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jzakhar
06-21-2007, 12:20 AM
aITEM -92559247 -1813412128:Soulfire Hammer/a in summary its a griz mace and added to the dmg proc is a 300 hp heal.. because you know us healers really needed an offensive proc that healed us for dirt. its a really easy quest so i never expected great rewards.. but an upgrade (slight) or a on par weapon to my godking hammer with a nice graphic would have been great.. [I cannot control my vocabulary] id be happy if when I finished you let me exchange my godking weapon for an item with the same stats/proc as the godking and the graphic of the reward hammer. anyway, thanks for saving a lot of us the time collecting the statues. there is no reason to, just get the griz weapon.

Mabes
06-21-2007, 10:26 AM
<p>Well, the best part about the new weapon, is the +75 to heals, and since it's not labeled ornate, you can add another +40 to heals adornment on it.  I'd take +115 to heals over flowing thought any day, though usually have 2 mana regen classes in group which helps.</p><p>However, I do agree with you, that proc is doody, first off it's on spell attacks, and yeah why would a priest want a lifetap proc.  I think it should either be made a powertap, or be made so that it can proc on successful attacks, rather than just offensive spells.</p>

Arteen
06-21-2007, 10:50 AM
Anyone seen the upgrade you get after the optinal raid?

Bright_Morn
06-21-2007, 11:40 AM
<img src="http://eq2flames.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=200&d=1182304158" border="0"> That should show all of them, at least how they were a few days ago.

thebunny
06-21-2007, 12:07 PM
<cite>Arteen wrote:</cite><blockquote>Anyone seen the upgrade you get after the optinal raid?</blockquote>According to <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=367690" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=367690</a>, the Soulfire Hammer is the fabled reward.

Mabes
06-21-2007, 12:09 PM
Though, all of this is still on test, anything could change before it hits live, I would have posted this in the testing feedback section of the forum rather than here.  But if any devs read this, the healer item proc isn't very desirable by healers.  Would also love it if they changed it to +7 focus instead of +7 ministration, as ministration is pretty much useless, but that may be too hopeful of thinking.

AnAnimatedcorpse
06-21-2007, 12:19 PM
<cite>thebunny wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Arteen wrote:</cite><blockquote>Anyone seen the upgrade you get after the optinal raid?</blockquote>According to <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=367690" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=367690</a>, the Soulfire Hammer is the fabled reward.</blockquote><p>Damage-rating wise, those are all very impressive weapons! I wonder if the final graphic of those items will look just like the lucanic items, but with a fiery particle effect? </p>

Uilamin
06-21-2007, 12:57 PM
Well changes that should be done to the healer healer item. A) Change the effect from on hostile spell to on successful attack (as 3 priests are more meele oriented than spell oriented).  Then either     change the heal to a power drain/regen proc     or     add FT to the item In that case the optimal change would be on all attacks with power restore. B) Actually make it a healer it and make the proc Godking-ish.  Make it something like on all beneficial spells a chance to heal target for x amount, and then maybe restore x power to the caster.

jzakhar
06-21-2007, 01:09 PM
<p>eh I know speaking for myself that unless it has a proc similar to the godking (dont care about FT) i wont be using it.. a free heal proc (that can crit) just cant be passed up.. they can keep making epic rewards all they want. I just dont see too many raid healers not using the GK hammer.. Who would give up a free 800-1600 heal ?</p><p> the priest claymore reward was a offhand/ranged item, ever wonder why it wasnt a weapon like the majority of teh rest? the dev's knew unless they upgraded the god king it wouldnt ever be used... this is no different. </p><p> me personally: </p><p>I dont need an on proc dmg kicker, or an on proc power drain.. if you plan to push new epic weapons and you actually give a rats [Removed for Content] weather we use them, then put a god king effect like proc on them..</p>

Kala Asuras
06-21-2007, 02:59 PM
Wasn't seeing Bright Morn's pic so thought I'd try to put up another.  Here you go Arteen.  Not sure what happened to the legendary 2hander, this is all I was able to find. <img src="http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/5210/soulfiresgs0.jpg" border="0">

Vadja
06-21-2007, 03:56 PM
<p>The +75 to heals sounds quite good, it means you can get to over +200 to heals with fairly common adornments. My heals, as a fury, average about 1.5 seconds cast time, so that gives +100hp or thereabouts to my direct heals (and an equivalent to HoTs over the duration).</p><p>Having 100 extra HP on my heals is actually quite an upgrade, if you look at Nature's Elixir, the fury main single heal with a 1.5 sec cast:</p><p>Ad3=              932-1104</p><p>Ad3+100hp= 1032-1204</p><p>M1=               1066-1302</p><p>M1+100hp=   1166-1402</p><p>So having +200 to heals is a sort of half-way house between spell qualities and you get it on every heal, not bad IMO.</p>

Sinful One
06-21-2007, 09:42 PM
wait theres... no dual wield version? or a ranged version? <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> rangers get the shaft

Kala Asuras
06-22-2007, 12:17 AM
There will not be any DW in the game soon.  Check the Test update notes from the 12th.  We will be able to wield two one hand weapons in exchange for an increased delay penalty.  The DW in the game will all be converted to one handers.

