Reaver critically heals you for xxx" and I'll belive you, but I've done extensive testing, with oh, about 2000 procs of reaver, and 0 crits.....</p><p> if you want reflect, you go INT 6-8-8-0-2</p><p>/Shadarr</p></blockquote>QFE. And again this is a nerf to paladins with no bearing on SK's. They did this to try and have some use for SK's but until your life taps crit off crit heal and not crit spell SK's will never have use for this line. And we paladins get shafted loosing 15%+ chance to crit heal for a measly 200 to all resists (woopdie dooo). </blockquote>Yes, they could very well have left the heal crit chance were it was and added like 500-1000 to all resists, since in t7, thats about how much you'd like to have. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </blockquote>Heh i would even be willing to give up some heal crit (still remain above 50% tho as it stands we are down to 48%). And give 100 to ALL resist / point. Heck Enchanter wis line has an aa that gives them about 40 to subj/focus and 800 to all saves (with 8 pts put into it). Give us something like that to WARENT the reduction in crit chance. But dropping from 64% to 48% and giving us paladins a measly 200 to all saves is a slap cause you SK's aint going anywhere near that aa even if it had higher resists (stead of maybe 500-1k resist PER point).

[dobanow]

<cite>cptnapalm wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Reaver wont crit on heal crits. Give me a screenshot with a line saying "Reaver critically heals you for xxx" and I'll belive you, </p></blockquote>When EoF came out heal crit AA effected reaver heal crits because it is a heal not a tap....they may have nerfed it as I only tested this last November and have not tried since

[Wildmage]

considering the description for reaver stats it heals a flat 2.5% of your maximum hp  per hostile spell I seriously doubt it crits far as I can tell mine always does 108.

[Beldin_]

<cite>dobanow wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>cptnapalm wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Reaver wont crit on heal crits. Give me a screenshot with a line saying "Reaver critically heals you for xxx" and I'll belive you, </p></blockquote>When EoF came out heal crit AA effected reaver heal crits because it is a heal not a tap....they may have nerfed it as I only tested this last November and have not tried since </blockquote>In my eyes reaver is also a lifetap because it procs on hostile spells, and is not just a spell that heals.

[dobanow]

lol I am not lying....When EoF came out I put 8 into heal crits and tried it with reaver and yes it was critting...and also when EoF came out I used a 40 to healing adorn and it bumped up reaver to 2.9% but would not go over that....I guess they changed this all but it was in the game at a point

[Beldin_]

There were also some postings before EoF that said, that heal-crits work also on all our lifetaps, so that in the end with max healcrit for the 31% were the spells wer not critical, you again get another 69% that the heal crits. Don't know .. i never tested it by myself, since i simply had better ways to spent my points *shrug* <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Crowe]

I don't really care about the reasoning. I just want my kiss.  <img src="/smilies/908627bbe5e9f6a080977db8c365caff.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />