Work towards Melee Crit chance or get CA's first?

[Thanit]

<p>Im trying to decide which Achievement path to go down first to make life the easiest on a Solo Mystic. I eventually plan to get the full AGI line and the full Combat stuff in the EoF tree, but which path do people go down first while leveling? Its gonna take 17 AA to finally max out the Crit Chance before I can finally get my CA's, while on the other end it will take slightly less to at least get all the initial CA's.</p><p>What did some of you people choose first while leveling up? </p>

[Greggthegrmreapr]

I would get the 100% crit chance first as the CA's won't hit nearly as hard without it.

[rumblepants]

<p>For me, I got all the CAs first (I had at least 2 points in all 4) before going down the AGI line. I started working on them since level 10 so the CAs were doing better damage for me around that time. Plus saved me some extra coin by using the rares I find to make Adept3 versions of other spells.</p>

[JamesRay]

<p>I think it would be possible to justify either choice.</p><p>Having the CA's crit is a very big difference.</p><p>On the other hand, having the CA's allows you to quickly dish out your DPS without interfering with your other duties as a mystic, if you group a lot.</p><p>I would say that if you decide to go down the CA route, you first go down the right side and get the minimum amount of points as possible then focus on your crits.</p>

[Formangenavn]

<p>You didnt state your level, but I would go down CA first. Actually, thats what I did <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>I got the aoe CA around 12 lev before I got the spell counterpart. That alone helps a lot in the beginning. Since you are a mystic you will have high str. That coupled with CA's gives very nice damage. I would get end ability in CA tree as fast as possible. It helps a lot on how often you hit.</p><p>Melee crit without CA's doesnt do that much. Only helps autoattack. CA's and melee crit however, that helps a lot. Getting CA's also means you wont have to spend gold on upgrading your nukes. </p><p>I got end ability in CA line first, then maxed out melee crit and end ability in agi tree. I am now working on str tree, planing on maxing out haste and getting end ability. Only got 4 AA in str so far though, so gone take me some time. But then I am only lev 51 so time is on my side <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.</p><p>I mostly quest (so soloing mobs quite a bit) and grp once in a while. My AA's give me great dps. I am always 2nd or 3rd on grp parses, so far anyway. </p><p>One SK asked me "Why do you win the parse all the time?" I said "Shouldnt I?" he said "But you are a healer!". I grped with one Fury once. I then ran into him in SS, he stoped and said"/say The healer that hits like a tank" I then got invited to his grp (granted, it was after asking). These are things that make me laugh. I am sure this will change somewhat later in game when everyone are upgraded, but for now I am very happy with my Mystic dps.</p>

[zaun2]

I got the CAs first, never regretted it, especially the AoE one early on via exploration exp.  Melee strikes don't help DPS by that much compared to getting the CAs flying off.

[Souveraen]

Eh, I'm sorry for being newbish, but what does CA stand for? I've just earned my first 2 achievement points ever, and I'm trying to figure out how I should go about investing said points.

[rvbarton]

<p>I'm not sure if I went the right route myself.</p><p> I'm a level 45 Mystic now, with around 40 AA's.  I maxxed out my SoW, and then I maxxed out the AGI line with my crits.  I have started on the STR line, and am only 2 pts into it.  I have seen where in the EoF line, the spells there that can be used instead of the spells I have, but haven't really paid that much attention to them.  Where is the AoE one everyone is referring to?  </p><p> Sorry, I'm at work right now or I would log in and see for myself.</p>

[AziBam]

<cite>Souveraen wrote:</cite><blockquote>Eh, I'm sorry for being newbish, but what does CA stand for? I've just earned my first 2 achievement points ever, and I'm trying to figure out how I should go about investing said points.</blockquote>CA = Combat Art.  It's the melee attack equivalent to spells.  Never hurts to ask so no apology needed.  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> If I were starting a new mystic, I have no doubt in my mind that I'd take the combat line first in the EOF tree.  Never needing to buy spell upgrades for those attacks would be very nice.  My understanding is that they scale with you by each level too rather than the spell versions getting an upgrade at 14 level increments. 

[Willian]

<cite>AziBam wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Souveraen wrote:</cite><blockquote>Eh, I'm sorry for being newbish, but what does CA stand for? I've just earned my first 2 achievement points ever, and I'm trying to figure out how I should go about investing said points.</blockquote>CA = Combat Art.  It's the melee attack equivalent to spells.  Never hurts to ask so no apology needed.  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> If I were starting a new mystic, I have no doubt in my mind that I'd take the combat line first in the EOF tree.  Never needing to buy spell upgrades for those attacks would be very nice.  My understanding is that they scale with you by each level too rather than the spell versions getting an upgrade at 14 level increments.  </blockquote> So the EOF tree is the Mystic tree?  and Chilling Strike would be the 1st combat line for the mystic tree? TY in advance and sorry for the newbie questions. I will be both soloing & grouping, but i would like to solo a little more.

[Ordate]

<cite>Willian wrote:</cite><blockquote> So the EOF tree is the Mystic tree?  and Chilling Strike would be the 1st combat line for the mystic tree? TY in advance and sorry for the newbie questions. I will be both soloing & grouping, but i would like to solo a little more. </blockquote><p>That is correct, KoS was the expansion with the initial aa.  That version was the shared aa between mystic and defiler.  EoF added the class specific aa.  So yes, the EoF tree is the Mystic tree.</p><p>As to the second part chilling strike is indeed the 1st aa for the combat line in the mystic tree.  All the aa's that have a matching mystic damage spell are part of the combat line as well as the aa that adds a damage proc to our bear buff.  If you are doing calculations on where you want to spend points thats important to note as it doesnt act as part of the buff line but the combat line. </p>

[Willian]

<cite>Ordate wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Willian wrote:</cite><blockquote> So the EOF tree is the Mystic tree?  and Chilling Strike would be the 1st combat line for the mystic tree? TY in advance and sorry for the newbie questions. I will be both soloing & grouping, but i would like to solo a little more. </blockquote><p>That is correct, KoS was the expansion with the initial aa.  That version was the shared aa between mystic and defiler.  EoF added the class specific aa.  So yes, the EoF tree is the Mystic tree.</p><p>As to the second part chilling strike is indeed the 1st aa for the combat line in the mystic tree.  All the aa's that have a matching mystic damage spell are part of the combat line as well as the aa that adds a damage proc to our bear buff.  If you are doing calculations on where you want to spend points thats important to note as it doesnt act as part of the buff line but the combat line. </p></blockquote> So will chilling strike scale with me as i level? At level 17 i get Grey Wind,  it looks just like the chilling strike AA icon.

[Ordate]

<cite>Willian wrote:</cite><blockquote>So will chilling strike scale with me as i level? At level 17 i get Grey Wind,  it looks just like the chilling strike AA icon. </blockquote><p> I think you should actually have one previously to grey wind that it will be on the same timer as.  But Im not sure, I leveled my mystic back when the game was new and you started as priest? then a shaman from 10 to 20 then from then on a mystic <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  History aside...</p><p>The aa will scale with you as you level.  It is also a combat art.  What this means is that as it is melee based it uses your str instead of int to determine extra damage.  It has a shorter casting time then our spell, but has a longer recast.  You can still use either your spell or your combat art, but after you use one you have to wait on that ones recast timer to be done before you can use either again.  Getting the aa ca has the huge perk that with all 5 point stuck in your are about equal to a master 1 of equal level spell.  This is a nice damage bonus without the plat cost... huge for someone starting a new toon that can't afford to twink it to death.</p><p>Though thats long winded, did that answer question?</p>

[Willian]

<cite>Ordate wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Willian wrote:</cite><blockquote>So will chilling strike scale with me as i level? At level 17 i get Grey Wind,  it looks just like the chilling strike AA icon. </blockquote><p> I think you should actually have one previously to grey wind that it will be on the same timer as.  But Im not sure, I leveled my mystic back when the game was new and you started as priest? then a shaman from 10 to 20 then from then on a mystic <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  History aside...</p><p>The aa will scale with you as you level.  It is also a combat art.  What this means is that as it is melee based it uses your str instead of int to determine extra damage.  It has a shorter casting time then our spell, but has a longer recast.  You can still use either your spell or your combat art, but after you use one you have to wait on that ones recast timer to be done before you can use either again.  Getting the aa ca has the huge perk that with all 5 point stuck in your are about equal to a master 1 of equal level spell.  This is a nice damage bonus without the plat cost... huge for someone starting a new toon that can't afford to twink it to death.</p><p>Though thats long winded, did that answer question?</p></blockquote> Yea at level 9 its Cold Wind. Yea i think it answered my question...hehe. Should i do the AGI line in the Shaman tree to get the Melee Crit chance for pvp? Im on Nagafen server so i want to be able to at least hold my own in 1 on 1...lol

[Ordate]

<p>I'm not a pvp'er so I might not be your best refrence, but if I was building a pvp mystic I would probably put points into agility till I was 4-1.  Giving access to a weak root.  I would then do the combat arts then switch back and bring agi in the shaman tree up to crit hits.  I would also look into the shield bash skill (sta? I think) as thats a nice little knockdown and resist debuff.</p><p>A full blown pvp'er can probably give you better advice but as I know from other games control is huge in pvp and thats something we lack, I would probably go for a little bit of that quickly.</p>

[Raji]

If you're vain, CA's first. Chilling Strike is the win looks.

[Willian]

<cite>Ordate wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I'm not a pvp'er so I might not be your best refrence, but if I was building a pvp mystic I would probably put points into agility till I was 4-1.  Giving access to a weak root.  I would then do the combat arts then switch back and bring agi in the shaman tree up to crit hits.  I would also look into the shield bash skill (sta? I think) as thats a nice little knockdown and resist debuff.</p><p>A full blown pvp'er can probably give you better advice but as I know from other games control is huge in pvp and thats something we lack, I would probably go for a little bit of that quickly.</p></blockquote> Thank you for the advice <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />