Been awhile since i did artwork

[MercenaryOne]

This first one was from awhile ago but one of my favorites(from eq1 but i never submitted it) Completely done in pencil in about a 12 hour period. <img src="http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/6941/medievalsmall3tg.jpg" border="0"> This is my more recent work, i started it on my vacation a couple days ago its CryptAngel my SK on Permafrost, its far from finished and still needs to be cleaned up. Done in pencil, traced in ink, debating on which style to use, color pencil, pencil, or ink. About 1 hour of work. <img src="http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/3569/medievalbabesmall6xx.jpg" border="0">

[Image_Vain]

<img src="/smilies/1cfd6e2a9a2c0cf8e74b49b35e2e46c7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[wiire]

Its drawn well... but... the subject.... yeesh, you must be one booby deprived person..........

[MercenaryOne]

Nope not really, its just that most of my friends that i get to pose for me are like that. Im not one of those artists that can just pull complete pictures on the human anatomy out of my imagination, so I take pictures or have a friend pose and draw it.

[Image_Vain]

Cryptangel@Permafrost wrote: <blockquote>Nope not really, its just that most of my friends that i get to pose for me are like that. Im not one of those artists that can just pull complete pictures on the human anatomy out of my imagination, so I take pictures or have a friend pose and draw it. </blockquote> You need new friends.

[Emerix]

Very very very pretty ! Dont care for what the others say . its very pretty and well done .

[MercenaryOne]

Thank you, granted i will agree my taste is a little bit off the norm, but to each their own. Most of my art is actually pictures of cars, celebs and goth stuff. Rarely do I do portraits of people i know.

[Tain]

Kalyria@Antonia Bayle wrote: <blockquote>Very very very pretty ! Dont care for what the others say . its very pretty and well done .</blockquote><p> I agree.</p><p>There isn't anything wrong with enjoying the female body.</p>

[Jethal]

<cite>Tainda wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>There isn't anything wrong with enjoying the female body.</p></blockquote>Very nicely done I could make a crude joke about "enjoying the female body", but when it comes to art, i'm usually very serious.. I have found no other form more challenging, diverse and stunningly beautiful to study and <a href="http://www.kithicor.org/gallery/Jethal/darkelfgirl_bw.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">express artistically</a>. (warning - linked drawing is nude).  Man, I need to find the time to pick up my pencil again

[Sairiss]

<p>I'm a straight female artist who enjoys drawing the female form.  In my opinion the lines and curves and charcteristics of the female form are fun to draw and I love making a beautiful thing more beautiful.  I think that your subjects are just fine and the artwork you have displayed here is very nice.  Anyone who criticizes is either repressed or intimidated by your talent.</p>

[wiire]

I think this person has good talent, and when I sketch females of course I draw breasts, but the ones in these pics are HUGE. Im sorry, I've never seen a girl with natural [Removed for Content] that big. PS Jethal's linked sketch is good too, and the [Removed for Content] look natural <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Tain]

Auroz@Lucan DLere wrote: <blockquote>I think this person has good talent, and when I sketch females of course I draw breasts, but the ones in these pics are HUGE. Im sorry, I've never seen a girl with natural [Removed for Content] that big. PS Jethal's linked sketch is good too, and the [Removed for Content] look natural <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></blockquote> They don't seem that big to me.  And yes, I am female.

[sfarugger]

<p>I think they are fabulous!  I wish I had that kind of talent!</p><p>Great Job!!!</p>

[Pantoffelsluiper]

<p><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman">Beautifully done! </span></p><p><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Times New Roman">*hides her crude sketches she used to call art*</span></p>

[KerowynnKaotic]

Auroz@Lucan DLere wrote: <blockquote>I think this person has good talent, and when I sketch females of course I draw breasts, but the ones in these pics are HUGE. <b>Im sorry, I've never seen a girl with natural [Removed for Content] that big</b>. PS Jethal's linked sketch is good too, and the [Removed for Content] look natural <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></blockquote><p>eh .. you don't get out much then do you .. </p><p>The Breasts in the pictures are proportional to the body size.   </p><p>The 1st picture's breasts seems to be an older woman (@ 35-40) and that's the way heavy breasts lay down without support.   And, that particular top isn't giving support, just coverage.  Kinda like a bathing suit top without wires.  (the OP said s/he bases their drawings on real people)  (apologies if the model was under 30 .. but the picture gives off an older woman vibe <img src="/smilies/499fd50bc713bfcdf2ab5a23c00c2d62.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  )</p><p>Picture #2 .. hard to guess age without shading .. but anyone with SHO or HBO wouldn't really think anything is wrong with her.   Yes, she could have had her breasts augmented but they could also be 100% natural.  Sure, #2 is <b>abit</b> off since "natural" breats tend to be in line with hip size (Breasts are FAT.  Women generally lose weight in their breasts 1st) but Breasts come in all sizes so they <b>are 100%</b> possible. </p><p>in otherwords .. very nicely done portraits. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Image_Vain]

Why big breasts?<img src="/smilies/136dd33cba83140c7ce38db096d05aed.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[MercenaryOne]

1st model is an old friend of my current gf. Shes 31. The 2nd is an old high school mate we used to pose for each other in art class, shes 24. Most of my friends(female that is) are pretty well endowed, I didnt pick em that way, we just grew up together. (except 1, she recently had implants, her excuse was they werent proportionate enough, I dont beleive her)  My current GF is well endowed too. Why big breasts? Look at most comic books, anime, artwork, most of them are portrayed that way. Its like when i draw males, I dont draw the mediocre built or skinny guys, I make it so that their muscles are ripping to the point they will explode, but proportionate. My artwork influences include, Boris Vallejo, Simon Bisley, Luis Royo, Gabriel Guzman, Brian Pulido, Dorian Cleavenger, Brom and many other fantasy artists. Other artists of Lady Death, Ghost Rider, Vampirella comics.

[Jethal]

Cryptangel@Permafrost wrote: <blockquote>1st model is an old friend of my current gf. Shes 31. The 2nd is an old high school mate we used to pose for each other in art class, shes 24. Most of my friends(female that is) are pretty well endowed, I didnt pick em that way, we just grew up together. (except 1, she recently had implants, her excuse was they werent proportionate enough, I dont beleive her)  My current GF is well endowed too. Why big breasts? Look at most comic books, anime, artwork, most of them are portrayed that way. Its like when i draw males, I dont draw the mediocre built or skinny guys, I make it so that their muscles are ripping to the point they will explode, but proportionate. My artwork influences include, Boris Vallejo, Simon Bisley, Luis Royo, Gabriel Guzman, Brian Pulido, Dorian Cleavenger, Brom and many other fantasy artists. Other artists of Lady Death, Ghost Rider, Vampirella comics. </blockquote>They're both great, and the 2nd pic is what I call "fantasy realistic" I had a close friend that used to model for me, I miss those days. I remember the first time she posed nude.. I didnt know she was gonna do it.  I left the room to grab us a drink and I came back to her lying nude on my bed..  NOW.. this is a girl that I hadn't slept with BUT was the object of my infatuation all throughout high school.  She said my face turned as red as my shirt - still one of the best sketches I've done to date.. she's asked me not to post it and i'll respect her wishes.

[valkry]

Sorry, but have you guys who are wondering about the size of the [Removed for Content] played EQ2 lately?...geez even my Gnome has at least a solid B-cup. My High Elf must be a D cup & the Human and Barb girls are packing even more (please, please use the SOGA models for Human girlies...so they can finally get bras with some decent support). I thought the work was great & saw no problem w/ the shape of the girls. I'm a straight girl myself (over 40 so my figure is now a bit more pic one then pic 2) but after 12 years in military, I've probably seen far to many women in stages of undress (even if you try not to look...when you are living with 3 of you stacked in a 6'x7'x2 1/2' area, you WILL see other girls.) I would expect a more 'slender' build for a DE or Gnome, but I get the idea you were drawing one of the smaller races.

[Image_Vain]

Better enjoy it while they are young. I don't like BB women, but thats just me.

[Tain]

<cite>Image_Vain wrote:</cite><blockquote>Better enjoy it while they are young. I don't like BB women, but thats just me. </blockquote><p> What's BB?</p><p><insert something snarky I had to erase cause it would hurt feelings></p>

[Bithnar]

<cite>Image_Vain wrote:</cite><blockquote>Better enjoy it while they are young. I don't like BB women, but thats just me. </blockquote> It shouldn't matter what size a woman's breasts are, its what beats beneth them that does.

[Tain]

<cite>Bithnar wrote:</cite><blockquote> It shouldn't matter what size a woman's breasts are, its what beats beneth them that does.</blockquote> Hehehe gotta love ya Bith

[Kaitar]

<p>You've talent, but I can't say I like the style or the skimpy subject matter. That's my opinion, but I don't deny you've talent.</p><p>On the subject of SUPERBEAUTIFULHUGEBEWBS! Eh. What's wrong with drawing a less-than-busty and normal looking type character? You know, being from an RP server, you read all these descriptions of all these "beautiful" or "studly" people , as if you're supposed to be impressed. But let me say this; if everyone in the world is "beautiful" then it ceases to be exotic and beautiful because...well, everyone looks that way.</p><p>I, myself, am playing one heck of a scarred up Iksar guy who is NOT studly even by Iksar standards (he's rather lean...and, well, his face is a mess of scars)  a "built like a board" Tier'Dal bruiser girl with very plain features  (athletic females often lose much of their body fat and thusly have less curves, 'tis fact. ) and a pretty-but-not-supermodel high elf paladin I've just started. And Dsarisz, who doesn't count because he's an idiot and dresses entirely in red armor to match his red scales (which looks horrible and gaudy, but very funny ). </p><p>Hooray for ugly and normal people in art and RP! /end de-rail</p><p>So, as I said... respect the fact you can draw, don't much care for what you draw however. </p>

[Eybietie]

you got talent. don´t listen to image vain as he just tries to get his post count up. btw drawing by myself i know in fact that female breasts are hard to draw. i mean really - i got real problems drawing them. they turn out different sized - too big - too small. even if you can´t draw, try it out. it´s a hard thing to do.

[Image_Vain]

Shadexxx@Nagafen wrote: <blockquote>you got talent. don´t listen to image vain as he just tries to get his post count up. <span style="color: #00ccff"> - True</span> btw drawing by myself i know in fact that female breasts are hard to draw. <span style="color: #00ccff">- Also True </span> i mean really - i got real problems drawing them. they turn out different sized - too big - too small. even if you can´t draw, try it out. it´s a hard thing to do.</blockquote>

[Valarye]

<p>Drawing the female form is fun and you have done it beautifully.  Yes, the breasts are big, but in no way are they disproportionate.  </p><p>In response to Kaitar...  according to your post, you think women with larger breasts are abnormal (at least that is the vibe I get when you say draw "normal looking&quot<img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.  I am female and I am larger than average in the chest area.  Am I not considered normal?</p>

[Kaitar]

<cite>Valarye wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Drawing the female form is fun and you have done it beautifully.  Yes, the breasts are big, but in no way are they disproportionate.  </p><p>In response to Kaitar...  according to your post, you think women with larger breasts are abnormal (at least that is the vibe I get when you say draw "normal looking"<img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.  I am female and I am larger than average in the chest area.  Am I not considered normal?</p></blockquote><p> That wasn't what I said at all. What I was referring to is it seems ALL artwork is always some very busty woman with perfect features, or some super-studly guy with rippling muscles and a strong jaw. I never said large breasts were abnormal, only...it'd be nice to see something other than that type in artwork once in a while...more "average". Like or not, most women do not have Size D breasts and a 24 inch waist. Those that do aren't "abnormal" or "freakish", but your typical woman is not built like that. And heck, as I said....where are the ugly characters? I usually find them a LOT more interesting and thought out than your usual super-model beautiful busty women or your Fabio-romance-cover men.</p><p>Please do not assume that when I say if everyone in the world looked "beautiful with perfect features" they'd no longer be considered exotic because everyone looks like them = larger than average breasts are freakish. That was not what I was implying -at all -</p>

[Scottishla]

Auroz@Lucan DLere wrote: <blockquote>Its drawn well... but... the subject.... yeesh, you must be one booby deprived person..........</blockquote><p>I'm guessing this attitude is why we are forced to look so horrible in the game.  My main is a female Barbarian paladin and everytime I see that pre-launch video of what I was SUPPOSED to look like it infuriates me.  I have no idea why SOE suddenly decided that any and all visible skin was so horrible, but please bring the "fantasy" back to my fantasy game.  </p><p>Look at their own box art......[Removed for Content] I wish we could actually look like that.  Apparently, Antonia Bayle has some sort of copyright on sexy armor and no one else is allowed to have any.  Maybe she is the jealous type and is afraid some of us might look better than her.  The only gear in EQ2 I have seen that is even remotely appealing is the monk/bruiser Gi's.  Of course, those are so hard to come by with any decent stats, sadly most of us who play monks/bruiser spend most of our time looking like a scout.  Ya know that pretty DoF status dress (the worthless one except to look pretty).....That's the sort of gear I expect to see mages wearing!  Just because my main wields a sword and cracks heads open at will, doesn't mean she has to look like a soup can to do it.  Maybe SOE hired to many feminist artists....But personally, I say take the PC (political correctness) out of my game and let me shine <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  </p>

