GU36 - The (Not So) Little Things

[NiamiDenMother]

Crafters! Have your eyes glazed over after a glance at the ginormous Test Update Notes for GU36? Have you longed for a summary of <i>just</i> the ones that impact crafters? Fear not! Mum has tackled the top 15 "little things" of interest to tradeskillers in Game Udate 36, which is currently in the Test phase. Read all about <a href="http://eq2.eqtraders.com/articles/article_page.php?article=g138&menustr=040000000000" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">the "(Not So) Little Things" here.</a>

[MikesterBrau]

   Great article and lots to be excited about in the next patch for those of us who love to craft.  Thanks!

[KerowynnKaotic]

<p>HAH!  </p><ul><li>Open, sez me! Proximity-sensitive doors in Qeynos crafting instances now open when you walk near them! </li></ul><p>I totally missed that one!   OH!  I am so thankful for that little fix.   </p><p>To my disgrace I have never been able to do a Alchemist Rush Writ.  I have always failed by mere seconds.  <img src="/smilies/499fd50bc713bfcdf2ab5a23c00c2d62.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Woodworker / Tailor & FP Provisioner .. no problem but My Alchemist has always failed them .. without going to an outside Crafting Station, that is. </p><ul><li>Waddling at the end of a writ? Introducing weightless coin! </li></ul><p>*smacks Dellmon* Yes, Dellmon, there is a darn good reason for self-shuffling coin, in this game!  Try walking around with a lvl 10 Conj / 63 Sage after doing a few hundred writs .. oh sure my halfing looks like she is running but really .. she is walking .. very, very, very, very .. sloooowly ... </p><p>Thank you Devs!  I totally never thought about <i>asking</i> for it but it was something I missed from DAoC.  </p><ul><li>Sinking Sands harvestables tweaked - more rootseses for all! </li></ul><p>*snicker* good one Niami!  </p><ul><li>Higher-end status homes available in Neriak and Kelethin! </li></ul><p>Your summary reminded me I wanted to go check them out .. I only got time to see the Kelethin one before the test server came down but my! but it's spacious! To a Fae, at any rate.   Still no windows *sigh* .. </p><p>WTB Kelethin Windows! PST! Willing to go as high as 3p! </p><ul><li>Goodness, gracious, great swords of fire - we've got more furniture! </li></ul><p>Furniture is nice .. but WOOHOO!  Poppies!   I saw this on your forums and if I could ever figure how to get my EQ2Traders Forum acct to work I would have posted this there ... </p><p>*HUGS DOMINO!*  Thank you Thank you Thank you!  I love California Poppies!  I have always wanted to "take home" that lone poppy bush in TS!  That is the 1st thing I am having the hubby craft for me when LU36 hits live!  </p><ul><li>Chocolate <i>and</i> cheescake?! Am I dreaming? </li></ul><p>meh.  This is the only item I really have to "yawn" on.   Yes, it's nice we can craft Chocolate & Cheescake again but .. Food (<i>vs drink</i>) has very little value in game and stat-less food has even less value.  So, it is only really good for pure RP'g and Crafting Pristine Bonus.   Don't get me wrong .. Fluff is Fun! ( eh .. mmm .. *naughty chuckle*&nbsp<img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> and Extra Recipes are always appreciated!  But, it would have been nice if there were more "substance" to them.  </p><p><img src="/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>You did however miss one TS goodie .. at least I consider it a Goodie! .. </p><ul><li>Harvests used for imbuing should no longer trigger the message and sound used for true rare harvests.</li></ul><p>I SOOO can't wait for this.  Last night I was in a crappy mood after harvesting for a few hours in the Croc Caves to hear .. " You have found a Rare " over 12 times!  all of which were Lambent Stones .. *censored naughty words and thoughts*  GAH!</p><p>I wish they would just patch that part through tomorrow!   <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>---</p><p>Great Write up!  Cheerful and to the point as always !   <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[GuardianOfTheDe]

Oh WOW YAY for the crafting doors! *runs off to find someone who can make this possible for houses too* I don't know how many times I'm just trying to decorate and the stupid door closes on me while I'm trying to shove everything in a room! Oh, and Quote: I wish they would just patch that part through tomorrow! /quote QFE!

[NiamiDenMother]

Good catch on the imbue ... gunk.  {grins} I've updated the article accordingly. ~Mum

[DrkVsr]

<span style="font-size: small; color: #993300; font-family: comic sans ms,sand">Not sure how having automatic doors in the TS area will make Rush Orders any easier, ah've tried doing those in FP waiting until around the corner with a straight run to the Chemistry Table before accepting and still fail to make the last 2 or 3 recquired item</span>

[Nolrog]

<cite>KerowynnKaotic wrote:</cite><blockquote><ul><li>Harvests used for imbuing should no longer trigger the message and sound used for true rare harvests.</li></ul></blockquote>This is such a great change.  Can't tell you how many times I'd be out harvesting, and get the rare sound only to find it was a flower and then be disappointed. 

[NiamiDenMother]

Due to a few late-breaking changes and issues, I've updated the article a bit more, and color-coded the new information so that it is easier to see what has changed. ~Mum

[DrkVsr]

<span style="font-size: small; color: #993300; font-family: comic sans ms,sand">Any idea about what the new Imbue Harvestables sound will be?</span>

[Phylok]

*drops to his knees to thank Tunare and Karana* finally I can start making what i've wanted to make for a long time now.

[Kiara-]

Phylok@Antonia Bayle wrote: <blockquote>*drops to his knees to thank Tunare and Karana* finally I can start making what i've wanted to make for a long time now. </blockquote><p> <span style="color: #cc99ff">Tunare is a bimbo and Karana rusts my armour.</span></p><p><span style="color: #cc99ff">* sniff *  go Innoruuk!!</span></p>

[Calthine]

<cite>DrkVsr wrote:</cite><blockquote><span style="font-size: small; font-family: comic sans ms,sand"><span style="color: #993300">Any idea about what the new Imbue Harvestables sound will be?</span></span></blockquote> Oh, I haven't had my second cuppa yet, but I'm reasonably sure there aren't new imbue harvestables.  They just made them so they don't try and tell you they're a rare.

[NiamiDenMother]

<cite>DrkVsr wrote:</cite><blockquote><span style="font-size: small; font-family: comic sans ms,sand"><span style="color: #993300">Any idea about what the new Imbue Harvestables sound will be?</span></span></blockquote>The new sound will be the ... sound of silence.  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Harvesting these was like being told "You've won! ... the consolation prize in the rare lottery" They're uncommon.  They do have perfectly valid uses, but getting the "rare item!" notification for them was a serious let-down for many.

[Tain]

<cite>Kiara wrote:</cite><blockquote>Phylok@Antonia Bayle wrote: <blockquote>*drops to his knees to thank Tunare and Karana* finally I can start making what i've wanted to make for a long time now. </blockquote><p> <span style="color: #cc99ff">Tunare is a bimbo and Karana rusts my armour.</span></p><p><span style="color: #cc99ff">* sniff *  go Innoruuk!!</span></p></blockquote><p> *snicker*</p><p>I am VERY happy about the change to the "rare" message for the imbue items.  It got me all excited and then I wanted to cry every time lol</p>

[Ruthillia]

I'm one of the players who reads and re-reads and scours forums and listens at doors...  but rarely says much. However, this coming update and the great post Naimi has shared is cause enough for me to pound a bit on the keyboard with a ton of YAYs!! and a million Thank Yous to the devs for finally giving us something I can sink my teeth into, and to Naimi for once again providing me with invaluable info.  My fav part of the game is crafting and I feel that spark of interest that has been woefully missing of late.  I can't wait! Ruthillia and her alts (AB)

[mellowknees72]

<p>whee!  I'm excited for these changes to go live.  Auto-opening doors will be MARVELOUS!!  I play over a satellite connection and there is quite a lot of lag between double clicking on a door and when it opens for me.  This seriously ate into the time I had for timed writs, so I gave them up - they were too stressful!  Looks like I'll have to try them again! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>(And YAY for the 'rare' noise going away when you harvest a stupid not-really-rare-fake-you-out-shimmering/glimmering thingy).</p>

[NiamiDenMother]

This is something I added to the article just now, so I figured it'd bear repeating over here: <span style="font-size: medium">Come On Baby, Light My Fire</span> Were you one of the many who was disappointed when the Rujarkian Firepit and Rujarkian Signal Fire were, well, not full of fire? Not even a single tiny spark?  Did you do creative contortions with raised platforms and ebon sconces to make your firepit at least <i>seem</i> like it had flames ... or was that just me?  Well, watch out for your curtains, rugs and other flammables, because they're on fire!  The firepit gives off flames and a small amount of smoke. The signal fire is bright embers and enough smoke for you to send smoke signals seen two zones away, just like something called a "signal" fire should! In the words of the Human Torch, "Flame on!"

