O.K. what are Profession spells?

[Ozgood]

<p>Sounds dumb, but before I go and respec due to these changes, I want to be crystal clear what the effect does.  Moreso, I would love a dev to give us a better definition if possible.</p><p> In the INT line on the shaman tree, I believe that there is a ability that is called Immunities.  It reads as It gives <b>a chance to outright resist Profession, and NPC spells only</b>.  While your at it, does Scourge do that damage amount listed for every buff they have?</p><p>In the INT line on the Crusaders, the bottom Reflect skill has a similiar definition.</p><p>In the AGI for Bards, the enchanter tree there is similiar verbage.</p><p>So does it reflect, absorb, mitigate a PC spell?  Is it only for raids?  Please give a clear explanation if you and have tested it.</p><p>Thanks in advance!</p>

[Ozgood]

Anyone know?  If it doesn't pertain to PC spells then it sounds like one of the worst abilities in the game.

[silentpsycho]

Ozgood@Vox wrote: <blockquote>Anyone know?  If it doesn't pertain to PC spells then it sounds like one of the worst abilities in the game.</blockquote> It never triggered for me in PVP on test, and I didn't take it (for that reason) on live when I respec'ed.  But then again, my wards weren't even working there, so who knows...

[Shinnar]

<p>I think it can absorb or reflect  spell or effect from any class. Does not affect combat arts(unless they have some special effect other than damage), procs, equipment effects and so.... So if i cheapshot paladin with that reflection up, i am stunned instead of him... That is how all my assassin x paladin fights starts <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> (better be stunned than intoxicated(if it is considered proffesion effect), lol)</p><p>So i think it is good against casters, not so much against melee</p>

[Taharn]

Apparently its the other way round. Profession spells are any spell that a player can cast. what this DOESNT reflect is the unique spells/abilities that epics in raids have.

[Ozgood]

<p>So a Shaman now has a potential 8% chance to outright resist any spells and a Crusader can reflect one back (at 100%) once per minute?</p><p> If so, very interesting...very interesting indeed!</p>

[Spag]

Ozgood@Vox wrote: <blockquote><p>So a Shaman now has a potential 8% chance to outright resist any spells and a Crusader can reflect one back (at 100%) once per minute?</p><p> If so, very interesting...very interesting indeed!</p></blockquote><p> On test on my warden, vs a Paladin, I had my Pack of wolves reflected on me multiple times.  I was like [Removed for Content], it was quite interesting.  Since I was a melee spec'ed warden the pack of wolves was my only hostile spell I would cast.  So until I learned to burn his reflect with a crappy nuke first , I got chew'ed on for a bit.  Either way it was fun.</p>

[Cocytus]

<p>Profession spells means spells that are unique to 1 subclass (Necro, illusionist, etc.)</p><p>This means it DOES NOT INCLUDE AAS. For clarity, hehe. AAs do not count as spells, they count as just...AAs. I believe even "spell aas" go to the abilities page anyway, no?</p><p>I've tested this out a number of ways. I used my SK to run these tests - first I did lifeburn. Lifeburn does not reflect. So AA spells do not count as profession spells, even if they are subclass specific. I tested lifetap and a variety of other necromancer spells. These <b>do</b> work. I killed the necro with his own lifetap, it was funny. Then I tested pet implosion, which also did not reflect, like the necro specific AAs.</p><p>Basically it has to be a spell and not an AA. I am not sure if this includes combat arts.</p>

[Spag]

<cite>Cocytus wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Basically it has to be a spell and not an AA. I am not sure if this includes combat arts.</p></blockquote><p> <i><img src="/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <img src="/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <img src="/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></i></p><p>For testing</p>

[Norrsken]

<cite>Spag wrote:</cite><blockquote>Ozgood@Vox wrote: <blockquote><p>So a Shaman now has a potential 8% chance to outright resist any spells and a Crusader can reflect one back (at 100%) once per minute?</p><p> If so, very interesting...very interesting indeed!</p></blockquote><p> On test on my warden, vs a Paladin, I had my Pack of wolves reflected on me multiple times.  I was like [I cannot control my vocabulary], it was quite interesting.  Since I was a melee spec'ed warden the pack of wolves was my only hostile spell I would cast.  So until I learned to burn his reflect with a crappy nuke first , I got chew'ed on for a bit.  Either way it was fun.</p></blockquote>Imagine what brigs think about havingt heir thugs attack them. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[sprogn]

<cite>Cocytus wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Profession spells means spells that are unique to 1 subclass (Necro, illusionist, etc.)</p><p>This means it DOES NOT INCLUDE AAS. For clarity, hehe. AAs do not count as spells, they count as just...AAs. I believe even "spell aas" go to the abilities page anyway, no?</p><p>I've tested this out a number of ways. I used my SK to run these tests - first I did lifeburn. Lifeburn does not reflect. So AA spells do not count as profession spells, even if they are subclass specific. I tested lifetap and a variety of other necromancer spells. These <b>do</b> work. I killed the necro with his own lifetap, it was funny. Then I tested pet implosion, which also did not reflect, like the necro specific AAs.</p><p>Basically it has to be a spell and not an AA. I am not sure if this includes combat arts.</p></blockquote>If I saw lifeburn reflect, I'd laugh my head off.

[zorros]

<cite>sprognak wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Cocytus wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Profession spells means spells that are unique to 1 subclass (Necro, illusionist, etc.)</p><p>This means it DOES NOT INCLUDE AAS. For clarity, hehe. AAs do not count as spells, they count as just...AAs. I believe even "spell aas" go to the abilities page anyway, no?</p><p>I've tested this out a number of ways. I used my SK to run these tests - first I did lifeburn. Lifeburn does not reflect. So AA spells do not count as profession spells, even if they are subclass specific. I tested lifetap and a variety of other necromancer spells. These <b>do</b> work. I killed the necro with his own lifetap, it was funny. Then I tested pet implosion, which also did not reflect, like the necro specific AAs.</p><p>Basically it has to be a spell and not an AA. I am not sure if this includes combat arts.</p></blockquote>If I saw lifeburn reflect, I'd laugh my head off. </blockquote>I have spellshield and it does the same thing reflects up to 3 profession and racial spells.Quite funny when a wiz fusions me.Its has a 85% chance to reflect.

[Mildavyn]

The best one is group on group PvP when you manage to reflect a warlock's spells <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />