Furies and healing..

[BrainCandy]

<p>I am just posting this regarding the stigma that furies aren't good healers.  I believed it myself when I played my zerker and had a fury as a main healer.. And I was usually right, I died alot.  Now after rolling a fury I know they were just crappy players.  I am 53 now and never have a problem solo healing.  I have Back into the Fray at 52 now, with 6 second recast nonetheless.  But still lot's of times when  invited I get, "we need another healer".  Even 2-3 yellow adds I keep people alive, solo and group regen plus spamming solo heals.  </p><p>It seems alot of people roll furies thinking they are just backup healers with some DPS.. </p><p>-BC</p>

[RogueSpideyChick]

or they think theyre wizzies with heals. drives me NUTS. gotta give a lil credit though, serkers CAN be hard to heal unless u get down how the class works & be prepared for drops in health. i actually learned to heal by playin with a good friend on his serker. he'd pull entire rooms, then for fun, hit open wounds, rampage & juggernaut. lol said im teachin u to heal. i was like uh....ooookay?  i sucked before that, but to this day, im a MUCH better healer because of it. i thought it was just him, but ive found that it's the serker class that has a tendency to have dmg spikes more than others, even when theyre not usin juggernaut. so it MAY not've been necessarily the healer, but the fact that they didnt know entirely how to heal a serker.  u learn to keep ur heals up & develop quick reaction times to deal with the dmg spikes

[HBP]

Right on Arica.  Drives me nuts as well.  I get my revenge when I can top the healing parse and come 4th in the dps parse.....on the same encounter<img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Und3rt0w]

Furies can be great healers - fast fast heals - all it takes is someone who knows the class (and most effective way to layer heals) as well as someone who isn't skimming by with apprentice II or adI spells.

[Tsera]

I used adept 1 heals up until level 57.  Once I got the hang of healing in EQ2 (that took me until about level 25; I kept thinking I had EQ1 style big, slow heals), I never had a problem solo healing in a zone where mobs were yellow or under to me - not counting something totally insane like Castle Mistmoore.  I also think the problem is a lot of people come into the class thinking we're mages with heals, when I really think it's the other way around - we're healers with nukes - so they end up giving us a bad rep as far as healing goes.  The sad part is a lot of people see furies who think that of themselves, and it spreads, so they also roll furies with the same belief: that they're stuck in the secondary healing role. The best any of us can do is demonstrate our healing abilities by example.

[Tokam]

<p>My typical healing in unrest or where ever</p><p>mt: incoming stuff 5 secs</p><p>me: yay 3 mobs <casts hibernate> <casts hot> <casts energy vortex></p><p>the mobs arrive</p><p>me: <casts nova> <casts ring of flames></p><p>dps: adds!</p><p>me: oh no my heals dont work and all my power has goe away!!</p><p>I love my fury- I find that I either heal or stick up hibernate and a hot and dps for the encounter. Its kinda a one or the other event on a case by case basis.</p>

[Rattfa]

Aricajade@Najena wrote: <blockquote>or they think theyre wizzies with heals. drives me NUTS. </blockquote> Erm...a little off there. Everyone knows we're wizzies who can rez after the fight <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[TheBu]

<p>furys are a great second healer class with ther flexablity. With the right spells, speced and gear (like most classes) they can be what ever they want. but as the other person said.. you have to be focused when the the solo healer in a hard zone.. and have to fight the urg... to cast  nukes..</p>

[Faelia]

<p>Furies are great healers, but probably the easiest healer class to suck at.  Hibernate with the AA on it can be the best healing spell going, but I really think it needs the trigger % raised to 20.  Anyways, if your group is in trouble and you time a group heal to go off when hibernate does that's pretty much 2000+ healing to all your group members.  Stacked group regen and single target regen is great, and Back into the fray saves more lives than any other heal in the game, hands down :p</p><p>I personally find our salve heal to be pretty useless though, and don't even have it on my hotkeys anywhere.</p>

[Malfyr]

<cite>Faelia wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Furies are great healers, but probably the easiest healer class to suck at.  Hibernate with the AA on it can be the best healing spell going, but I really think it needs the trigger % raised to 20.  Anyways, if your group is in trouble and you time a group heal to go off when hibernate does that's pretty much 2000+ healing to all your group members.  Stacked group regen and single target regen is great, and Back into the fray saves more lives than any other heal in the game, hands down :p</p><p>I personally find our salve heal to be pretty useless though, and don't even have it on my hotkeys anywhere.</p></blockquote>Higher levels I didn't use salve line much till I started accumulating alot of +healing gear/adorns. Made a huge difference in its usefulness.

