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Pizer55
06-01-2007, 05:20 PM
Are there any illusions or anything that grants the ability that fae and the evil faries (whatever they're called) have to be IMMUNE to fall damage?  it's rediculously unfair that this new race has something so powerful and we have to re-roll to get it.

OpethPA
06-01-2007, 05:27 PM
<p>Isn't that the point of having different races and classes? </p>

Stuge
06-01-2007, 05:31 PM
<span style="font-family: courier new,courier">Ridiculously unfair?  o_0  Honestly, how often are you dying from falling damage? In any case, you can get the glide/hover effect from common low level tinkered boots.  The innate safe fall though?  You're just going to have to stew in jealousy.</span>

Gorpier
06-01-2007, 05:33 PM
You can get glide sort of.. but still take falling damage...  What was hinted at is that every race will get a racial ability of some sort though I don't know when or what or even if this change will actually take place.  Chances are though, that those gnomish stilts are your only chance of comming close. I think it is a great idea, having each race have some special ability.  If you do a search it is possible that you'll find posts on this topic.  It seems I remember some months back this subject being a huge forums debate.

interstellarmatter
06-01-2007, 05:33 PM
Yes, all you have to do is...um..no..well..nevermind.  Just reroll.  It isn't that big of a deal.  If you are upset about it, just throw snowballs at gliding faes.

Crolack
06-01-2007, 05:37 PM
<p>So either play a Fae/Arasai for glide or roll:</p><p>Brigand</p><p>Swashbuckler</p><p>Assassin</p><p>Ranger</p><p>Troubadour</p><p>Dirge</p><p>Monk</p><p>Brawler</p><p>To get the safefall skill.</p>

Skua
06-01-2007, 05:41 PM
Stugein@Antonia Bayle wrote: <blockquote>Ridiculously unfair?  o_0  Honestly, how often are you dying from falling damage? In any case, you can get the glide/hover effect from common low level tinkered boots.  The innate safe fall though?  You're just going to have to stew in jealousy. </blockquote> is unfair. u dont die from failing dmg , but just droping from kelethin , while other races need to wait ¿?..... sinking sands? is a joke for a fae kos zones ? lol Tenebrous tangle the little lake....i died with my main 5 o 6 times ,going to Hoo'Loh as fae.....? lol going to solusek ro quest giver? other races need  to TURN AROUND while faes just jump and climb..... take 2 mins but why i need to? other races need the same love , at least the unde rplayed races......i am tired of elfs and faes/arasais =P (j/K i have a wood elf and half elf <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> )

Pizer55
06-01-2007, 05:43 PM
Stugein@Antonia Bayle wrote: <blockquote><span style="font-family: courier new,courier">Ridiculously unfair?  o_0  Honestly, how often are you dying from falling damage? In any case, you can get the glide/hover effect from common low level tinkered boots.  The innate safe fall though?  You're just going to have to stew in jealousy.</span> </blockquote>more often then i die to mobs or things like that

Dadurua42
06-01-2007, 05:49 PM
there is also the tinkered parachute...

Pizer55
06-01-2007, 05:54 PM
Dadurua@Oasis wrote: <blockquote>there is also the tinkered parachute... </blockquote>is this always-active or something with charges?

Dadurua42
06-01-2007, 06:01 PM
the parachutes have 5 charges....

Pizer55
06-01-2007, 06:04 PM
aka new ability overpowered ability game design

Taea
06-01-2007, 06:14 PM
Get the Fae Wing Cloak from EH.

Eileithia
06-01-2007, 06:14 PM
Go kill some mobs in EH, and get your self a Fae Wing Cloak. Don't think it does the glide bit, but it does do the parachute effect. (And doesn't use charges)

interstellarmatter
06-01-2007, 06:16 PM
<cite>Pizer55 wrote:</cite><blockquote>aka new ability overpowered ability game design </blockquote><p> Besides giggling while gliding down from a high point in the game, how is it really overpowering?  Most classes have safe fall and you can get a cloak for the others.</p><p>So, tell me again just how is it really that overpowering because I'm at a loss?</p>

Pizer55
06-01-2007, 06:19 PM
<cite>Eileithia wrote:</cite><blockquote>Go kill some mobs in EH, and get your self a Fae Wing Cloak. Don't think it does the glide bit, but it does do the parachute effect. (And doesn't use charges) </blockquote>Ok i guess, so since i'm level 20 right now i can either level up to 70 dieing a lot and solo for this cloak (hopefully the fact that i'm evil won't matter..) or i can start from scratch as a fairy all i want is to be a necromancer who doesn't take fall damage.. the glide is actually kind of a hinderance, but if that's the price of not taking fall damage so be it.

Pizer55
06-01-2007, 06:21 PM
<cite>interstellarmatter wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Pizer55 wrote:</cite><blockquote>aka new ability overpowered ability game design </blockquote><p> Besides giggling while gliding down from a high point in the game, how is it really overpowering?  Most classes have safe fall and you can get a cloak for the others.</p><p>So, tell me again just how is it really that overpowering because I'm at a loss?</p></blockquote>Again it's my playstyle.. i die a LOT from fall damage and it's pretty unpredictible when it happens

Stuge
06-01-2007, 06:25 PM
<span style="font-family: courier new,courier">So you didn't mind not having safe fall when it was a class ability of several classes, but it matters now that it's a racial ability.  I must have missed your thread complaining about how scouts being able to not take falling damage is also ridiculously unfair. Look, they have wings.  Deal.  You have options ranging from tinkered items to rerolling (cripes, you're only 20) to yes, difficult to obtain quested items.  I'm not sure what else you want to hear.  You aren't going to convince anyone that giving every player in the game innate safe fall or glide is a good idea.</span>

Eileithia
06-01-2007, 06:38 PM
Wow.. really have your panties in a twist about being able to have "free" safefall.. <img src="/smilies/385970365b8ed7503b4294502a458efa.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> If you really want to be a necro that bad, then roll an Arsai. You're only level 20.. that will take you what.. maybe 2 days to get a new toon that high? You don't have to have glide ability to have the safe-fall effect.. that is inate with both Arsai, and Fae.. Glide is a class option and allows you to float when you jump so you can jump over rivers and things like that.. can be a bit of a PITA actually if you're used to using jump to cancel spell casting.. (yes, I know you can hit escape, but it's habit now)

Illmarr
06-01-2007, 06:47 PM
Why exactly are you always falling to your death? You're the first person I ever heard admit to such a lack of skill.

Pizer55
06-01-2007, 06:48 PM
Ilmaaaaah@Lucan DLere wrote: <blockquote>Why exactly are you always falling to your death? You're the first person I ever heard admit to such a lack of skill.</blockquote>lots of cool cool tricks that you probably have no idea exist

Eileithia
06-01-2007, 06:49 PM
Ilmaaaaah@Lucan DLere wrote: <blockquote>Why exactly are you always falling to your death? You're the first person I ever heard admit to such a lack of skill.</blockquote>I was actually wondering the same thing.. and besides, even with the wings, if you get aggro mid air, you're as good as eating dirt from a big drop. There's one instance where class safe-fall > wings...

Eileithia
06-01-2007, 06:52 PM
<cite>Pizer55 wrote:</cite><blockquote>Ilmaaaaah@Lucan DLere wrote: <blockquote>Why exactly are you always falling to your death? You're the first person I ever heard admit to such a lack of skill.</blockquote>lots of cool cool tricks that you probably have no idea exist </blockquote>You make me laugh.. Not sure if you just joined the game a couple days ago or it's just the forums, but the person you're talking about there has what 5 toons in their fairly high levels and has been around at least since 2005.. I'm pretty sure there aren't any "tricks" he/she doesn't know exist at this point..

Pizer55
06-01-2007, 06:55 PM
<cite>Eileithia wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Pizer55 wrote:</cite><blockquote>Ilmaaaaah@Lucan DLere wrote: <blockquote>Why exactly are you always falling to your death? You're the first person I ever heard admit to such a lack of skill.</blockquote>lots of cool cool tricks that you probably have no idea exist </blockquote>You make me laugh.. Not sure if you just joined the game a couple days ago or it's just the forums, but the person you're talking about there has what 5 toons in their fairly high levels and has been around at least since 2005.. I'm pretty sure there aren't any "tricks" he/she doesn't know exist at this point.. </blockquote>EQ physics engine is very interesting indeed, if he knows about this (he probably doesn't because i've never seen eq2 people talk about it) he'll know why safe-fall is invaluable for it due to the stupid way the z-axis positions are calculated

Andok
06-01-2007, 07:19 PM
<cite>Pizer55 wrote:</cite><blockquote>Are there any illusions or anything that grants the ability that fae and the evil faries (whatever they're called) have to be IMMUNE to fall damage?  it's rediculously unfair that this new race has something so powerful and we have to re-roll to get it. </blockquote> I have exactly what you need.  Hold on.... let me find the link.

noetici
06-01-2007, 08:41 PM
<p>Actually since falling damage was changed, in the lower levels, falling is pretty dangerous. I died a lot on my first fae (she's had a horsie since she was like, 4) because of that. </p><p> It's a set amount of damage that you take regardless of your level or HP. So once you're a little higher level and have more HP, you'll find that you won't die so much from it. So if you stick with that character, worry not, it won't continue being an issue.</p>

Stuge
06-01-2007, 09:22 PM
<cite>Pizer55 wrote:</cite><blockquote>lots of cool cool tricks that you probably have no idea exist [...] EQ physics engine is very interesting indeed, if he knows about this (he probably doesn't because i've never seen eq2 people talk about it) he'll know why safe-fall is invaluable for it due to the stupid way the z-axis positions are calculated </blockquote><span style="font-family: courier new,courier">Haha, holy cow.  This kid is constantly entertaining. I don't think this thread has enough cowbell. <img src="http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l7/stugein/cowbell.gif" border="0"> </span>

Siogai
06-01-2007, 09:29 PM
<blockquote> <p> Besides giggling while gliding down from a high point in the game, how is it really overpowering?  Most classes have safe fall and you can get a cloak for the others.</p><p>So, tell me again just how is it really that overpowering because I'm at a loss?</blockquote></p>Unlike the winged races, Safe Fall for everyone else isn't automatic.  It's a skill you have to train (by throwing yourself off of things) in order to get better at it.  The higher your rank in SF, the higher you can fall without taking damage.  Rather, the higher you can fall with lesser risk of damage, since this skill does not always succeed in that task (I often jump off that goblin ramp in Butcherblock on my way to GFay, sometimes I take damage, sometimes I don't). Additionally, since the introduction of the Fae, they've borked the way Safe Fall trains.  Used to be, you could jump (repeatedly) off of any reasonably high height (my halfling used a table in a inn for an hour) and practice Safe Fall, eventually gaining skill.  Now, however, you practically have to climb to the top of a wizard spire and throw yourself off for a chance to +1.  It's no longer as easy to train this skill, for any class, as it used to be, and now also seems to require higher and higher places to jump from in order to practice the skill for a chance to gain a rank in it.  It also seems to require falling off of ever-higher things as you get better at falling, much in the same way the skill worked in EQLive... which sucked. There's quite a few places in the game where jumping over/off things can lead to rather drastic changes in altitude.  Having Safe Fall helps minimize the risk of crashing to one's death, or into the ground amongst monsters, missing three-quarters of your HP from the drop.

sunyata39
06-01-2007, 11:42 PM
Glide/safefall is not nearly worth being a fairy.....

Image_Vain
06-02-2007, 12:10 AM
Give everyone guns, and turn EQ2 into A FPS... Oh wait, thats Shadowrun.

PaganSaint
06-02-2007, 12:26 AM
Get a fae wing cloak and gnomish spring boots and stop whining for something another race has would be the easiest way. I'd much rather have the 5% HP from Ogres and Dwarves or the 5% larger power pool from Erudites and one other I can't think of at the moment. You know, something useful.

Lortet
06-02-2007, 01:36 AM
maybe if you pull the wings off 50 fae you should be able to make your own parachute?