TerriBlades
06-22-2007, 01:03 AM
Sinful One wrote: <blockquote>wait theres... no dual wield version? or a ranged version? <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> rangers get the shaft</blockquote><p>Being a ranger myself, I can understand you feeling slighted by this, but what I cant stand is hearing "omgz rangers got shafted again". There has never been an epic weapon quest thats given a bow as a reward, did you really think this would be any different? Here's hoping that when RoK launches, and they design an epic for 24 classes, we get a bow as a reward.</p><p>As far as your DW question goes... are you living under a rock? Or did  you not notice there is a post somewhere around here detailing how DW weapons are being converted to 1hders that you can DW. This is why you dont see a DW version, because they are being removed from the game. These changes have not made it over to the PvP Test server, but I believe over there the Sabre is still a DW Rapier. So theres your DW for ya.</p>

VizP
06-22-2007, 09:16 AM
Out of itnerest does anyone know if +heal effects also affect wards or only heals? As a defiler my main healing is via wards obviously so its a question of whether they will make the wards stronger?

Triste-Lune
06-22-2007, 10:08 AM
<cite>TerriBlades wrote:</cite><blockquote>Sinful One wrote: <blockquote>wait theres... no dual wield version? or a ranged version? <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> rangers get the shaft</blockquote><p>Being a ranger myself, I can understand you feeling slighted by this, but what I cant stand is hearing "omgz rangers got shafted again". There has never been an epic weapon quest thats given a bow as a reward, did you really think this would be any different? Here's hoping that when RoK launches, and they design an epic for 24 classes, we get a bow as a reward.</p><p>As far as your DW question goes... are you living under a rock? Or did  you not notice there is a post somewhere around here detailing how DW weapons are being converted to 1hders that you can DW. This is why you dont see a DW version, because they are being removed from the game. These changes have not made it over to the PvP Test server, but I believe over there the Sabre is still a DW Rapier. So theres your DW for ya.</p></blockquote> ranger will get an epic quiver with 2 more slot than the rare crafted quiver.

Judist
06-22-2007, 10:55 AM
<cite>VizP wrote:</cite><blockquote>Out of itnerest does anyone know if +heal effects also affect wards or only heals? As a defiler my main healing is via wards obviously so its a question of whether they will make the wards stronger? </blockquote>Yup, wards too.

mikevw30
06-23-2007, 05:56 PM
i defentally agree with the post's title....the wep is [Removed for Content] compaired to say...the 1h wep from phh....and avatar of growth.......the proc is [Removed for Content]....upgraded griz 4tl.....what a freaking joke.....im just hoping that that is the pvp version....and if is the pvp version....then i would like to see the pve wep....WTB heal proc or something creative yet pownage from soe...maybe a +healing %....that cant be offed by a cure....or +healing % for like 10 seconds....

TerriBlades
06-23-2007, 07:03 PM
<cite>Triste-Lune wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>TerriBlades wrote:</cite><blockquote>Sinful One wrote: <blockquote>wait theres... no dual wield version? or a ranged version? <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> rangers get the shaft</blockquote><p>Being a ranger myself, I can understand you feeling slighted by this, but what I cant stand is hearing "omgz rangers got shafted again". There has never been an epic weapon quest thats given a bow as a reward, did you really think this would be any different? Here's hoping that when RoK launches, and they design an epic for 24 classes, we get a bow as a reward.</p><p>As far as your DW question goes... are you living under a rock? Or did  you not notice there is a post somewhere around here detailing how DW weapons are being converted to 1hders that you can DW. This is why you dont see a DW version, because they are being removed from the game. These changes have not made it over to the PvP Test server, but I believe over there the Sabre is still a DW Rapier. So theres your DW for ya.</p></blockquote> ranger will get an epic quiver with 2 more slot than the rare crafted quiver.</blockquote> Thats not funny... possibly very true... but not funny! <img src="/smilies/c30b4198e0907b23b8246bdd52aa1c3c.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Methriln
06-23-2007, 08:46 PM
of course weapon is gonna be crappy. 3 quests long...i mean come on. It shouldnt be on par with contested loot.

mikevw30
06-24-2007, 12:36 PM
i think it sould be good....but....not at good as say avatar loots(growth wep).....about equal to the PHH wep....yet something that actually says healer not just druid ><....i mean seriously....how many  raid healers do u see runing around with a dang griz wep equiped?

Hellswrath
06-30-2007, 02:21 AM
<cite>Methriln wrote:</cite><blockquote>of course weapon is gonna be crappy. 3 quests long...i mean come on. It shouldnt be on par with contested loot. </blockquote><p>It is way longer than 3 quests.  Also, very few of them are short.  But I will agree that they don't get difficult until the end.  Just very time consuming.  The reward shown is also for the raid upgraded version.  Considering the gear needed to be able to tackle the new raid zone, which is supposed to be as hard as EH, this is a joke of a reward.  That applies to all classes.</p>

Sinful One
06-30-2007, 08:00 AM
i forgot that they are changing it =