[Zabjade]

<cite>NiamiDenMother wrote:</cite><blockquote>This is something I added to the article just now, so I figured it'd bear repeating over here: <span style="font-size: medium">Come On Baby, Light My Fire</span> Were you one of the many who was disappointed when the Rujarkian Firepit and Rujarkian Signal Fire were, well, not full of fire? Not even a single tiny spark?  Did you do creative contortions with raised platforms and ebon sconces to make your firepit at least <i>seem</i> like it had flames ... or was that just me?  Well, watch out for your curtains, rugs and other flammables, because they're on fire!  The firepit gives off flames and a small amount of smoke. The signal fire is bright embers and enough smoke for you to send smoke signals seen two zones away, just like something called a "signal" fire should! In the words of the Human Torch, "Flame on!" </blockquote> Something to look into, might make me reposition the signal torch.

[GuardianOfTheDe]

<cite>DrkVsr wrote:</cite><blockquote><span style="font-size: small; font-family: comic sans ms,sand"><span style="color: #993300">Not sure how having automatic doors in the TS area will make Rush Orders any easier, ah've tried doing those in FP waiting until around the corner with a straight run to the Chemistry Table before accepting and still fail to make the last 2 or 3 recquired item</span></span></blockquote>Are you sure you're using the right tier of Techniques? It really should only take 25-30 seconds to make an item.

[rvbarton]

yay!  Thank goodness for the dressing room!

[Mikkahl]

<p>They used Control-click for the dressing room (although adding the dressing room to the right-click menu might have been easier for newbies to find).  This will be great for my Tailoring and Carpentering customers, and for myself when shopping.</p><p>I also read that Alt-click on an item does something - auto-adds to trade window and something else.  But perhaps you wouldn't consider that a tradeskill change.</p><p>Now if I only could put up a "whiteboard" in the sales area of my home, so I could leave messages for my customers and friends, and they could too.</p><p>Or if we could open one of our house vault slots to be available "deposit-only" to the public, so I could make large deliveries to a customer's house, instead of using many emails.</p>

[DrkVsr]

<cite>GuardianOfTheDead wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>DrkVsr wrote:</cite><blockquote><span style="font-size: small; font-family: comic sans ms,sand"><span style="color: #993300">Not sure how having automatic doors in the TS area will make Rush Orders any easier, ah've tried doing those in FP waiting until around the corner with a straight run to the Chemistry Table before accepting and still fail to make the last 2 or 3 recquired item</span></span></blockquote>Are you sure you're using the right tier of Techniques? It really should only take 25-30 seconds to make an item. </blockquote> <span style="color: #993300">Ah use the even lvl tiers (the ones that give a double positive result, at the moment using the t4 counters (and won't change until get to t6) don't know if it's slower but it guarentees lvl4 results every time (unless the RNG desides to play soccer with your stones)</span>

[Calthine]

<cite>DrkVsr wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>GuardianOfTheDead wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>DrkVsr wrote:</cite><blockquote><span style="font-size: small; font-family: comic sans ms,sand"><span style="color: #993300">Not sure how having automatic doors in the TS area will make Rush Orders any easier, ah've tried doing those in FP waiting until around the corner with a straight run to the Chemistry Table before accepting and still fail to make the last 2 or 3 recquired item</span></span></blockquote>Are you sure you're using the right tier of Techniques? It really should only take 25-30 seconds to make an item. </blockquote> <span style="color: #993300">Ah use the even lvl tiers (the ones that give a double positive result, at the moment using the t4 counters (and won't change until get to t6) don't know if it's slower but it guarentees lvl4 results every time (unless the RNG desides to play soccer with your stones)</span></blockquote>If you're only using Arts from the even-numbered Tiers, you're only using Durability Arts.  While this is one way to get Pristine relaibly, it really slows down your progress.  Try mixing in some of the Progress Arts too.

[DrkVsr]

<p><span style="font-size: small"><span style="color: #993300">Ah do, usually after gaining a lvl going for skillups or when ah'm worried about the result (even when ah do use the proper counters there have been times ah've gotten a failure, or even a critical failure)</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: small"><span style="color: #993300">Ah apologize for the derail, please continue <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></span></span></p>

[GuardianOfTheDe]

Sorry, still de-railing <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Free bump? When are we getting this on live anyways? *is impatient* You know, I never really thought about different crafting techniques and I'll try to describe this as best I can. As a Tier 6, I grab some cucumber wine (or whatever my guid's provisioner decides to give me <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> ) drink heartily (and quite thankful gin and tonic is not REALLY alocoholic. <img src="/smilies/385970365b8ed7503b4294502a458efa.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> ) and spam the heck out of my highest progress increase special. 123.123.123. You can usually count heartbeats and tell when there might or might not be a counter tick. When I get a counter tick, I will hit the proper one with my highest durabilty, then before the tick ends, spam my other two progress counters. Don't worry if you miss or hit the incorrect one. If you critically fail and your table turn red, your progress bar hits yellow it's time to play the panic game *cheer* Now spam the progress buttons until you run out of power and your durability is at least 1/4 way in green, then return to button mashing your progress. I usually end up with a good 3-4 minutes to spare. Granted, I am Qeynosian. I am not sure how big a factor the spacing between the desk and how far away your table is would be a factor. In fact, as Freeportians don't have to worry about doors you should be able to craft with a little more leeway than even I, yes? Edit: missed commas.

[Naveta]

Ok so i don't post much as a matter of fact this may be my first, but i have a question here. I am an up and coming carpenter (currently 29), is there currently or will there be elaborate lounge type chairs or couches.  I have seen some benches but they are backless. I am sure the benches are better in higher tiers though. Ooh Ooh and while i have the soap box it would be soo cool if you could sit on said items. ok done now

[Almeric_CoS]

Naveta@Permafrost wrote: <blockquote>I am sure the benches are better in higher tiers though. </blockquote><p> From a level 70 carpenter:  Don't count on it <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Apart from the ability to use furniture in terms of sitting or laying, decent multi-person seating is one of our biggest deficiencies.</p>

[LeonL]

Naveta@Permafrost wrote: <blockquote>Ooh Ooh and while i have the soap box it would be soo cool if you could sit on said items. ok done now </blockquote><p>Don't hold your breath. Players have been asking for this since about January, 2005, just after World of Warcraft came out and someone played both and said, "I want to be able to sit on a chair like that!" </p><p> On a different topic on the changes: How about they change many of the clusters so that they don't have the nearly identical silvery color? I think the only clusters that are uniquely identifiable by shape and/or color are copper, electrum, blackened iron, gold, palladium, and admantine. Maybe they could do something with the roots, too? Just a couple suggestions for the devs to consider in the future. </p><p>I am glad that they are making the loams a bit more uniquely identifiable. Nothing like searching through my alchy boxes and backpacks to see which loam is loam x to be mailed or moved. Any word on whether or not this will also affect the dusts that are byproducts of the Adept III crafting process? </p>

[NiamiDenMother]

<cite>LeonL wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I am glad that they are making the loams a bit more uniquely identifiable. Nothing like searching through my alchy boxes and backpacks to see which loam is loam x to be mailed or moved. Any word on whether or not this will also affect the dusts that are byproducts of the Adept III crafting process? </p></blockquote> The byproduct dusts, and the old pre-LU24 rare byproduct loams that are used in place of dusts have not had their colors changed, only the harvested loams. Some of these other ideas sound neat, folks, and to make sure they don't get lost, you might want to drop them in the wishlist sticky thread in the tradeskill discussion forum, since Domino's been keeping an eye on that.  <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[DrkVsr]

<cite>GuardianOfTheDead wrote:</cite><blockquote>Sorry, still de-railing <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Free bump? When are we getting this on live anyways? *is impatient* You know, I never really thought about different crafting techniques and I'll try to describe this as best I can. As a Tier 6, I grab some cucumber wine (or whatever my guid's provisioner decides to give me <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> ) drink heartily (and quite thankful gin and tonic is not REALLY alocoholic. <img src="/smilies/385970365b8ed7503b4294502a458efa.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> ) and spam the heck out of my highest progress increase special. 123.123.123. You can usually count heartbeats and tell when there might or might not be a counter tick. When I get a counter tick, I will hit the proper one with my highest durabilty, then before the tick ends, spam my other two progress counters. Don't worry if you miss or hit the incorrect one. If you critically fail and your table turn red, your progress bar hits yellow it's time to play the panic game *cheer* Now spam the progress buttons until you run out of power and your durability is at least 1/4 way in green, then return to button mashing your progress. I usually end up with a good 3-4 minutes to spare. Granted, I am Qeynosian. I am not sure how big a factor the spacing between the desk and how far away your table is would be a factor. In fact, as Freeportians don't have to worry about doors you should be able to craft with a little more leeway than even I, yes? </blockquote><p><span style="color: #993300">Yup, that's pretty much what ah do, usually save the power drain counter for emergancies, keep the odd lvl tiers (if they are higher) again for emergancies or working on skillups but will sometimes use one of the odds if it doesn't do too much negative</span></p><p><span style="color: #993300">FP doesn't have doors, but that's because it's just a gloryfied mineshaft</span> </p>