Wiz vs Ranger vs Sk Raiding

[Squigglle]

Between all of those. Ranger wizard and sk, which would someone who wants to raid ALOT choose? Which is picked the most often and why? and whats wrong with the other classes?

[Image_Vain]

Ugh, Bard, isn't obvious?

[Squigglle]

i know bards are picked but i am tlaking about only between those three classes.

[Antryg Mistrose]

How many more times do you plan asking the same question?  Play what you like, you've already been told multiple times how desirable each is in raids.

[Beldin_]

<p>Sks and Rangers are highly sought-after, until everybody knows that the best raidforces just use 10 SKs 10 Rangers and 4 Healers <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Ama]

<cite>Squigglle wrote:</cite><blockquote>Between all of those. Ranger wizard and sk, which would someone who wants to raid ALOT choose? Which is picked the most often and why? and whats wrong with the other classes?</blockquote><p> Well it really depends upon the raid situation/scenario.  Wizard are nearly a dime a dozen on my server and in almost all raids I have attended there will be atleast 3-4 wizards.  This isn't bad but it just means there are alot of wizards out there and they are heavy single target nukers.  </p><p>Rangers it's hard to say since they got nerfed it's unclear what their damage potential is and if it's sustained.  Only thing I know they get is a long ranged attack that constantly fires arrows at the target.  I play an assassin and can really dish out the dps.  If you are up against a target that you have a sinister strike against then you can dishout even more dps.  </p><p>Shadowknights are a mixed bag because we are part tank, part caster, part healer.  We can heal ourselves with 2 spells and a buff with a damage ward that can be placed on others.  The damage ward has a good reuse timer on it so it isn't like you can use it 1 after another.  </p><p>We are part caster because of the damage spells we get and part tank well cause we are crusaders.  I have augmented my SK to where he could be considered low-middle end T2 dps.  However that is really REALLY pushing it and I go from 100% mana to 0 in nothing flat.  </p><p>A shadowknight can be useful on a raid because they can siphon str from the target, use their Harm Touch ability, and have a mitigation decreaser.  Another useful ability they have is the grant of armament spell which can give more mitigation to the MT if a sk is in group.  </p><p>If you want pure damage go with a wizard or ranger, but if you want support with some damage go with a SK. </p>

[Squigglle]

<cite>Amana wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Squigglle wrote:</cite><blockquote>Between all of those. Ranger wizard and sk, which would someone who wants to raid ALOT choose? Which is picked the most often and why? and whats wrong with the other classes?</blockquote><p> Well it really depends upon the raid situation/scenario.  Wizard are nearly a dime a dozen on my server and in almost all raids I have attended there will be atleast 3-4 wizards.  This isn't bad but it just means there are alot of wizards out there and they are heavy single target nukers.  </p><p>Rangers it's hard to say since they got nerfed it's unclear what their damage potential is and if it's sustained.  Only thing I know they get is a long ranged attack that constantly fires arrows at the target.  I play an assassin and can really dish out the dps.  If you are up against a target that you have a sinister strike against then you can dishout even more dps.  </p><p>Shadowknights are a mixed bag because we are part tank, part caster, part healer.  We can heal ourselves with 2 spells and a buff with a damage ward that can be placed on others.  The damage ward has a good reuse timer on it so it isn't like you can use it 1 after another.  </p><p>We are part caster because of the damage spells we get and part tank well cause we are crusaders.  I have augmented my SK to where he could be considered low-middle end T2 dps.  However that is really REALLY pushing it and I go from 100% mana to 0 in nothing flat.  </p><p>A shadowknight can be useful on a raid because they can siphon str from the target, use their Harm Touch ability, and have a mitigation decreaser.  Another useful ability they have is the grant of armament spell which can give more mitigation to the MT if a sk is in group.  </p><p>If you want pure damage go with a wizard or ranger, but if you want support with some damage go with a SK. </p></blockquote>thank you, this awsners my question very well

[Skua]

bard enchanters and shamans

[TerriBlades]

<cite>Amana wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Squigglle wrote:</cite><blockquote>Between all of those. Ranger wizard and sk, which would someone who wants to raid ALOT choose? Which is picked the most often and why? and whats wrong with the other classes?</blockquote><p> Well it really depends upon the raid situation/scenario.  Wizard are nearly a dime a dozen on my server and in almost all raids I have attended there will be atleast 3-4 wizards.  This isn't bad but it just means there are alot of wizards out there and they are heavy single target nukers.  </p><p><b><span style="color: #ff0000">Rangers it's hard to say since they got nerfed it's unclear what their damage potential is and if it's sustained. </span></b> Only thing I know they get is a long ranged attack that constantly fires arrows at the target.  I play an assassin and can really dish out the dps.  If you are up against a target that you have a sinister strike against then you can dishout even more dps.  </p><p>Shadowknights are a mixed bag because we are part tank, part caster, part healer.  We can heal ourselves with 2 spells and a buff with a damage ward that can be placed on others.  The damage ward has a good reuse timer on it so it isn't like you can use it 1 after another.  </p><p>We are part caster because of the damage spells we get and part tank well cause we are crusaders.  I have augmented my SK to where he could be considered low-middle end T2 dps.  However that is really REALLY pushing it and I go from 100% mana to 0 in nothing flat.  </p><p>A shadowknight can be useful on a raid because they can siphon str from the target, use their Harm Touch ability, and have a mitigation decreaser.  Another useful ability they have is the grant of armament spell which can give more mitigation to the MT if a sk is in group.  </p><p>If you want pure damage go with a wizard or ranger, but if you want support with some damage go with a SK. </p></blockquote><p>Im only going to tell you this one time. You need to get out more if you arent sure about a rangers DPS. More important then that, you really shouldnt be trying to give someone some advice on what class to play when you dont really understand any of the mechanics behind the classes.</p><p>To the OP: Rangers and Wizzys are a dime a dozen (I believed that someone mentioned that fact about wizards already, but it applys to both). People tend to flux back and forth with the "top" teir dps class per that expansion, and almost never is the top class, top come the next expansion. So if you wanted straight up hard core DPS, then a ranger would be your best bet, IF you have the money, or the resources to properly gear out that ranger. Otherwise, dont bother. Its will probably be extremely expensive for the Wizard as well, due to the popularity of the class. Again, for the most part, a straight damage class. Which can easily be replaced next tier by the next hard hitting DPS class to come out on top. As for the SK, SKs are tricky to play properly. They can be good tanks and good dps, but that requires alot of gear swapping. Will you be able to make more raids as an SK? Probably not. Theres really very little justification these days to run 3 plate tanks on a raid. Unless theres an opening for an MA, your SK will probably only be going on pickup raids. </p><p>None of these choices are really "great choices" for trying to get into a raid guild with a needed class. Rogues, Bards, Chanters are your most solid choices.  In the end, if you insist on playing one of those classes, it had better be a class you enjoy, because many a ranger/sk can tell you, it was pretty lonely for them in KoS raid wise. Just remember, all DPS classes are expendable.</p>