GU36 - When?

[Legiax]

<p>GU 36 Looks promising tbh.</p><p>Anyone know when its due for release? I cant wait.</p>

[Rijacki]

Sakatai@Nagafen wrote: <blockquote><p>GU 36 Looks promising tbh.</p><p>Anyone know when its due for release? I cant wait.</p></blockquote> It jsut went to Test yesterday.  My guess is that it will go Live, at best, the end of June or, at worst, early to mid July.  There is a lot in the GU and a lot that might need to be tweaked or at least fully tested out.

[aardda]

They are doing their best to release updates approximately 1 month apart. From this i would say the earliest gu36 would go live would be 2 weeks today (27th june) to possibly a week after, assuming no major bugs surface during testing.

[re1master]

Sakatai@Nagafen wrote: <blockquote><p>GU 36 Looks promising tbh except the changes to the buckler line for warriors</p><p>Anyone know when its due for release? I cant wait.</p></blockquote>fixed.

[Looker1010]

<p>I can only suggest patience. I play test regularly. Was on for several hours yesterday and filed 2 bug reports and a feedback. GU36 has a lot to offer but is still very rough around the edges. Give us some time on test to smooth things out first. </p><p>If the OP is that eager why not make a character or two on test and get a first look at everything, including some things that never make it into game.</p>

[Ebjelen]

<p>The only answer you'll get between now and two days before release is "When it's ready." GU36 really is on test server to be tested.</p><p>If you want to see the changes and testing process, you can create your own test toons.</p><p>There is no application process for the test servers. If you have an account, you have access to the test server. Go into your EQII folder and open the test server folder. In there is a readme file that instucts on how to modify your software to access the test servers. It's basically a process of creating another copy of the game and the shortcut to access that copy.</p><p>Be warned, the test server is developer active. They will grab you to test things despite your busy adventure schedule.</p>

[sfarugger]

I would probably suspect probably the 1st week of July?

[interstellarmatter]

I'm kind of excited about it being released.  I didn't know that we were going to be able to change TS. 

[Sanati]

<cite>sfarugger wrote:</cite><blockquote>I would probably suspect probably the 1st week of July?</blockquote> That's 4th of July week, I kind of expect them to push it out before then.

[Netzoko]

Where is the information about it? Is there a site/link that shows the possible changes?

[Seagoat]

<p>The GU36 preview is on the <a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/index.vm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">EQ2 Players</a> website.  I find it worthwhile to check every day (sometimes twice) to stay up-to-date on the latest goings-on.</p><p>You can also check the <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/forums/show.m?forum_id=746" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Test Update Notes</a> board, as well as the <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/forums/show.m?forum_id=748" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">In Testing Feedback</a> board.  They're both good sources for finding out about possible upcoming changes to the live servers as well as reading about how the testing community feels about them.</p>

[NiteWolfe]

Sakatai@Nagafen wrote: <blockquote><p>GU 36 Looks promising tbh.</p><p>Anyone know when its due for release? I cant wait.</p></blockquote> Promising? You call a nerf to almost every cast promising? Actually the hate feed nerf is a direct nerf to every one since the less hate that can be feed to the tank the less dps every one will be able to do.  I was looking forward to this update also till i heard the words we are going to try and make  other AA lines better. Which i read to be we will nerf all the other lines to the point that the worse lines now look better and i was right. Starting to feel like 1 to many nerf bats to me!

[Erithorn]

<cite>NiteWolfe wrote:</cite><blockquote>Sakatai@Nagafen wrote: <blockquote><p>GU 36 Looks promising tbh.</p><p>Anyone know when its due for release? I cant wait.</p></blockquote> Promising? You call a nerf to almost every cast promising? Actually the hate feed nerf is a direct nerf to every one since the less hate that can be feed to the tank the less dps every one will be able to do.  I was looking forward to this update also till i heard the words we are going to try and make  other AA lines better. Which i read to be we will nerf all the other lines to the point that the worse lines now look better and i was right. Starting to feel like 1 to many nerf bats to me! </blockquote><p> OMG.... Mr. Negative is alive and living in something called a <b>"NiteWolfe" </b>!</p><p>There are a lot of good things in this GU, and the screaming of <b>"nerf"</b> might be a little premature.  Adjustments are always necessary in a dynamic interface like EQ2....   grow with them...   do not fall into the <b>" Chicken Little "</b> attitide so copied by children here.</p><p> Erithorn</p><p>(Grumpy Old Man)</p><p> </p>

