missing a spell

[Knomi]

<p>Hey guys and gals,</p><p>Help me out here....  I am missing a spell and don't know what it is.  There is a spell that has "horizontal" ice spikes that I've seen other wizards use.  I, to my knowledge, do not have this spell.  What is it?</p>

[JohnDoe058]

<p>Ice Flame, a lvl 35 spell from Bloodlines pack.  It has no upgrades.</p><p>Dmg + short-term snare...very short cast range.</p><p>If you're already lvl 50+, you might not even bother with it...it's [Removed for Content] by then.  I removed it from my hotbar a very long time ago.</p>

[Force Weaver]

If it had an upgrade it would still occupy space on my hotbar at 70.

[JohnDoe058]

Force Weaver wrote: <blockquote>If it had an upgrade it would still occupy space on my hotbar at 70.</blockquote><p>If "if"'s and "but"'s were candy and nuts, we'd all be fat and happy lol</p><p>Yeah, I'd also like to see an upgrade...but as a wizard, I expect nothing good from SoE.  Well ok, the change to KoS trees a while back, that made end-line abilities only cost 2 points, helped me a somewhat.  But other than that, when is the last time that something good ever happened to wizards?  It's been nerf, nerf, nerf, to an already underpowered class.</p><p>And I'm not sry for being off-topic lol.  This one is covered now.</p>

[SacDaddy420]

call me [I cannot control my vocabulary] crazy but I still have Ice Flame on my hotbar.   It is however, VERY situational.  It's not a spell that you really wanna work into your regular rotation for good dps.   But it IS a spell that looks cool, lol Just ask a sage to make it for you man.  you dont need bloodlines for it

[Mareth]

I use it when nothing else is up, as I have an aversion to sunstrike. And I got a comment regarding it from Sac stuck in my head, which alas I can't repeat here due to foul language <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[JohnDoe058]

<p>Mareth, u do know that it's dmg won't make a drop of pee's worth of difference, at lvl 70?  You might be better off auto-attacking...or just BORING the mob to death<img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Did Sunstrike traumatize you as a child?  It's ok, you can tell us...where did it touch you?  Did it touch your wang?  You really should tell on people when they touch you there (except for guildies <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />).</p><p>I'm sorry lol...hope u don't mind the banter.</p>

[SacDaddy420]

Spikes to the @#$% Face pwns Sunstrike dude

[Nastharl]

Sunstrike for me hits 729-1326 (ad3). Ice spikes hits GARUNTEED 1102. Ice spikes > Sunstrike at 57 at least.

[JohnDoe058]

<p>Mmmkay.  At lvl 70, with 658 int, with +120 spell dmg, gettin 836-1470 with Sunstrike, and 1236 with Ice Flame, both at Adept III.</p><p>So at 70, SS does slightly less dmg, BUT costs 83 power, vs. 118 for IF.  Also has way more range.</p><p>So, i guess it's kind of a toss-up.  They're both puke, lol.</p>

[Nastharl]

well i DID say 57 <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[bunx]

Yeah, Ice Flame still occupies a slot on my hotbars, and i do still use it when recasts on my better dps spells are down. However, here is something interesting i noticed. I beta-buffed a wizard on pvp test, and had all his spells mastered out. I received a level 53 spell called "Glacial Flame" (no, not the mystic spell called Glacial Flames before someone makes some [I cannot control my vocabulary] comment =P). Anyway, it was a direct upgrade to our level 35 bloodlines spell. I then also beta-buffed a coercer (the other toon i play), to check if his bloodlines spell had also received an upgrade - and i found a level 53 spell called "Mana Cover", which was a direct upgrade to the level 35 "Mana Cloak". So, is it worth speculating that our level 35 bloodlines spells will be receiving an upgrade? I havent seen anything in the test notes.

[slippery]

If the upgrade goes through it moves up quite a bit in the dps per casting time chain.