Damage bonuses question

[Azol]

<p>OK, I do not understand something...</p><p>I have a Cloak of the Burining Prince (which says increases spell damage by 65)</p><p>Sunstrike - 782-1410 when equipped, 739-1367 when unequipped</p><p>Rending Icicles - 117-207 when equipped, 106-196 when unequipped</p><p> What is that? Where is my +65 spell damage???</p>

[JohnDoe058]

Normalized based on a 3-second cast, before haste/cast time reductions are factored.  Void where prohibited.

[daray]

This is because BoE type effects (such as the sol ro cloak) are normalized to 2.5 sec casting + 0.5s recovery (base casting times of your spells). Therefore if you have a direct damage spell with a base casting time of 2.5s, you will see the full 65 added. For dots, it is split across all the ticks of the spell. For AoEs, it is divided by the maximum number of targets it can hit (even if those targets dont exist) - this is why many aoe classes prefer straight damage procs over BoE type effects.

[JohnDoe058]

<cite>daray wrote:</cite><blockquote>This is because BoE type effects (such as the sol ro cloak) are normalized to 2.5 sec casting + 0.5s recovery </blockquote><p>3s, not 2.5.  For validation, inspect a 2s BASE (not factoring cast time reduc) cast DD spell, with, then without Sol Ro cloak.  The benift increase is 43, not 54.  Cast time reducers do not affect this, so Sunstike with 5 AA pts will yield the same bonus as without the AA points.  So ur BoL will still give the full 3s bonus, giving the illusion that spells are normalized on a 2.5s cast.  </p><p>Compare the dmg increase on Sunstrike, a 1.7s cast for you, with Incapacitate, a 2s cast...you'll see that they receive the same bonus.</p>

[TheGReddy]

So how much xtra dps would you gain off of the Sol Ro cloak? Or any BoE type effects?

[daray]

<cite>JohnDoe058 wrote:</cite><blockquote>3s, not 2.5.  For validation, inspect a 2s BASE (not factoring cast time reduc) cast DD spell, with, then without Sol Ro cloak.  The benift increase is 43, not 54.  Cast time reducers do not affect this, so Sunstike with 5 AA pts will yield the same bonus as without the AA points.  So ur BoL will still give the full 3s bonus, giving the illusion that spells are normalized on a 2.5s cast.  <p>Compare the dmg increase on Sunstrike, a 1.7s cast for you, with Incapacitate, a 2s cast...you'll see that they receive the same bonus.</p></blockquote> yah, you are right - wrote that in a hurry. 1s base = +21 2s base = +43 3s base = +65 4s base = +65

[Azol]

Oh, OK, thank you for the explanation... I understand almost nothing, but I feel better <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />