crits vs dps

[grish]

I have heard quite a bit of difference as far as dressing for crits or dps. I personally went down the str/int lines for crits, wear maestro's flame (offhand) for 2% crit, the necklace from unrest with 2% melee and spell crit, 1% relic hunter and also use crit potions and strive for static plate and league items. The only dps item I have is my FTH boots with 6% boost. I have 1 crit adorn on the neck, and the dps adorn on my bow. So I guess im just curious what other ppl do as fas as their adorns go, or if anyone has done any testing. I am happy with my dps, I am curious though if I should consider swapping the fabled crit on my neck for the legendary dps one. With that I would be nearing 100 dps self buffed.

[Jayad]

10 dps is better than the crit boost. Unless you are usually in groups that boost your dps above say 140 or so. You also will benefit a lot more by using weapons with his max dmg like GDoH, in terms of auto-attack.

[grish]

Yeah, Gdoh+Maestro's atm. I know the ins and outs, just was curious as to what actually does more the crits or the dps. Thanks for the input, I may just have to try it. Also, how many of you use the league gear full time, or use the entire set when in EOF raids for the proc?

[gundali]

<p>I posted something similar a little while ago. </p><p>I know that at a certain point the DPS stat will reach the point of diminishing returns and i'll gain more DPS from crit adorns/items. What i don't know is exactly where that point is either. </p><p>Self Buffed i could reach 103 DPS, through M1 Self buff, Tunare Earing, 2 plus 10DPS Adorns and the Shadowstrider Boots. </p><p>Self Buffed i could reach 25%  melee crits, through AA's items like the League Set and some obtainable raid drops.</p><p>With both of these i would be around 550 Strenght. All things equal is it possible to judge which is the most effective?</p>

[Glerin]

from what i've found the dimmishing return on haste / dps starts at 79 / 80%

[Jayad]

As Glerin said the dimishing returns starts around 80-90% but it's still pretty good until ~130 modified dps. At that point you are at around 110-115% real dps gain and the remainder (70 dps mod) only gets you 10-15% real dps gain. I think getting to 125 dps is worth more than 1% crit but it depends on what modifiers you have in your regular group setup. Having a dirge with their dps buff up always would put you over, for example.

[HellRaiserXX]

diminishing returns curve for haste/dps starts at 70%, thats where it breaks even.

[Kaediin]

<p>Ive been checking my DPS stat a bit more recently during recent raids and was wondering if theer was a hard cap for DPS. Currently self buffed im at 87 dps, and can get that higher with a M1 short tem buff (had a brain fart and forgotten the skill name).</p><p>In my last raid, with coercer buffs I clocked 214 dps, giving an increase in damage of 125%. Now I think ive also had a lower dps stat and still been at 125% increased damaged (i think). Has anyone else looked at this and is it possible to have higher than 125% increased damage? or is the increase capped at 125% reguardless of what you get your DPS stat to?</p>

[t0gar]

200%(125 actual) is the hard cap on dps. 69% is the point of even returns. Used M1 agi/dps buff + took off dps gear to test this. I'm not sure where you get this 80% from...

[Jayad]

200 dps mod is the max, which translates to 125% real dps. At around ~145 dps mod you are at around 115% real dps and the remaining 55 or so mod only gets you 10% more dps. Of course 10% more real dps mob is nothing to sneeze at but I'd be looking for something else at that point. 125% is the absolute max because everything modifies the 'base' dps amount, which is hard capped at 200. Anything over 200 does nothing.