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Lewstelamon
06-05-2007, 01:56 AM
Not talking solo here, and factor in AAs too(I don't know enough about any of the classes to know the answer to this).  Basically what I'm looking for, is not necessarily the healer who can heal for the most, or heal spike damage best, or anything like that, but the healer that can last the longest.. assume pure support, casting little to no offensive spells(debuffs only if anything).  Opinions?  I only know enough about healers to possibly rule out the fury, but beyond that any input is appreciated.  Thanks in advance! Yes, I posted this in the warden forums.. I don't know if healers read multiple forums, and the warden and templar are both active, so I posted in both... If it is a problem I can delete one.

Agnar D'Shar
06-05-2007, 07:37 AM
Well, I play a templar and a fury. Just a noob templar, but my fury is at 65. And lemme tell ya, she can heal throughout *long* fights. As much WIS as I could get her, she *never* runs out of power, unless she tries to nuke. Not saying furies will out last templars at all. Just that you should not rule out furies, because they can heal with the best of them.

Mabes
06-05-2007, 12:07 PM
If you're talking about healers that will can go longest before running out of power, you'd probably want an inquisitor over a templar, as they have a melee proc spell they can put on a group member that everytime it procs, the inquisitor gains power.  As far as other healers, not really sure, don't know too much details about them.

redde
06-05-2007, 12:12 PM
Yeah you haven't really said what you mean by longevity, just what you don't mean. If you're talking about not running out of power, then it is more of a gear dependant thing than anything else. As the previous poster suggested the inq has a buff to increase their power, but FT gear and higher wisdom could give another caster the edge. Furies and wardens also have spirit of the bat (+power regen) and +max power buffs.. If you are talking about who is likely to stay up longest while being hit, whilst still maintaining the ability to heal, then temp/inq will do this best since they wear plate.

ParlMoebius
06-05-2007, 05:21 PM
<p>It's really difficult to quantify what it is youre talking about exactly.  Every class should be able to effectively last through an appropriately matched fight.  A huge part of this is, as others have stated before me, largely a matter of gear, and spell quality.  Boost your power pool with wis and boost your ministration and +healing.  Make sure your spells are all as high quality as you can afford so you get the most bang for your buck in terms of power expenditure.  It also matters hugely on what kind of group makeup you have.</p><p>Those things said though, I will give the templars a shameless plug.  I think we make phenomenal endurance healers.  I've spent a large amount of time in duo's and small groups, and thrill in the difficult fights down to the wire.  I cant speak directly about inquisitors, but templars have quite a few proc/lotto based heals that can accumulate a ton of heals over the course of a long fight without much power expediture.  </p>

Arweena69
06-07-2007, 08:29 PM
If you are talking purely in the power line of things the Defiler wins, with their cannibalize(AA I think) and Vaults helm they have virtually limitless power.  I've been in groups and raids with a defiler friend and she outlasts me on power with only using her Vaults helm, while I burn through potions, manastone, Honor of Pantrilla, Helm of the Scaleborn, and Overflowing Vessel. So as far as just maintaining power during a fight Defilers rule. This is just what I have seen to be true for a high level Defiler vs. Templar.

juz
06-12-2007, 05:14 PM
<p>Well, you can narrow it down at least between subclasses. All things being equal:</p><p>INQs > Templars. INQs have melee proc for power as mentioned above. Although Templars buff WIS so they will have a bigger power pool to start with.</p><p>Wardens > Furies. Wardens self buff a heck of a lot more WIS than Furies plus they have an AA for Spirit of Bat the Druid lv35 spell that has power regen.</p><p>Defilers > Mystics. Mystics can have a bigger power pool but Defilers have 2 Canni abilities that put  Mystics to shame.</p><p>Now between those 3 winners, to me it's a tossup between Defilers and Wardens. INQs have the smaller power pool to start and the proc is random vs. Wardens' constant regen or Defilers' cast when you want spells.</p>

BlkVpr
06-25-2007, 04:20 AM
Between a warden inquis and defiler I say it is dead even. Wardens not only have their own FT spell but OBNOXIOUS power efficiency.  They're base heals are higher than a templar and their power costs are about that of an inquis (noticably less than templar).  Defilers can cannabilize at will (provided the ability to cast the spell).  The inquisitor spell in question is Chilling inquest, since the master can be rough to find I'll base it off the adept 3, which has a 10% chance to proc 127 power back to the inquisitor on any successful attack.  Given the right group setup (which I generally have in a raid), you can count on it to proc like you can count on the clock to keep ticking.  Very. very. very. VERY rarely do I ever run out of power.  In fact if I die mid fight my first spell on rez is to put inquest on whoever gives me the most power in my group, and I'm right back in the game.  If you have a rogue or brawler to put it on your in high heaven.  As a point of comparison I usually have around 5500-5700 power in a fight, and inquest procs at most every couple seconds, if not two, three, or four times in a row.

Istaril
06-25-2007, 04:24 AM
Fury "Animal Form" seems to be ignored here... it's also a massive power regen that, as long as the fury can get into melee, can serve as a huge boost in power. Thought I'd throw that in to further mess the equation up. I think you'll find there's no answer to the original question.

Bjerde
06-25-2007, 12:17 PM
It would be the Defiler most likely. They get cannabilize, if they have their class hat out of Vault...they win hands down. Canni proc on it, equals to FT18 or something stupid if you use every time it is up. The Inquis needs a DPS class to put their proc on, if they have that, they are golden. The Druid regen isn't all that great imo. Didn't know about the Fury melee proc, so not sure how good it is. If you stack up on FT gear, which there is plenty of in T7...no healer should really have a problem healing in a group situation.

Uilamin
06-25-2007, 12:47 PM
Inquisitors win hands down, followed by a non-mt defiler. As an inquisitor with a power regen class in group, I hardly ever drop below 95% power with no drink and spam heals and spells. Defiler's are next because of their cano spells, however, their wards seem to consume power rather fast.