[kenm]

<cite>Erithorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>NiteWolfe wrote:</cite><blockquote>Sakatai@Nagafen wrote: <blockquote><p>GU 36 Looks promising tbh.</p><p>Anyone know when its due for release? I cant wait.</p></blockquote> Promising? You call a nerf to almost every cast promising? Actually the hate feed nerf is a direct nerf to every one since the less hate that can be feed to the tank the less dps every one will be able to do.  I was looking forward to this update also till i heard the words we are going to try and make  other AA lines better. Which i read to be we will nerf all the other lines to the point that the worse lines now look better and i was right. Starting to feel like 1 to many nerf bats to me! </blockquote><p> OMG.... Mr. Negative is alive and living in something called a <b>"NiteWolfe" </b>!</p><p>There are a lot of good things in this GU, and the screaming of <b>"nerf"</b> might be a little premature.  Adjustments are always necessary in a dynamic interface like EQ2....   grow with them...   do not fall into the <b>" Chicken Little "</b> attitide so copied by children here.</p><p> Erithorn</p><p>(Grumpy Old Man)</p><p> </p></blockquote>No, there's next to nothing good in this GU.  It's a bunch of crappy nerfs either reducing DPS of classes or reducing their ability to get rid of or transfer aggro.  Anybody with half a brain can see that raids are going to be a complete mess with aggro all over the place if this goes live as is.

[Cathars]

<p>Seriously.  99 times out of 100, tweaks people get all in a huff over end up being forgotten a week after happening.  Most of the time changes are made to accomadate future additions / expansions.</p><p>Anyways, big GU's tend to go in 2-3 weeks after going to test.</p>

[kenm]

<cite>Catharsis wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Seriously.  99 times out of 100, tweaks people get all in a huff over end up being forgotten a week after happening.  Most of the time changes are made to accomadate future additions / expansions.</p><p>Anyways, big GU's tend to go in 2-3 weeks after going to test.</p></blockquote>So you openly admit that SOE has a habit of nerfing everybody so they can spend an expansion wasting time to get back to exactly where they were pre-nerf?  And you don't have a problem with this, nice. I personally think it's a load of crap that we get stuck in an endless cycle of getting nerfed to work up to exactly where we were before time after time.  It's not really fun whatsoever and SOE has so much potential to make it possible to progress and be fun without nerfing everybody.

[steelbadger]

Hmmm, mixed feelings... On the downside: OMG, My hate transfer is being nerfed, I'm gonna die so much >.< Upside: Looks like doing dps will require more than just pressing attacky buttons quickly, now I have to press both attacky and deaggro buttons quickly. This is making the game harder, to do that requires reduction in player power compared to mobs.

[Ravaan]

hopefully around the same time i get invited to Warhammers beta.

[Cathars]

Kenman@Najena wrote: <blockquote><cite>Catharsis wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Seriously.  99 times out of 100, tweaks people get all in a huff over end up being forgotten a week after happening.  Most of the time changes are made to accomadate future additions / expansions.</p><p>Anyways, big GU's tend to go in 2-3 weeks after going to test.</p></blockquote>So you openly admit that SOE has a habit of nerfing everybody so they can spend an expansion wasting time to get back to exactly where they were pre-nerf?  And you don't have a problem with this, nice. I personally think it's a load of crap that we get stuck in an endless cycle of getting nerfed to work up to exactly where we were before time after time.  It's not really fun whatsoever and SOE has so much potential to make it possible to progress and be fun without nerfing everybody. </blockquote> From your tone, and the fact that you call doing content "wasting time", I suspect you have deeper issues with this game than some nerfs.  Rethink why you play and if its not "because you enjoy it", then nothing anyone says can change your opinion.  I promise you nerfs are not arbitrary or malicious.  There is always a more significant reason for it.  The sky isnt falling.  Raids wont grind to a halt.  And people won't quit in droves.  People will adapt.

