Swimming skill-ups are broke!!

[Rocc]

<p>Like it says above. I thought it was situational on an alt but when I started this new one I realized I'm having all the same problems. I've been swimming for 15 minutes and have only gotten from 29 to 30 in swimming. I'm level 35 on this alt and I've been swimming above and below the water surface. This was happening yesterday also and I was going to post it but got busy.</p><p>Please fix it so low levels can skill up properly as it use to be. At this rate I'll be level 70 and have less than 100 in swimming. </p><p>/feedback has been sent.</p>

[Rijacki]

<cite>aciddragon340 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Like it says above. I thought it was situational on an alt but when I started this new one I realized I'm having all the same problems. I've been swimming for 15 minutes and have only gotten from 29 to 30 in swimming. I'm level 35 on this alt and I've been swimming above and below the water surface. This was happening yesterday also and I was going to post it but got busy.</p><p>Please fix it so low levels can skill up properly as it use to be. At this rate I'll be level 70 and have less than 100 in swimming. </p><p>/feedback has been sent.</p></blockquote> what race are you? Fae have to be fully submerged, I imagine it's the same for Arasai.

[Kaberu]

I've noticed with any race that your swimming skill goes up far faster if you are swimming completely underwater.

[Rocc]

<p>This toon I speak of is a fae but my other one is a gnome. Both of them are not getting any skill up what so ever swimming on the surface and almost none swimming under water.</p><p>Oh and why should fae (or any race for that matter) be different? Swimming is swimming!</p>

[Looker1010]

<p>I've found that most of my gals gain ONLY when swimming submerged and I play a variety of races, including human, fae, gnome, kerra, halfling, froglok, dark elf, ratonga, high elf.</p><p>I've never understood why surface swimming generates so few or no gains. Yes, swimming is most definitely borked.</p>

[tass]

ya I discovered that to. You cant swim in the top you have to go down and swim under water and ur swimming skill goes up like every 2 seconds. I played an iksar when I found that out.

[Norrsken]

You also have to turn around a bit every once in a while due to a fix for people jumping into water and hitting run lock. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Smirkey_of_Nektulos]

You think swimming is bad?  Try safe fall.  An exercise in frustration if ever there was one!

[Looker1010]

<cite>Smirkey_of_Nektulos wrote:</cite><blockquote>You think swimming is bad?  Try safe fall.  An exercise in frustration if ever there was one! </blockquote><p> Yes! Safe fall is the slowest skill up in the game. Some time ago SOE claimed they had made improvements. Tell that to my ranger...</p><p>That does not, however, change the fact that surface swimming is broken and should be fixed.</p>

[Dannan]

If your having problems with safe fall and are on the goodie team then learn to love the South Qeynos mages tower, there are 3 levels of platforms of various hights for your safefall pleasure.

[Smirkey_of_Nektulos]

I just found swimming to work -- dare I say it? -- swimmingly! I took one of my toons into EL to work on some quests and skill up my fishing to 190.  As I swam around the EL coast for only a few minutes I got about 8 skillups (enough to max out my swimming again).  I was not submerged, but merely swimming on the surface.  The toon is a Kerra and not a Fae, so I don't know if that had anything to do with it, but then aren't cats supposed to hate water?

[Morgane]

<cite>aciddragon340 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Like it says above. I thought it was situational on an alt but when I started this new one I realized I'm having all the same problems. I've been swimming for 15 minutes and have only gotten from 29 to 30 in swimming. I'm level 35 on this alt and I've been swimming above and below the water surface. This was happening yesterday also and I was going to post it but got busy.</p><p>Please fix it so low levels can skill up properly as it use to be. At this rate I'll be level 70 and have less than 100 in swimming. </p><p>/feedback has been sent.</p></blockquote>Yeah, I agree. Something is strange with the swimming. My level 34 High Elf Guardian can swim above water and skill up pretty easily. My lvl 24 Barbarian Monk, however, has been swimming her butt off and has barely improved her swimming skills at all. If it's all about swimming underwater as opposed to on top of the water, how come my Guardian does fine on top but my Monk doesn't? Strange.

[Jerr]

<p>Swimming and Safe-fall are both in a sad state right now.</p><p>We've been talking about these for a few months on the boards and since they didn't get fixed I just ignore them and don't try to skill-up until these issues are addressed.</p><p>I received plenty of suggestions--"swim backwards-underwater-rotate-change direction often....." to me if I have to do weird stuff to get a skill-up instead of "Swimming" then something is wrong.</p><p>Safe fall gives me a skill-up about every 15 jumps.  Since I'm evil the mage towers are out and I use the switchbacks in BB near the GFay zone-in. I tried a variety of heights from taking minimal damage up to dying each time-still about 15. </p><p>  I think I'd rather saw between my toes with a butter knife then have to work on safe-fall  and swimming until they are re-fixed.</p>

[Raveller]

<cite>Smirkey_of_Nektulos wrote:</cite><blockquote>You think swimming is bad?  Try safe fall.  An exercise in frustration if ever there was one! </blockquote>Yes. They increased the height that everyone can safely fall and completely borked up Safe Fall in the process. As if building Safe Fall before the change wasn't difficult enough. The reason why swimming skill does not advance while you are swimming on the surface is a matter of game mechanics. Since you are not submerged and no breathing check has to be made, the game does not consider you to be swimming, despite the animation displayed by your avatar. Since you are not actually swimming, you do not build skill.

[Morgane]

<cite>Raveller wrote:</cite><blockquote> The reason why swimming skill does not advance while you are swimming on the surface is a matter of game mechanics. Since you are not submerged and no breathing check has to be made, the game does not consider you to be swimming, despite the animation displayed by your avatar. Since you are not actually swimming, you do not build skill. </blockquote>But... but... I *do* skill up with my Guardian by swimming above water. Just tested this theory out in EL, to make sure I wasn't mistaken. My Guardian swam above water in the river (over by the docks) and skilled up three points in about ten minutes or less. My Monk, however, isn't skilling up much at ALL this way.

[Araket]

<p>I agree!  I am struggling to skill up both swimming and safe fall (although safe fall is much more difficult for me).  I would love to see the developers fix both of these!  It  should not take hours to get my swimming to level...and safe fall, please don't make me cry!</p>

[HemoragiK]

Yep, yep.  Swimming for my Fae hasn't worked since day one of EoF. With this patch, it finally works! I now have skill-up! As well, I have developed a new sport in EQ2... B.A.S.E. jumping!  If you are F or A, simply get on a mount, jump off something with altitude, and cancel your mount in enough time to gently float to the ground.  It's a rush, baby! Of course, real-life jumping is even more of a rush. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> EQ2 B.A.S.E. #000001