Twink much??

[Wafflemao]

<p>Twinks are a lot like SUVs...used to make up for something tiny. </p>

[Eybietie]

bitter much?

[Wafflemao]

Actually no..I believe in a more pure playstyle. I don't like to completely strip the challenge out of the game because of my insecurities <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Eybietie]

so what´s this thread for?

[Wafflemao]

<p>It's just for you <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p> So you have something to do.</p>

[Eybietie]

awww <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> much E <3 for you then.

[Fonrian]

This thread is crawling with your insecurities tbh.

[Wafflemao]

<p>Crawling in my skin???</p><p>Edit: </p><p>PS: Get out of Shadexxx's thread. And I see what u did thurr with the turning things around. Very clever.</p>

[CresentBlade]

Splinter@Nagafen wrote: <blockquote>This thread is crawling with your insecurities tbh. </blockquote>Why such a big boat for such a little guy then ehhhhhhhhhhhhh? <img src="/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Eybietie]

Wafflemao@Vox wrote: <blockquote><p>Crawling in my skin???</p><p>Edit: </p><p>PS: Get out of Shadexxx's thread. And I see what u did thurr with the turning things around. Very clever.</p></blockquote>friends like you can call me shade tbh <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Netzoko]

This thread delivers.

[Wafflemao]

<p>I know.</p><p> Shade check your PMs ^_^</p>

[orehn]

<cite>CresentBlade wrote:</cite><blockquote>Splinter@Nagafen wrote: <blockquote>This thread is crawling with your insecurities tbh. </blockquote>Why such a big boat for such a little guy then ehhhhhhhhhhhhh? <img src="/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </blockquote>Actually, it looks like a dinghy, which is in fact a very small boat; sort of like the one Captain Jack Sparrow was on during the opening sequence of the first <i>Pirates of the Caribbean.</i> That's just my opinion though. =D

[Simera]

<p>How exactly do you twink in a game where gear and spells are level locked? Where you can only wear what Sony deems level appropriate armour at any step in the game? You can't equip anything before you're the right level, so...? Really, if with even the slightest application of time..doing quests and going through dungeons, anyone can have the best armor and spells at the lower levels, and I do mean ANYONE, how in God's name do people think its even possible to twink? </p><p>Twinking was an eq1 thing..it was giving high level armor that you could only get with a high level character...to low level alts. It was giving an alt gear that was not available to the average lowbie. It was removed from eq2. </p>

[rvbarton]

Awesome@Nagafen wrote: <blockquote><p>CresentBlade wrote:</p><p> Actually, it looks like a dinghy, </p></blockquote><p> heh heh heh, he said Dinghy.  heh heh heh.</p><p>/slap "Shaddup, Beavis"</p>

[Roald]

Shadexxx@Nagafen wrote: <blockquote>awww <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> much E <3 for you then.</blockquote><p>Speaking of E <3, was it you that killed my inquis twice yesterday while i was qesting? <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </p>

[Eybietie]

arg - yes it was me i have to admit. but we quested there. we killed you once than went on doing our quests and after 30 minutes you have been of recent list and popped back up on track again.... but you wanted to gank that poor lvl 9 exiled before we engaged you the second time ^^ and no at lvl 13 i can´t beat you solo tbh. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> but the climbable wall thing was so dam funny ( hail uborr, hail uborr --> knockback peeeeeewwwww ^^ )

[WasFycksir]

<p>The only people who complain about twinking are the ones that lack the ambition to do it themselves.</p><p>Try working for what you want instead of whining for a change.</p>

[Greeen-_-Ranger]

<cite>CresentBlade wrote:</cite><blockquote>Splinter@Nagafen wrote: <blockquote>This thread is crawling with your insecurities tbh. </blockquote>Why such a big boat for such a little guy then ehhhhhhhhhhhhh? <img src="/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </blockquote> Did you see his guild tag you sexy ogre you?  It's big so he can have his BFF's on board!  He is waving to invite them in!  Sheesh...L2IP (interpret pictures mwah haha splawesome!)

[Kyralis]

Safia@Nagafen wrote: <blockquote><p>How exactly do you twink in a game where gear and spells are level locked? Where you can only wear what Sony deems level appropriate armour at any step in the game? You can't equip anything before you're the right level, so...? Really, if with even the slightest application of time..doing quests and going through dungeons, anyone can have the best armor and spells at the lower levels, and I do mean ANYONE, how in God's name do people think its even possible to twink? </p><p>Twinking was an eq1 thing..it was giving high level armor that you could only get with a high level character...to low level alts. It was giving an alt gear that was not available to the average lowbie. It was removed from eq2. </p></blockquote>Are you really that naive? How is someone who is just starting the game supposed to have full mastercrafted, all adept 3's, and a top-end mount at level 12? If having an alt ding 12 and immediately receiving that isn't "twinking", I don't know what is. And if that doesn't... consider the level requirements on many things- namely t5 fabled armor. Much of it is wearable at 40 or 42; it's certainly not *obtainable* at that level unless you're merely there as a hanger-on, however- in other words, being twinked by higher level players. Twinking is alive and well in EQ2. I'm not commenting on whether it's good or not, but to claim that it doesn't exist is just disingenuous.