[MadLordOfMilk]

<cite>NiteWolfe wrote:</cite><blockquote>Sakatai@Nagafen wrote: <blockquote><p>GU 36 Looks promising tbh.</p><p>Anyone know when its due for release? I cant wait.</p></blockquote> Promising? You call a nerf to almost every cast promising? Actually the hate feed nerf is a direct nerf to every one since the less hate that can be feed to the tank the less dps every one will be able to do.  I was looking forward to this update also till i heard the words we are going to try and make  other AA lines better. Which i read to be we will nerf all the other lines to the point that the worse lines now look better and i was right. Starting to feel like 1 to many nerf bats to me! </blockquote>I can only think of three possible solutions to avoid all nerf bats: -Stop playing MMORPGs -Avoid technology for the rest of your life -Suicide. Now, #3 is a bit extreme, #2 is also extreme (to a lesser extent), so that leaves you with #1 =P Seriously though, if you want a static game that has a guaranteed unchanging design, pick up a playstation.

[DragonMaster2385]

I am excited about this upate, as the "nerfs" don't look too severe.  I am glad to see that they are making more AA lines desirable.  I am excited about the closet feature as well, so this is going to be a pretty good update.

[interstellarmatter]

Kenman@Najena wrote: <blockquote><cite>Catharsis wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Seriously.  99 times out of 100, tweaks people get all in a huff over end up being forgotten a week after happening.  Most of the time changes are made to accomadate future additions / expansions.</p><p>Anyways, big GU's tend to go in 2-3 weeks after going to test.</p></blockquote>So you openly admit that SOE has a habit of nerfing everybody so they can spend an expansion wasting time to get back to exactly where they were pre-nerf?  And you don't have a problem with this, nice. I personally think it's a load of crap that we get stuck in an endless cycle of getting nerfed to work up to exactly where we were before time after time.  It's not really fun whatsoever and SOE has so much potential to make it possible to progress and be fun without nerfing everybody. </blockquote>You really should take a break from MMOs if you take this stuff that seriously.  Crap happens.  Just enjoy the game and don't worry about it.  Most people forget nerfs ever happen about 2 or 3 weeks later.  For christs sake, at least it adds a new spin to the game.  Otherwise, it ends up being the same stagnant combat for the past 2 years.    Just breath a little and enjoy it or take a break, either way it's going to happen.

[tass]

I was reading the update notes waiting for test to load and there is indeed alot of nerf backs to classes and aa lines. They're going down the different lines and hacking. What I don't get is pvp has a buffer to test all the slice and dicing they're doing to the classes over there but theres no buffer to test any of the content thats coming out with the next expansion.

[ArivenGemini]

Kenman@Najena wrote: <blockquote>Erithorn wrote: No, there's next to nothing good in this GU.  It's a bunch of crappy nerfs either reducing DPS of classes or reducing their ability to get rid of or transfer aggro.  Anybody with half a brain can see that raids are going to be a complete mess with aggro all over the place if this goes live as is. </blockquote> Speaking as someone whose main is a clase that is gonna get loss of some of aggro transfer... I am not really worried.. and I am in some ways glad for this change.  It shouldnt be a "mash the buttons til you win" thing.. nor should keeping aggro be as easy as sticking a hate battery in the group.  People SHOULD have to manage their hate generation.. this isn't a race to the end.. its a cooperative effort to achieve a goal, and with some of the hate transfer setups it is more like the former than it should be.. So far, after all my time in the game, I do see that the developers are trying to end up with fair and balanced mechanics... and I see this as moving towards that goal..  it may not be perfect out the gate, first passes rarely are.. but I am confident that they will keep at it and tweak it as things go to make things equitable and the like. In other words, give em a chance and see what happens, if it isn't perfect, make suggestions about change... ranting and condemnations are not gonna fix anything.. all they do is get people (including devs) to tune you out.

[LordPazuzu]

I see the hate nerf as making raid more challenging.  I view this as a good thing.