Old EQ1 zones to EQ2 zone list?

[Blintok]

Been looking but so far cannot find what i am looking for Would like a list of the old world EQ1 zones that are now EQ2 zones Like, Zek is what was once Jagged Pine Forest Enchanted lands was once Misty Thicket.. etc etc and it looks to me that Sinking Sands is what has become of the Ro's and Oasis (Desert of Southern Ro, Northern Ro and Oasis) any one have a list or can help out if you know of more zones?

[nitrous]

<p>Thundering Steppes is the Karanas (sp?)</p><p>Forgot the cave name in Commonlands but belevie that is the Foreign Quarters</p>

[Forsaken1]

If I remember right Stormhold was supposed to be Befallen, but CL already had 2 dungeons so the devs renamed it and stuck it in Antonica.

[Natak]

Obvious ones; Freeport = Freeport Qeynos = Qeynos Commonlands - east and west commonlands Antonica - Most likely qeynos hills with a little of what is left of the karanas Thundering steppes is not the Karanas, on the old eq1 maps (the ones that come with the box) you can see the thundering steppes depicted, but were never accessable. Zek: Jagged pines EL: Misty Thicket Rivervale: Rivervale Runnyeye: runnyeye Fallen Gate: Some say it is the foriegn quarter, others say it is additional lore put in between the end of the era in eq1, and current time. When the new Neriak is introduced, it will be interesting to see where they place it. If it is close enough, then it could be argued that it is indeed FQ. Nektulos: Nektulos forest Lavastorm: Lavastorm Solusek eye: solusek eye Everfrost: everfrost Permafrost: Permafrost Feerott: Feerott Temple of Cazic Thule: Temple of Cazic Thule Grubb: Froglock land now (can't remember the name) but it is as close as it gets. Greater Fay, Lesser Fay, Butcherblock, Kaladim, Kelethin, New Felwithe (felwithe), Unest, steamfront,  and Klak'anon are all the same, with loping plains added between Lfay and Castle mistmore. That is not to say that those zones didn't go under revision, increasing level, etc. But they are basically named after or pertaining to eq1 zones.

[Mirander_1]

Ignoring places with the same name (those ones are obvious), here are the connections: Antonica-Qeynos Hills Thundering Steppes- Plains of Karana Fallen Gate- Neriak Foreign Quarter Zek- Jaggedpine Forest Enchanted Lands- Misty Thicket Sinking Sands/Pillars of Flame- Desert of Ro Clefts of Rujark- Rujarkian Hills (maybe) the Overrealm- Plane of Sky New Tunaria- Felwithe Klak'Anon- Ak'Anon

[Blintok]

i do verily and vehemently take issue with "Grubb: Froglock land now (can't remember the name) but it is as close as it gets" Grobb? The home of the great and noble Trolls - the city that was defiled and desicrated by that vermin race of Frogs - it was always grobb and always will be even if the dispicable frogs tried to rename it Gukta FYI - the frogs have be evicted from Grobb (in EQ1) -- There is a Grobb in EQ2? where mite that be?

[Owilliams]

<cite>Natak wrote:</cite><blockquote>Obvious ones; Freeport = Freeport Qeynos = Qeynos Commonlands - east and west commonlands Antonica - Most likely qeynos hills with a little of what is left of the karanas Thundering steppes is not the Karanas, on the old eq1 maps (the ones that come with the box) you can see the thundering steppes depicted, but were never accessable. Zek: Jagged pines EL: Misty Thicket Rivervale: Rivervale Runnyeye: runnyeye Fallen Gate: Some say it is the foriegn quarter, others say it is additional lore put in between the end of the era in eq1, and current time. When the new Neriak is introduced, it will be interesting to see where they place it. If it is close enough, then it could be argued that it is indeed FQ. Nektulos: Nektulos forest Lavastorm: Lavastorm Solusek eye: solusek eye Everfrost: everfrost Permafrost: Permafrost Feerott: Feerott Temple of Cazic Thule: Temple of Cazic Thule Grubb: Froglock land now (can't remember the name) but it is as close as it gets. Greater Fay, Lesser Fay, Butcherblock, Kaladim, Kelethin, New Felwithe (felwithe), Unest, steamfront,  and Klak'anon are all the same, with loping plains added between Lfay and Castle mistmore. That is not to say that those zones didn't go under revision, increasing level, etc. But they are basically named after or pertaining to eq1 zones. </blockquote><p>I just dug my original "989 Studios" EverQuest Map out of my orignal EQ1 box from 1999.  There is no Thundering Steppes listed as a location anywhere on that map.  If you have access to a unaltered EQ1 map, containing this location, I would be curious to see it.</p><p>As far as I have always been aware... Thundering Steppes is indeed what remains of the region that stretched across the Western and  Northern Plains of Karana and into the Southern Plains of Karana, with the dead river valley being all that remains of the river that once flowed through it. This is the river (called the Serpent River?) that once flowed along the southern edge of West and North Karana, dividing them from South and East Karana. The guard towers that stretched across the Karanas in EQ1 still exist in Thundering Steppes. As you may also notice in Thundering Steppes... everything south of Splitpaw in what was once Southern Karana has been lost into the ocean.  You may even visit the Ruins of Karana that lies just north of the Ruins of Varsoon.</p><p>I guess the aviaks packed up and left Southern Karana for Kingdom of Sky when the shattering happened... just a guess. Have wings, will travel. </p><p> I am by no means a loremaster for Norrath... but this is what I have found to be evident from maps and locations existing between the two different EverQuest games.</p><p>Happy Gaming,</p><p>--Orv</p>

[Scottishla]

<cite>Forsaken1 wrote:</cite><blockquote>If I remember right Stormhold was supposed to be Befallen, but CL already had 2 dungeons so the devs renamed it and stuck it in Antonica.</blockquote><p>  I never thought Stormhold was the old Befallen.  Folks said that, but my first thought was, "How can that be?  Befallen was off the Commonlands."  When I first found Stormhold, situated as it is, so near Thundering Steppes (which I assumed was the Karanas), I always figured Stormhold was what was left of Highhold Keep (?).   Remember that keep on top of the mountain pass between East Karana and Nektulous Forest.  Because of location, it made more sense to me.  Sure, it's not in the exact location, but maybe it slid off the mountain <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Norrsken]

<cite>Scottishlass wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Forsaken1 wrote:</cite><blockquote>If I remember right Stormhold was supposed to be Befallen, but CL already had 2 dungeons so the devs renamed it and stuck it in Antonica.</blockquote><p>  I never thought Stormhold was the old Befallen.  Folks said that, but my first thought was, "How can that be?  Befallen was off the Commonlands."  When I first found Stormhold, situated as it is, so near Thundering Steppes (which I assumed was the Karanas), I always figured Stormhold was what was left of Highhold Keep (?).   Remember that keep on top of the mountain pass between East Karana and Nektulous Forest.  Because of location, it made more sense to me.  Sure, it's not in the exact location, but maybe it slid off the mountain <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p></blockquote>One of the npcs in there actually used to refer to it as befallen. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Allisia]

Stormhold was intended to be Befallen but there was only one dungeon in Antonica, and three in the Commonlands. The actual zone files in the Everquest2 folders are still called Befallen IIRC. The dungeon is not literally Befallen, but it was originally intended to be. They move the zone connection point to Antonica instead of the Commonlands and wrote the lore to explain it. It's never really bothered me, but it does seem to really rub some people the wrong way.

[Owilliams]

<p>I think what Forsaken1 was trying to say is that the developers started out creating an EQ2 version of Befallen, and then decided not to use it as Befallen... instead they renamed it Stormhold Keep and placed it in Antonica, creating an all new dungeon.  Even that map layout of the upper areas in Stormhold match up nearly identical to old Befallen from EQ1, including the room with the well that drops you into the lower dungeon regions. I can see them not wanting to toss all the hours of map work and so recycling the zone. </p><p> It would be hard to see Stormhold as actually being what remains of EQ1 Highkeep in Highhold Pass, the layout bears no similarities or references in common.  I will happily opine that I would love to see Highkeep added someday as additional content. =)</p><p>Happy Gaming,</p><p>--Orv</p>

[theplayer0670]

the graveyard newbie area for evil players is North Freeport

[MysidiaDrakkenbane]

Befallen is not Stormhold. There's an NPC in Windstalker Village that refers to Stormhold as Stormguard.

[Norrsken]

<cite>MysidiaDrakkenbane wrote:</cite><blockquote>Befallen is not Stormhold. There's an NPC in Windstalker Village that refers to Stormhold as Stormguard. </blockquote>It is not, but it was at one time or another during develompment. the ghost, sir Valinayel or something like that, says Befallen if you listen to his voice over, but hte text say stormhold. Or if it was the other way around. They may have fixed that now though, since I havent listened to the voiceover or read the text in 1.5 year or so.

[Allisia]

Stormhold was designed by the developers to be Befallen, but was changed before release. This is a very old topic.

[cronar]

<p>That reminds me, they were going to make a small city with the paladin/cleric guild hold outs near Freeport, but that was squashed before beta.</p><p>The zone areas exist im sure, perhaps they will put them in one day.</p>

[Josgar]

<cite>Natak wrote:</cite><blockquote>Obvious ones; Freeport = Freeport Qeynos = Qeynos Commonlands - east and west commonlands Antonica - Most likely qeynos hills with a little of what is left of the karanas Thundering steppes is not the Karanas, on the old eq1 maps (the ones that come with the box) you can see the thundering steppes depicted, but were never accessable. <span style="color: #990033"><span style="color: #ff3300">aye, but Karanas still show up in TS just a tad.</span> </span> Zek: Jagged pines EL: Misty Thicket Rivervale: Rivervale Runnyeye: runnyeye Fallen Gate: Some say it is the foriegn quarter, others say it is additional lore put in between the end of the era in eq1, and current time. When the new Neriak is introduced, it will be interesting to see where they place it. If it is close enough, then it could be argued that it is indeed FQ. <span style="color: #ff3300">Neriak has a new FQ so you could say that it is the Foreign Quarters</span> Nektulos and<span style="color: #ff3300"> Dark Light Woods</span>: Nektulos forest Lavastorm: Lavastorm Solusek eye: solusek eye Everfrost: everfrost Permafrost: Permafrost Feerott: Feerott Temple of Cazic Thule: Temple of Cazic Thule Gr<span style="color: #cc3300">o</span>bb: Froglock land now (can't remember the name) but it is as close as it gets. Greater Fay, Lesser Fay, Butcherblock, Kaladim, Kelethin, New Felwithe (felwithe), Unest, steamfront,  and Klak'anon are all the same, with loping plains added between Lfay and Castle mistmore. That is not to say that those zones didn't go under revision, increasing level, etc. But they are basically named after or pertaining to eq1 zones. </blockquote>