The Grey Gi of Neriak, why NPC only.

[Novusod]

This is one of the nicest Gi graphics created by the art department to date yet no player items make use of this graphic. It is only being used by a few NPC's in Neriak. I looked all over Neriak and darklight woods for a player wearable version but it does not exist. I hope this graphic makes it into the loot tables somewhere either through a low level zone revamp or new high end content. <img src="http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e38/Novuso/EverQuest/Grey_Gi.jpg" border="0">

[Snowdonia]

Actually, the Deathfist Adept armor out of DFC (uses Blood Iron Ore) uses that graphic but is a dark red.

[Image_Vain]

I hear that SOE's DEV Team is making new armour with the skeleton revamp. With that, they might give us that kind of Gi.

[Novusod]

Snowdonia@Runnyeye wrote: <blockquote>Actually, the Deathfist Adept armor out of DFC (uses Blood Iron Ore) uses that graphic but is a dark red. </blockquote>Yes I know, I have that "red" Blood Hide Gi from DFC on my bruiser. Is what I am looking for is this grey one. There are a fair number of Gi's out there but most of them are not nearly as nice looking as this type of Gi. I hope that the next Gi added into the game is of this type used in Neriak and DFC and not the westler jumpsuit kind.

[Zarafein]

Thats realy nothing requiring the skeletal revamp, i hope we get a decent number of totaly new gis(not just color) after the revamp and at least one new type with RoK(the swifttails make a good occasion).

[Chay]

Snowdonia@Runnyeye wrote: <blockquote>Actually, the Deathfist Adept armor out of DFC (uses Blood Iron Ore) uses that graphic but is a dark red. </blockquote> This style of gi has been in the game since at least DOF, although that one is white. Gi of the Ashen Disciple Gi of the Dark Disciple Adept Blood Hide All use the same graphic. Would be nice if there were more gis. Would love the see the bruiser starter gi more.

[KerowynnKaotic]

<p>Quite frankly you might as well ask why ANY NPC outfit isn't available for PCs .. you'll get the same answer.  </p><p>"because". </p>

[Novusod]

The truth is lots of NPC clothing has been made available to players since release "because" the player base asked for it. We continueally ask for more so good stuff like this Gi does not slip through the cracks. The devs generally grant these type of requests because the hard part has already been done. The graphic already exists in the game. All they have to do is stick some stats on it and put it on some loot table or crafting recipie.

[KerowynnKaotic]

<cite>Novusod wrote:</cite><blockquote><b>The truth is lots of NPC clothing has been made available to players since release "because" the player base asked for it.</b> We continueally ask for more so good stuff like this Gi does not slip through the cracks. The devs generally grant these type of requests because the hard part has already been done. The graphic already exists in the game. All they have to do is stick some stats on it and put it on some loot table or crafting recipie. </blockquote><p> actually .. no. </p><p>True, your orignal request isn't that hard for them to do.   </p><p>Since there isn't anything "original" about that particular GI except the color.  The pattern IS available to PCs.  Which has been pointed out by several in this tread. </p><p>However, NPC clothing is by and away in much greater definition (having more unique characteristics) than PC clothing and it is SELDOM ever given to us.   I can only think of one instance where it was given to PCs ..... <i>and then taken away .. *still mourns her Blissful Awareness* .. </i></p><p>Take any NPC in DoF.  Their clothing is not only interesting to look at but also has a certain flavor of the expansion.   We will most likely never see anything for us like those outfits.   The closest we got was in the "pj" outfits and that really weird flynet helm.</p><p>How about the Vampires in Mistmore?   Or, the Orcs in DFC?   Or, any other zone with cool looking humanoid NPCs ... </p><p>The NPCs are designed with their clothing.  Their Clothing is the NPC.  </p><p>What HAS been given to us are approx 8 different patterns that have been tinted in a billion different ways.   The few "unique" non-raider graphics have been stolen from previously hard to get Faction Clothing and given to Tailors.</p><p>IE: RandomDev (notice i didn't say randomARTdev) creating a new zone and wants to load it up with "new" armor drops or even NPCs to do certain tasks .. </p><p>s/he goes into a dbase and selects from the following ... </p><ul><li>1 leather</li><li>2 gi</li><li>1 robe</li><li>1 vest/bloomer</li><li>1 fancy plate</li><li>1 plain plate</li><li>1 chain</li></ul><p>(all of which can be further divided down to their core make up of 4 graphics)</p><p>Mix it up with Skirt/no Skirt.   </p><p>Pulls the file into a graphics program and plays with the color wheel till they find a shade they feel is "appropriate" </p><p>Save and load to system. </p><p>voilia.   PC (& "fodder" NPC) clothing in a nut shell. </p><p>Totally unique NPCs will be designed by the Art Department.  They will design the NPC from top to bottom.  Specific detail will be given to their outfits.  And, for some reason totally unknown to me .. the Art Department never makes a "pattern" out of that NPCs clothing.   They do however make a "pattern" out of the NPC.  So that it can be copied and used by any other Devs in the various other parts of Zone / Quest population.   Which is why there are little asian children running around in Neriak even though their parents are the standard boring Freeport Human graphic. </p><p>'Tis fascinating how SOE recycles items & mobs.   <img src="/smilies/1cfd6e2a9a2c0cf8e74b49b35e2e46c7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />   </p>

[Novusod]

I knew someone would eventually bring up DoF charactors. I would argue those arn't NPCs but mobs masquerading as NPCs. They are all attackable just like Orcs which are also mobs. They are completely different from PC models because PCs could never look like them, ever. They even have different faces, skin textures, bady shapes, ect. There is no option to create a DoF based human in PC charactor creation. What am talking about here is NPC clothing that is based on PC models not DoF or Orcs. You can create a PC that looks exactly like the NPCs in the above screenshot and you would be perfectly capable of wearing the grey Gi of Neriak if only it existed as loot. Maybe I should have stated that earlier in the OP. The original intent of the topic was just about the Gi specifically because there are not enough Gi's in the game and I would like to see a lot more and this one in particular since it already exists graphically. I too remember the old Blissful Awareness and the reason why it was taken away. The graphic was buggy and was known to cause some lag issues so it was removed for performance reasons and along with a bunch other stuff. But lets' not derail the topic any more than it already has.

[TheSpin]

While your talking about things npcs have that we don't....did you ever notice that many of the ogres in big bend have facial hair, yet it isn't an option at character creation to add it?  I'm talking original models btw.