[Kirgoth]

Aricajade@Najena wrote: <blockquote>or they think theyre wizzies with heals. drives me NUTS. gotta give a lil credit though, serkers CAN be hard to heal unless u get down how the class works & be prepared for drops in health. i actually learned to heal by playin with a good friend on his serker. he'd pull entire rooms, then for fun, hit open wounds, rampage & juggernaut. lol said im teachin u to heal. i was like uh....ooookay?  i sucked before that, but to this day, im a MUCH better healer because of it. i thought it was just him, but ive found that it's the serker class that has a tendency to have dmg spikes more than others, even when theyre not usin juggernaut. so it MAY not've been necessarily the healer, but the fact that they didnt know entirely how to heal a serker.  u learn to keep ur heals up & develop quick reaction times to deal with the dmg spikes </blockquote><p> Well First off zerkers have better def and parry and such skills than SKs and Pallys, and ours are not much less than guards, and for rampage open wounds and juggernaut, Rampage, which is destruction at 70, has nothing to do with your def or health, it lasts for 30 secs and every tome you hit a mob it will do between 400 and 600 damage for 10 procs in AoE,open wounds increases dps by 36, and makes all auto attacks AoEs, once again nothing to do with defense, the only one that does is juggernaut, and i never use that tanking because it takes away 800 miti, and lowers ur avoid by 10 or more %, but it also makes all CAs do more damage.. but thats not a good tradeoff for the def lacking unless your DPSing in a group.</p><p>and as for my fury i have had little trouble solo healing zones and im lvl 41..</p>

[DarrkElf]

<p>Furies can be great healers.  Just a matter of setting up as one.</p><p>I started out solo focussed on my Fury so maxed out INT, Focus, Nukes, etc.  In spells, gear and AA.</p><p>Swtiched to being more of a hardcore healer and now do a lot of raiding keeping squishies alive.  Respecced to healing AA, maxed WIS and STA, lots of pwr regen gear.  Now I can solo heal most group zones and can keep others up in the raids.</p><p>Power conservation is where most Furies bite the dust.  Getting the timing right on spell casting to get the most use out of your pwr is the way to go.  </p>

[Und3rt0w]

<cite>DarrkElf wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Power conservation is where most Furies bite the dust.  Getting the timing right on spell casting to get the most use out of your pwr is the way to go.  </p></blockquote> Animal Form AA FTW

[RogueSpideyChick]

shards/hearts/clarity pots/manastone/tinkered manastones/vessel ftw 8-) & HUGE power pool so u have more time to manage ur power as u go & dont cast bout 20 spells then be waitin for ft to kick in. never understood the ft junkies, just go for the big power pool & u got more of a leeway when things get bad. plus have an UUUUUber chanter takin care of the entire group the whole time. we did rumbler 2 weeks ago & it was the first time i was in the off-tank group with him durin that fight.  we were like full on power when it was time for our mob to die. i <3 my seepen 8-)

[onimarox]

<p>Healing depends on 2 things your tank and your skill, Personally aside from raid content i have healed <b><u>ALL CONTENT </u></b>solo with minimal deaths. Usually deaths come from people pulling to much // adds // not paying attn. While healing can see mana intensive at times there are augments out there that boost your healing and give you mana when you heal. </p><p>As a fury we have so many heals at our disposal. 3 direct heals // 2 instant heals // 1 delayed group heal // 1 heal + group regen // 1 group direct heal // and 1 single target heal + regen. while casting every single one at the same time is going to drain you quickly look to your set up you use for healing. be smart about it.</p><p>If you have a DPS class that pulls agro every single time you pull an encounter then may time to let them die untill they figure out not to pull agro. its not bad healing on your part but more that the class needs to learn to pase themselves for the group make up. </p><p>another thing to concider if u are going to fight 70^^^ heroic mobs and your tank is wearing level 40 to 50 treasured gear then expect to die. </p>

[Nerull]

Speaking as a 70 Fury with Masters I can say that we make perfectly good healers.  Fast cast, good heal rate per spell and depth of spell options.  I am also perfectly willing to say that in highly challenging areas with a non-plate tank I'd prefer to be a backup healer.  This is not just because of the wizzy hiding in my leathers but also because I recognize, and parses agree, that other healers can put out more HP.

[artophwar]

<cite>Nerull wrote:</cite><blockquote>Speaking as a 70 Fury with Masters I can say that we make perfectly good healers.  Fast cast, good heal rate per spell and depth of spell options.  I am also perfectly willing to say that in highly challenging areas with a non-plate tank I'd prefer to be a backup healer.  This is not just because of the wizzy hiding in my leathers but also because I recognize, and parses agree, that other healers can put out more HP.</blockquote><p>I agree that in most circumstances every other healer can put out more hp's worth of heals, but the fact is that there is no other class in the game can put out as much hp as us in a short amount of time.</p>