PvP Assassins: a few questions

[orehn]

Hi!  I'm relatively new to the assassin world and loving it so far, having hit level 24 a couple days ago and choosing Assassin's Blade for M2 I've finally started to feel more like an assassin.  I do have a few questions, if you'll let me pick your brains a bit I swear I'll /hug. 1. What should my focus in gear be?  So far I'm aiming towards resists over stats but I'm beginning to wonder if I shouldn't ditch some of my previous tier's resist items in favor of some mastercrafted palladium rings and that.  My resists aren't spectacular, it's hard to pump them up at this level but I find myself wondering if pumping my str up might be a good idea.  I'm not new to PvP here by any means, so I understand the value of high resists; but I've been wondering if I'd be more effective were I to ditch some resists for strength. 2. Regarding poisons-is caustic versus hemo merely a personal choice?  So far I'm taking my AA's all in the Predator Tree's Int line and don't have the improved hemo in the EOF line yet but have been using hemo poison almost exclusively because of the int line's crit % increases-what are the pro's and con's of each?  My previous character was a swashbuckler and on that toon I always went caustic, I guess I've been using the hemo for my assassin just to be different.  Is there really more damage out of hemo with the increased crit, or am I just lying to myself? These are my two biggest questions, I'm sure you guys can come up with some good suggestions.  I'll also take any other advice you can give me so please-take me under your wing (or mine-*sic*) and help me out a bit. Thanks!

[Darkfir3]

<p>First off, get your strength as high as possible, strength=dps. The hemo vs caustic is preference, but unless its a long fight id rather have all the damage at once in pvp, which is caustic. And its not a big deal as much at lower levels, but your first aa line imo should be strngth, im specced 4 4 8 8 1</p>

[Brimestar]

Agreed with the poison thing, i went with caustic before, but now that I have EoF AAs and points in hemotoxin, I went with hemo...Cos its nice to see the poison proc off every second.

[Fonrian]

<p>Awesome, I'll love you know matter what you do.  Remember that.</p><p>/hugz</p>

[Broccoliswo]

Actually, these people are all wrong <3 Put as many points as you can in STA, because str eventually suffers from diminishing returns and you will get a lot more out os STA/HP for survivability, rather than your assassin's blade doing 20 more damage or something. For your assassin tree, I would suggest STR/STA spec as it provides the most suvivability, unless you are planning on raiding someday, in which case you would choose STR/INT. For poison, use caustic, since assassin fights typically aren't that long if you don't want them to be, and it;s better to have direct damage than damage over time in those cases. And for the love of God don't put extra points into hemotoxin, it's a big waste of AA points. <3 Queklain

[gfx]

Yeah, STR doesn't change much when you're 25 <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Brimestar]

Nice to see a Swashy in the Assn channel....For the Assn tree there really isnt STR, INT etc...Its Bleeding, Tricks, Physicality and Poisons.

[Falkur]

<cite>Brimestar wrote:</cite><blockquote>Nice to see a Swashy in the Assn channel....For the Assn tree there really isnt STR, INT etc...Its Bleeding, Tricks, Physicality and Poisons.</blockquote>before Brocoli there was this little Kitty named Queklian....

[Broccoliswo]

Dear Brimestar, Before you make comments like that, please take a little while to think as to not make yourself look less intelligent than you probably truly are. Love, QUEKLAIN (You can look up Quekkers if you like <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />) PS Sorry for my typo, I meant to say predator tree <3

[Brimestar]

If that was meant to be a "burn" I missed it...And I wasn't aware Broccoli was an Assn at one point in his life.

[Broccoliswo]

Do your server research, sir <3

[Brimestar]

Bleh, I'm an assn . . . I'm lazy. <img src="/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Broccoliswo]

Do it anyways.

[gfx]

<cite>Brimestar wrote:</cite><blockquote>Nice to see a Swashy in the Assn channel....For the Assn tree there really isnt STR, INT etc...Its Bleeding, Tricks, Physicality and Poisons.</blockquote>what an idiot ..

[Splintered]

Vinasaar@Nagafen wrote: <blockquote><cite>Brimestar wrote:</cite><blockquote>Nice to see a Swashy in the Assn channel....For the Assn tree there really isnt STR, INT etc...Its Bleeding, Tricks, Physicality and Poisons.</blockquote>what an idiot .. </blockquote> brimstar comes from venekor, so perhaps he didn't know all the nagafen players... so perhaps the only "idiot" is yourself for resorting to name calling on forums which ussually equals out to a middle school kid who thinks its cool to do so.