[Tain]

<cite>Scottishlass wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I'm guessing this attitude is why we are forced to look so horrible in the game.  My main is a female Barbarian paladin and everytime I see that pre-launch video of what I was SUPPOSED to look like it infuriates me.  I have no idea why SOE suddenly decided that any and all visible skin was so horrible, but please bring the "fantasy" back to my fantasy game.  </p><p>Look at their own box art......[I cannot control my vocabulary] I wish we could actually look like that.  Apparently, Antonia Bayle has some sort of copyright on sexy armor and no one else is allowed to have any.  Maybe she is the jealous type and is afraid some of us might look better than her.  The only gear in EQ2 I have seen that is even remotely appealing is the monk/bruiser Gi's.  Of course, those are so hard to come by with any decent stats, sadly most of us who play monks/bruiser spend most of our time looking like a scout.  Ya know that pretty DoF status dress (the worthless one except to look pretty).....That's the sort of gear I expect to see mages wearing!  Just because my main wields a sword and cracks heads open at will, doesn't mean she has to look like a soup can to do it.  Maybe SOE hired to many feminist artists....But personally, I say take the PC (political correctness) out of my game and let me shine <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  </p></blockquote><p>Here Here!!</p><p>I see my average looking butt all day.  When I play a game I want to be smokin hot!  It IS fantasy after all. </p>

[Sairiss]

<p>This is a fantasy game so you are going to have fantasy artists sharing thier artwork.</p><p>Have any of you read a comic book or bought a fantasy poster ever? (or even seen one?)  How about the original EQ artwork?  It's typical to have scantily clad women AND men.  The men aren't skinny and pale, they are ripped...  I mean muscles ripping thier own muscles.  The women will have larger breasts than you will be comfortable with and waistlines that the typical human female needs a super-cincher corset to get.</p><p>The operative word is "Fantasy".   Beautiful images without realism but with a realistic feel.  </p><p>Overall, I think that if you like someone's artwork say so.  If you don't, then look at it once and walk away.   Artists place thier work here to share with the community because they are proud of what they have done.</p><p>An artists work is THIER work to share, not something they drew/painted/sculpted specifically to please one small group of people.  They could draw the breasts smaller, but they won't because it's thier artwork.   All the "why couldn't you... or did you have to's" are selfish IMO and I personally see it as a way to bring the artist down.  </p><p>If you're offended by large breasted women in your fantasy artwork, don't go visit dorainart.com and don't read Lady Death and close your eyes when you buy your next RPG there are likely inhumanly large breasts there too etc...</p><p>Enough harping on the size of the subject's breasts and how about focusing on the ARTWORK and the TALENT.</p><p>Yeah its a bit of a rant, but with the negativity that people display when one wishes to share something that made them happy (and it's not hurting anyone who knows how to use the browser's back button) I wish there were more constructive criticism abound.  Any of you who are artists, would understand that it's a personal thing when an artists shares thier work with thier community.  Some are discouraged from sharing at all and I don't blame them.</p>

[Kaitar]

Sairiss@Najena wrote: <blockquote><p>This is a fantasy game so you are going to have fantasy artists sharing thier artwork.</p><p>Have any of you read a comic book or bought a fantasy poster ever? (or even seen one?)  How about the original EQ artwork?  It's typical to have scantily clad women AND men.  The men aren't skinny and pale, they are ripped...  I mean muscles ripping thier own muscles.  The women will have larger breasts than you will be comfortable with and waistlines that the typical human female needs a super-cincher corset to get.</p><p>The operative word is "Fantasy".   Beautiful images without realism but with a realistic feel.  </p><p>Overall, I think that if you like someone's artwork say so.  If you don't, then look at it once and walk away.   Artists place thier work here to share with the community because they are proud of what they have done.</p><p>An artists work is THIER work to share, not something they drew/painted/sculpted specifically to please one small group of people.  They could draw the breasts smaller, but they won't because it's thier artwork.   All the "why couldn't you... or did you have to's" are selfish IMO and I personally see it as a way to bring the artist down.  </p><p>If you're offended by large breasted women in your fantasy artwork, don't go visit dorainart.com and don't read Lady Death and close your eyes when you buy your next RPG there are likely inhumanly large breasts there too etc...</p><p>Enough harping on the size of the subject's breasts and how about focusing on the ARTWORK and the TALENT.</p><p>Yeah its a bit of a rant, but with the negativity that people display when one wishes to share something that made them happy (and it's not hurting anyone who knows how to use the browser's back button) I wish there were more constructive criticism abound.  Any of you who are artists, would understand that it's a personal thing when an artists shares thier work with thier community.  Some are discouraged from sharing at all and I don't blame them.</p></blockquote><p>First of all, everyone is entitled to their opinion. Just because it's fantasy doesn't mean it HAS to contain ripply men and huge breasted women. That's like saying all fantasy novels have to have the poor orphan/underdog as the hero. Thank GOD for GRRM and there ARE fantasy artists out there who don't stick with the same-old genre. There is no rule on the forum saying that people HAVE TO like all the artwork posted here. As I said before, the guy has talent, I just don't care for his style or subject matter. So what? Not everyone likes my style, but I don't get offended. Artwork ISN'T meant to please everyone all the time, but by saying that people who have a critisism of that artwork are being selfish...is a bit ignorant. </p><p>And I like my fantasy with some true-to-life grit to it. That means not everyone is beautiful and buxom and muscled. That's just me but it is my right to have that opinion and to enjoy artwork (and fantasy novels, etc) that do not always feature such. Again, this is why I'm so thankful we have authors out there like George R.R. and artists who aren't afraid to break out of the traditional mold of "if it's fantasy, it has to be beautiful and mystical". </p>

[MercenaryOne]

I agree with the bringing the artist down thing, granted its your opinion but no degrading off the artist is needed, post your opinions of the artwork, not that the artists is a booby deprived person or pervert of some sort. Anyways, I want to thank you all for the compliments on my work, due to a request by a friend, im going to be starting a troll plate character(Male) and that will be my next subject of art once i get the feel or in the groove for more art.

[Tain]

<cite>Kaitar wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>First of all, everyone is entitled to their opinion. </p></blockquote> Everyone IS entitled to their own opinions but like my mommy always said.. *sing songy voice* "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all!" 

[Kaitar]

<cite>Tainda wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Kaitar wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>First of all, everyone is entitled to their opinion. </p></blockquote> Everyone IS entitled to their own opinions but like my mommy always said.. *sing songy voice* "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all!"  </blockquote><p> Sorry, I don't believe I came across as personally attacking the artist. The "don't say anything if it can't be nice" works fine for school kids, but as adults, I like to think it's possible to disagree without flaming. I did not call the artist a pervert or anything like that. He's a right to draw what he wants as he sees fit. I have a right not to like it and say "Not my taste, sorry". I also have a right to say "I really like it when fantasy artists have less-than-beautiful and even ugly heroes/heroine/villians in there artwork".  Please point out where I have not been "nice" to the OP or personally accused him of being anything, and I will admit I'm wrong. </p><p>However <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I haven't flamed him one bit. I just disagree with his taste and style of art. We're old enough to take a few "I don't like its" I hope, without reverting to "if you don't have anything nice to say..." sing-song that was fine in the 5th grade but not for adults who should be able to have a debate without it being a flame war. ANY artist/writer/etc who posts work had better be -ready- for some critisism of their work, both on something as silly as game forums to editors/publishers/etc, who will say in much harsher terms than I have what they don't "like" about it.</p>

[Tain]

<cite>Kaitar wrote:</cite><blockquote><p> Sorry, I don't believe I came across as personally attacking the artist. The "don't say anything if it can't be nice" works fine for school kids, but as adults, I like to think it's possible to disagree without flaming. I did not call the artist a pervert or anything like that. He's a right to draw what he wants as he sees fit. I have a right not to like it and say "Not my taste, sorry". I also have a right to say "I really like it when fantasy artists have less-than-beautiful and even ugly heroes/heroine/villians in there artwork".  Please point out where I have not been "nice" to the OP or personally accused him of being anything, and I will admit I'm wrong. </p><p>However <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I haven't flamed him one bit. I just disagree with his taste and style of art. We're old enough to take a few "I don't like its" I hope, without reverting to "if you don't have anything nice to say..." sing-song that was fine in the 5th grade but not for adults who should be able to have a debate without it being a flame war. ANY artist/writer/etc who posts work had better be -ready- for some critisism of their work, both on something as silly as game forums to editors/publishers/etc, who will say in much harsher terms than I have what they don't "like" about it.</p></blockquote><p>I don't think anyone was meaning you.</p><p>Edit: Sorry got interrupted.  </p><p>We were meaning the two on the first page. </p>