[Raidyen]

<cite>Kyralis wrote:</cite><blockquote>Safia@Nagafen wrote: <blockquote><p>How exactly do you twink in a game where gear and spells are level locked? Where you can only wear what Sony deems level appropriate armour at any step in the game? You can't equip anything before you're the right level, so...? Really, if with even the slightest application of time..doing quests and going through dungeons, anyone can have the best armor and spells at the lower levels, and I do mean ANYONE, how in God's name do people think its even possible to twink? </p><p>Twinking was an eq1 thing..it was giving high level armor that you could only get with a high level character...to low level alts. It was giving an alt gear that was not available to the average lowbie. It was removed from eq2. </p></blockquote>Are you really that naive? How is someone who is just starting the game supposed to have full mastercrafted, all adept 3's, and a top-end mount at level 12? If having an alt ding 12 and immediately receiving that isn't "twinking", I don't know what is. And if that doesn't... consider the level requirements on many things- namely t5 fabled armor. Much of it is wearable at 40 or 42; it's certainly not *obtainable* at that level unless you're merely there as a hanger-on, however- in other words, being twinked by higher level players. Twinking is alive and well in EQ2. I'm not commenting on whether it's good or not, but to claim that it doesn't exist is just disingenuous.</blockquote><p>So by this logic, once you turn 18 and graduate from High school, you should be given a mansion to live in and a million dollars, maybe a nice BMW or something.  Try working for it.  A new player is not going to be able to log in and immediatly be able to compete with someone that has been playing for a year or more.  Take out all gear and master 1's if you want, a new player will still get rolled by an experienced pvp'er.  That will never change.</p><p>I still get confused about people that think they are going to log in and win a game as soon as the splash screen fades.  Learn, earn money, get better, and eventaully you will be one of those good pvp players. </p>

[Simera]

Deekin@Venekor wrote: <blockquote><cite>Kyralis wrote:</cite><blockquote>Are you really that naive? How is someone who is just starting the game supposed to have full mastercrafted, all adept 3's, and a top-end mount at level 12? If having an alt ding 12 and immediately receiving that isn't "twinking", I don't know what is. And if that doesn't... consider the level requirements on many things- namely t5 fabled armor. Much of it is wearable at 40 or 42; it's certainly not *obtainable* at that level unless you're merely there as a hanger-on, however- in other words, being twinked by higher level players. Twinking is alive and well in EQ2. I'm not commenting on whether it's good or not, but to claim that it doesn't exist is just disingenuous.</blockquote><p>So by this logic, once you turn 18 and graduate from High school, you should be given a mansion to live in and a million dollars, maybe a nice BMW or something.  Try working for it.  A new player is not going to be able to log in and immediatly be able to compete with someone that has been playing for a year or more.  Take out all gear and master 1's if you want, a new player will still get rolled by an experienced pvp'er.  That will never change.</p><p>I still get confused about people that think they are going to log in and win a game as soon as the splash screen fades.  Learn, earn money, get better, and eventaully you will be one of those good pvp players. </p></blockquote><p>What Deekin said.  All of those things are available to anyone who plans on staying level 12 for awhile, they just have to work for them. Seriously it takes all of 15 minutes now days to level your alts crafting high enough to make a level 12 some mastercrafted. When we leveled our alts, we each took a craft and made for the others..and within an hour we were all decked out. It's not twinking, it's the way you are supposed to play the game and gain gear, it's called putting forth a tiny bit of effort. The Adept 3's at that level are a SINGLE POINT more damage than the Adept 1's. If you don't plan on staying level 12, it's not really a concern since anyone who's ever made an alt knows you can do levels 12-18 in about three hours.</p><p>The mounts require several thousand status, which is not something you get when you ding level 12. The top end mount could not be acquired by a level 12 unless they locked there for a very long time and pvp'd heavily. </p>

[Roald]

Shadexxx@Nagafen wrote: <blockquote>arg - yes it was me i have to admit. but we quested there. we killed you once than went on doing our quests and after 30 minutes you have been of recent list and popped back up on track again.... but you wanted to gank that poor lvl 9 exiled before we engaged you the second time ^^ and no at lvl 13 i can´t beat you solo tbh. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> but the climbable wall thing was so dam funny ( hail uborr, hail uborr --> knockback peeeeeewwwww ^^ )</blockquote> Yea i climbed up and just as i realized you had route.....BAM, dead emo arasai <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Armawk]

Deekin@Venekor wrote: <blockquote>Try working for it.  A new player is not going to be able to log in and immediatly be able to compete with someone that has been playing for a year or more.  </blockquote><p> This is true and proper.. however alts pollute the system, as characters fight characters, but in reality one is fighting that character, his alts, his guild and buddies.</p><p>A new character is and should be weak compared to an established one, no doubt about that. </p>

[Simera]

<cite>shaunfletcher wrote:</cite><blockquote>Deekin@Venekor wrote: <blockquote>Try working for it.  A new player is not going to be able to log in and immediatly be able to compete with someone that has been playing for a year or more.  </blockquote><p> This is true and proper.. however alts pollute the system, as characters fight characters, but in reality one is fighting that character, his alts, his guild and buddies.</p><p>A new character is and should be weak compared to an established one, no doubt about that. </p></blockquote><p> Well sure, it was much more fun the first week of the server when we were all on somewhat even footing, but the scenario you present was there from the second week on. Some people just had a lot more time to play than others, some thought nothing of farming Wailing Caves hours on end, so in the end...there's always gonna be people more powerful than you. That's where grouping up or calling on the bigger guys to help us came in. </p>

[Armawk]

Safia@Nagafen wrote: <blockquote><p> Well sure, it was much more fun the first week of the server when we were all on somewhat even footing, but the scenario you present was there from the second week on. Some people just had a lot more time to play than others, some thought nothing of farming Wailing Caves hours on end, so in the end...there's always gonna be people more powerful than you. That's where grouping up or calling on the bigger guys to help us came in. </p></blockquote><p> I find nothing wrong in that comment at all. </p><p>Some kind of toning down was inevitable though Im sure we can all see that if we think about it. </p>