[orehn]

Broccolisword@Nagafen wrote: <blockquote>Actually, these people are all wrong <3 Put as many points as you can in STA, because str eventually suffers from diminishing returns and you will get a lot more out os STA/HP for survivability, rather than your assassin's blade doing 20 more damage or something. For your assassin tree, I would suggest STR/STA spec as it provides the most suvivability, unless you are planning on raiding someday, in which case you would choose STR/INT. For poison, use caustic, since assassin fights typically aren't that long if you don't want them to be, and it;s better to have direct damage than damage over time in those cases. And for the love of God don't put extra points into hemotoxin, it's a big waste of AA points. <3 Queklain </blockquote>Thanks Quek (I just can't get used to the idea of thinking of you as Broccolisword, sry)-a few more questions... Regarding the Stamina tree, that AE auto-attack seems to be a huge pain in the rear; I just think back to Hurricane and how much I hated that skill...is it as big a problem as it was as a swash?  I am planning on raiding...someday, but having already done the 'level as fast as possible' thing before I know it will be a long ways off.  I think I'll look into switching out of the Int line.  I just liked the idea of the increased crit chance, seeing all of that white text in my combat log made me feel important for some reason.  That's also the only reason I've been using hemotoxin; with my AA ability from the INT line being "if target is poisoned" and all... Also, I see the viability of the end line STR ability down the road, but with only one ability currently on a 3 min or longer recast is it worth it at this point?  I don't typically use Assassin's Blade unless I absolutely have to (see any and all fights against a druid of nominal skill), but would the increased damage and lower recast make much of a difference at this point? Perhaps I'll do a split between STR/STA for now and then start focusing on some of the Assassin Tree abilities-I think the benefit of the extended stifle alone would make it worth the change in focus. <3's!

[Brimestar]

<cite>Splintered wrote:</cite><blockquote>Vinasaar@Nagafen wrote: <blockquote><cite>Brimestar wrote:</cite><blockquote>Nice to see a Swashy in the Assn channel....For the Assn tree there really isnt STR, INT etc...Its Bleeding, Tricks, Physicality and Poisons.</blockquote>what an idiot .. </blockquote> brimstar comes from venekor, so perhaps he didn't know all the nagafen players... so perhaps the only "idiot" is yourself for resorting to name calling on forums which ussually equals out to a middle school kid who thinks its cool to do so.</blockquote><p> Thx for the support Splintered...I wasn't sure if I was going to respond to that...</p><p>and sry for the derail that happened on your thread...</p>

[gfx]

<cite>Splintered wrote:</cite><blockquote>Vinasaar@Nagafen wrote: <blockquote><cite>Brimestar wrote:</cite><blockquote>Nice to see a Swashy in the Assn channel....For the Assn tree there really isnt STR, INT etc...Its Bleeding, Tricks, Physicality and Poisons.</blockquote>what an idiot .. </blockquote> brimstar comes from venekor, so perhaps he didn't know all the nagafen players... so perhaps the only "idiot" is yourself for resorting to name calling on forums which ussually equals out to a middle school kid who thinks its cool to do so.</blockquote>He shouldn't say it unless he was 100% sure of what he was talking about then. So no, I'm not an idiot.

[Darkfir3]

<p>I gotta agree with Vinasaar there. </p><p>On a side note, I thought it was fairly funny when I flew to WW from deso, Razorthe had JUST dinged master, and I flew to check BW and the surrounding islands, when I went back to WW 5 minutes later he had already lost it, nothing against him tho, the highest title ive ever held was champion, and im a hunter now! Stop trying to oneshot clothys out of groups tbh..</p>

[Broccoliswo]

<3 vinasaar, ps my ban is over!

[gfx]

Valuk@Nagafen wrote: <blockquote><p>I gotta agree with Vinasaar there. </p><p>On a side note, I thought it was fairly funny when I flew to WW from deso, Razorthe had JUST dinged master, and I flew to check BW and the surrounding islands, when I went back to WW 5 minutes later he had already lost it, nothing against him tho, the highest title ive ever held was champion, and im a hunter now! Stop trying to oneshot clothys out of groups tbh..</p></blockquote>lol well that is funny <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> ps - Hey broc, wb <3

[murfthesurf]

ok if i am posting in the wrong place sorry up front if not here goes.  i betrayed to assasin at lvl 18, took me a good long while to get used to it.  now i have run into a couple of issues that i am having a hard time correcting, one is my position sensitive ca's, some times i get them and some times i dont any suggestions as to how to improve this? and the next is AA's i am currently pegged as blademaster and working on nightshade. after doing a bit of reading i am starting to wonder if thats the best set up, heard from some that sta line is the best for pvp. i would like to hear from someone who is actually using the sta line. i am very interested in learning a bit more about that. and any suggestions as to how to go about improving the chances of actually getting my positional ca's off would be greatly appreciated.

[seigwahrheit]

You guys realise this is the assassin channel; if you want the Swashie or Ranger channel its just a little round the corner past easy mode and straight on past fame whoring. TY for your input.

[Darkfir3]

lol